GDT: SCPO 2025 ROUND 1 GAME 1 COL vs DAL

[McMetal]

If Harley is going to play nearly 30 minutes than the Avs really need to up the tempo of the game and forecheck. Make his minutes difficult. The stars D looked fine last night despite how weak they supposedly are.

I disagree. They had serious trouble getting clean breakouts under our forechecking pressure when Harley wasn't on the ice. Harley is agile enough to evade the pressure and a good enough passer to make quick, smart decisions, but the rest of them were often a half second too slow to make the breakout pass before the Avs caught up to them. They had to either rim it up the wall in desperation or be forced to engage in another board battle, and that led to lots of shifts where the Avs cycled for a while.

That kind of pressure on their D is going to take a toll. Now DeBoer is going to have to make a choice about whether he keeps having his guys stand up in the neutral zone to prevent rush chances or give his slow defensemen more support in the D zone. Either one works for us, because rush offense is kind of our specialty anyway.

 

[dahrougem2]

I disagree. They had serious trouble getting clean breakouts under our forechecking pressure when Harley wasn't on the ice. Harley is agile enough to evade the pressure and a good enough passer to make quick, smart decisions, but the rest of them were often a half second too slow to make the breakout pass before the Avs caught up to them. They had to either rim it up the wall in desperation or be forced to engage in another board battle, and that led to lots of shifts where the Avs cycled for a while.

That kind of pressure on their D is going to take a toll. Now DeBoer is going to have to make a choice about whether he keeps having his guys stand up in the neutral zone to prevent rush chances or give his slow defensemen more support in the D zone. Either one works for us, because rush offense is kind of our specialty anyway.

Yeah, there's a reason the 4th line was so good last night. They hustled to the spots they knew Stars defensemen would be sending pucks - almost always rims around the boards - and interecepted or stopped wingers initiating battles.

They are struggling to make plays.

 

[GirardSpinorama]

EJ being able to handle the forecheck and physical play better glosses over other issues. There would be fewer opportunities for them to forecheck with Malinski out there to quickly retrieve those pucks and exit. EJ also loves that play where he grabs the puck and just tries to pin it against the boards instead of trying to move it, which just leads to trouble.

Dallas isn't that classic heavy dump and chase type of team anyways. They have a lot more finesse players now and they're actually trying more home run type of plays up the middle of the ice. They even tried it with Makar out there so it's not only against the poor skating Avs D. There may be a time and series for EJ's style of play but I don't think this is it, at least not to start.

I thought he was fine. But i also wouldnt be opposed to more Malinski out there.

 

[niwotsblessing]

Always moar Malinski. And let him run PP2.

 

[Bront]

This line is hot garbage, but I'm not sure how to change it up. You can't break up 29s line, it was absolutely dominant.

29 is dominant with anyone. He’s proven time and again to be dominant with nuke and dru. Nelson buzzed the best when he had necas as a pick carrier and lehky as a puck retriever.

 

[Arch angel]

Maybe an unpopular opinion but Mack lucked in a 3pts night. Fluke goal, assit on fluke Lehky goal and empty netter on a platter by LOC. He was not "dominant".

Yes - dirty grimy points though I would think players tend to create the ‘luck’ they get. Mack and lehky stay active and hungry - eventually get the bounce. Rants, my opinion, does very little and gets rewarded accordingly. Either way- yes, team should tighten up but stay creative.

 

[Foppa2118]

Sorry boys, but the amount of complaining on Mansons (legit) penalty shows otherwise lol. All fanbases do it, but it happens here a metric shit-tonne.

I wasn't paying close attention to the GDT during the periods, and didn't go to the main board, so I didn't see any complaints on that.

Personally I thought Manson's penalty was pretty obviously a penalty like the two trips by the Stars that they complained about. Mans just got his stick tied up with Duchene. Can't hold on that long.

The legit complaints for Avs fans should be the multiple non calls later on that DeBoer talked them out of calling with all his whining. But Avs won and were mostly in control of the game so it didn't matter.

 

[Avsfan1921]

I wasn't paying close attention to the GDT during the periods, and didn't go to the main board, so I didn't see any complaints on that.

Personally I thought Manson's penalty was pretty obviously a penalty like the two trips by the Stars that they complained about. Mans just got his stick tied up with Duchene. Can't hold on that long.

Yeah I wasn’t calling you or the other poster I quoted out specifically. But there is usually half a page of complaints or more for every missed call and the same for perceived soft calls against. And the same thing happens for every other teams GDT’s as well, it’s just fans being fans. But we are no better at it than other fan bases to be sure.

 

[Foppa2118]

Yeah I wasn’t calling you or the other poster I quoted out specifically. But there is usually half a page of complaints or more for every missed call and the same for perceived soft calls against. And the same thing happens for every other teams GDT’s as well, it’s just fans being fans. But we are no better at it than other fan bases to be sure.

Personally, I'm ok with that too. I'm sure a lot of the complaints from other team's fans are valid, generally speaking. The refs are terrible. This applies to all teams.

They just aren't usually valid when DeBoer or the Stars complain, and they weren't last night, though they didn't really complain much after the game.

During the game he did though to the refs and in his interview about the legit trips on Makar, and it got the refs to stop calling legit penalties later on.

 

[Avs_19]

This is the vibe DeBoer is giving off:

 

[Avsfan1921]

Personally, I'm ok with that too. I'm sure a lot of the complaints from other team's fans are valid, generally speaking. The refs are terrible. This applies to all teams.

They just aren't usually valid when DeBoer or the Stars complain, and they weren't last night, though they didn't really complain much after the game.

During the game he did though to the refs and in his interview about the legit trips on Makar, and it got the refs to stop calling legit penalties later on.

I do love me some deboer tears haha. When they pan to him on the bench and he looks like he wants to kick a puppy, I am a happy happy man lol. Too bad they can manipulate the refs that easy though.

 

[Foppa2118]

This is the vibe DeBoer is giving off:

100%. I don't want to say it but I have some thoughts on this I may share after the series if it goes well.

 

[TruePowerSlave]

18 hits for Dallas. That's some playoff intensity right there. I'll make a guess that no other team is going to be less physical in their series.

At least they were really dangerous on the PP and scored only once thanks to Blackwood.

 

[Foppa2118]

I was cozy in bed and wasn't on here during Lehkonen's goal in the 2nd, but I really need to comment on the broadcast trying to sell that as a "distinct kicking motion". I was just laying there flabbergasted. Dude's getting tackled and the puck happens to come back and deflect off his flailing leg into the net, but to hear Eddie and Boucher you'd think it was Pele out there.
Absolutely bonkers.

It was actually all the notorious Avs hater Eddie O. Boucher kept saying there was no way that was intentional, but Eddie kept trying to act like it might have been.

So insane. He's falling backward, his feet go up, and the puck goes sideways. How tf is that intentional you moron?

He probably still thinks it was intentional. Later on they showed the replay again and Boucher was joking about it, and they asked Eddie something and despite the light hearted vibe in the moment, he just gave a really brief 3 or 4 word answer, like he was pissed off or something. You could hear how disappointed he was in his voice.

I really don't get his hatred for the Avs. It's always been that way with him.

 

[Foppa2118]

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

I really don't get his hatred for the Avs. It's always been that way with him.

The Avs organization, in some form, had to have done something to royally piss him off.

 

[Foppa2118]

I don't have time to read through the whole thread, but does anybody have a clip of the hot mic moment from TNT? I was watching Altitude so I missed it.

What was the hot mic moment? When Val was screaming at the ref, while skating back and forth in the corner? Or something on the broadcast?

 

[dahrougem2]

What was the hot mic moment? When Val was screaming at the ref, while skating back and forth in the corner? Or something on the broadcast?

Yeah, but I don't know if the mic caught the ref or the Stars player shouting at Val because someone shouted at him "you've been flopping on the ice all f***ing game"

 

[McMetal]

What was the hot mic moment? When Val was screaming at the ref, while skating back and forth in the corner? Or something on the broadcast?

Yeah, but I don't know if the mic caught the ref or the Stars player shouting at Val because someone shouted at him "you've been flopping on the ice all f***ing game"

I just heard people elsewhere talking about it, and I always love hockey hot mics. Couldn't find a clip anywhere though.

 

[Foppa2118]

Yeah, but I don't know if the mic caught the ref or the Stars player shouting at Val because someone shouted at him "you've been flopping on the ice all f***ing game"

Yeah just watched it again, that is what was said, and I think it was the ref Kelly Sutherland. Not a player.

Watched Val get blatantly tripped right in front of him, with a stick to the feet on the rush, in a two goal game with five minutes left, and Dallas trying to come back.

Shakes his head immediately after he falls and says that back to Val.

Don't remember any flopping in that game. Val doesn't usually flop ever.

Or course that smooth brained donkey in stripes would let DeBoer get in his head and think those trips earlier were flops. They let a bunch of no brainer calls go before that Val trip too.

I can't stand these arrogant morons. Yelling at players after they f***ed up, like security guards yelling at kids for no reason.

 

[dahrougem2]

Yeah just watched it again, that is what was said, and I think it was the ref Kelly Sutherland. Not a player.

Watched Val get blatantly tripped right in front of him, with a stick to the feet on the rush, in a two goal game with five minutes left, and Dallas trying to come back.

Shakes his head immediately after he falls and says that back to Val.

Don't remember any flopping in that game. Val doesn't usually flop ever.

Or course that smooth brained donkey in stripes would let DeBoer get in his head and think those trips earlier were flops. They let a bunch of no brainer calls go before that Val trip too.

I can't stand these arrogant morons. Yelling at players after they f***ed up, like security guards yelling at kids for no reason.

It's just pathetic that in a 3-1 game a CLEAR trip - these are not subjective like a hook or interference - the stick takes out his skates but the ref knows an Avs PP will effectively end this game and he keeps his arm down.

I'd bet good money that if it was the 1st or 2nd period, the arm shoots straight up.

 

[Foppa2118]

It's just pathetic that in a 3-1 game a CLEAR trip - these are not subjective like a hook or interference - the stick takes out his skates but the ref knows an Avs PP will effectively end this game and he keeps his arm down.

I'd bet good money that if it was the 1st or 2nd period, the arm shoots straight up.

And this is what I hate about that kind of game management based on the score. All it accomplishes is letting the worse team cheat and have a chance to come back. That's not a fair way to call games.

The only game management they should be doing is even up calls for bad/missed calls. Other than that, just call the blatant trips when they have the puck. These should be automatic.

And if you're not gonna call it, don't start yelling at the player who's upset, and accuse him of flopping. Assholes.

 

[dahrougem2]

And this is what I hate about that kind of game management based on the score. All it accomplishes is lettgni the worse team cheat and have a chance to come back.

The only game management they should be doing is even up calls for bad/missed calls. Other than that, just call the blatant trips when they have the puck. These should be automatic.

And if you're not gonna all it, don't start yelling at the player who's upset. Assholes.

Oh yeah. I remember when Nate got his misconduct one game in the regular season because the ref missed a clear call and didn't have thick enough skin to take his verbal lashing.

If you are going to insert yourself into the game in this manner, you better shut the f*** up and take your verbal abuse.

 

[Foppa2118]

Oh yeah. I remember when Nate got his misconduct one game in the regular season because the ref missed a clear call and didn't have thick enough skin to take his verbal lashing.

If you are going to insert yourself into the game in this manner, you better shut the f*** up and take your verbal abuse.

Also this arrogant jackass Cody Beach (#32) a few months ago yelling at Nate, "No don't f***ing talk!" after not calling a blatant interference right in front of him.

You wonder why he yells at you it's because YOU f***ING SUCK!!!!

 

[BaconNater]

Just saw that Dallas Stars Twitter posted a tribute to Duchene doing the stupid heartbreak celebration after he scored the series winner last year, didn't watch it but I assume it's lame. I wonder if they left out that they were bounced in the next round.