Value of: Scott Laughton at the deadline

quietbruinfan

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A very solid player but has been around the league a bit. Interesting case, but since several teams need centers think his value will be surprisingly high. He would fetch a late first or a second and B prospect. He is very much a Torts style of player though.
 

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Laughton just feels like a great guy to pick up on a contender. Versatile, 100% kinda guy.

In what world is he a 50 point player?

If we're calling players with career highs of 32 points, 50 point players now.... I guess just about every player in the league is a 50 point player.

This season is the first of his entire career even pacing for 50 points... And he's barely at that pace with almost half the season left to go.


He's not even a 40 point guy yet let alone 50.

It is silly to call him a 50 point player at the moment, but it's also silly to say he's "barely" pacing for 50 when he's pacing for 52. You either are or you aren't.
 
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Maurice of Orange

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Not true?


He's missed 4 games this year, missed 15 games last year, 3 games in 2021, and 20 games in 2020. That's 42 games out of 255 possible games. 16% or basically 1 out of every 6 games, or 13 games per 82 game season.


Not exactly a healthy reputation lately.
Yes your correct I counted the 69 game covy season twice instead of the full game season last year.

Laughton is a fast skater but when he loses an edge, he turns into a crash test dummy hitting a wall.
 

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I'd definitely rather keep laughton as he's a complete player and a great example for a young team. If I were Edmonton I'd pay the price as he'd be a great fit
 

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3 more years at 3mil cap hit per year is good value for what he brings to the game.

this is not a rental deal. This is an off season deal.

it work for a team that wants a bottom 6 center who doesn’t have much in prospect pool right now but drafted some C in 22 draft and in 23. He can fit in a top 6 role if an injury occurs.

a negative ti e his real sakary is more than cap hit. It’s not much but it still is higher.
 

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Laughton has played predominantly at center this season, he’s been centering LW Kevin Hayes and RW Wade Allison for about 3-4 weeks now so you can’t really blame Lootin if his production isn’t where some folks might think Scott’s stats should be.

Scooter is also a mainstay on the Flyers penalty kill with 3 SHG in the net, his possession stats are decent as well for being on a below average team, Laughton has been getting trucked with a lot of defensive responsibilities while being that team first guy that coaches like.
That was a super zoomed out look and not a fan of the team l, stats based and information on the internet. This year he’s far out pacing his career average as far as points go. For my team he’s not what we need . We need a play driver that get points at least from how I view it
 
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Laughton's a really solid hockey player in all facets and can serve as either an average center or excellent 2-way LW. Has a little skill of his own that he's showed off a lot this season, but he's quite good at just figuring out what his linemates need to succeed and providing that.

Feels like a billion years ago, but when the Flyers were on their 10-game heater leading into the COVID shutdown, he, Konecny, and Hayes looked like the Harlem Globetrotters. They scored in bunches and were passing so well they only ever shot on open nets.

But given his utility and character--he's an excellent teammate and representative of his team--the Flyers are far more likely to put a C on his chest than trade him, I think. Were they to trade him, though, I think fans who are less familiar with his play would be screaming OVERPAY at the eventual cost.
 
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I'd certainly consider offering up Edmonton's 1st for him, if we decide the offerings on the table for blueliners isn't worth the price and if we can't get a higher end rental. A 3M cap hit for a 3C who can kill penalties is worth it for us, as long as we can send the same cap hit back. It will help Edmonton improve the PK, and hopefully will let them keep McDavid off the pk.

To Philadelphia - Edmonton's 2023 1st, 3rd round pick in 2024 (in lieu of a B prospect as your prospect pool is full, unless you want one of our recently drafted depth prospects), Jesse Pulujarvi (for cap reasons)

To Edmonton - Scott Laughton, random AHLer with expiring contract, like a Max Willman or Louis Belpedio.

Gives Edmonton even more options down the middle, but more importantly, should help with our penalty kill.

Kane - McDavid - Draisaitl
Kostin - Nuge - Hyman
Holloway - Laughton - McLeod
Janmark - Ryan - Foegele

Helps us move McDavid off the PK hopefully.
 
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You are talking minimum the Goodrow trade.
28 points in 44 games check
can play on 3rd line against other team 1st line check (I am not saying he is RoR in his prime)
pk 2 check
3m reasonable under control multiple years check
12.6% shot % maybe a little high but its not like we are talking 18% puck luck this year.



He is a 3lw on an elite team
2lw on a good team
can play 3c if injuries happen but better lw

Laughton is on a heater with Konecky who is playing the best of his career. And yes if I got the Goodrow trade I would consider. But the 2 plus b prospect? No thanks!
 

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I'd be hesitant to move a 1st, he misses a lot of games. How's Philly's D? A 2nd and POJ?
Laughton missed 4 weeks with a broken finger in 19-20 other wise pretty healthy. If he had bad knees or head that is one thing. Broker fingers are just flukes and heal.
 

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That contract is a very good deal for a competing team. Could see a TBL Coleman/Goodrow type of return.

That’s a 1st, prospect, and 3rd

I'd certainly consider offering up Edmonton's 1st for him, if we decide the offerings on the table for blueliners isn't worth the price and if we can't get a higher end rental. A 3M cap hit for a 3C who can kill penalties is worth it for us, as long as we can send the same cap hit back. It will help Edmonton improve the PK, and hopefully will let them keep McDavid off the pk.

To Philadelphia - Edmonton's 2023 1st, 3rd round pick in 2024 (in lieu of a B prospect as your prospect pool is full, unless you want one of our recently drafted depth prospects), Jesse Pulujarvi (for cap reasons)

To Edmonton - Scott Laughton, random AHLer with expiring contract, like a Max Willman or Louis Belpedio.

Gives Edmonton even more options down the middle, but more importantly, should help with our penalty kill.

Kane - McDavid - Draisaitl
Kostin - Nuge - Hyman
Holloway - Laughton - McLeod
Janmark - Ryan - Foegele

Helps us move McDavid off the PK hopefully.
I’d definitely do this as a flyers fan. Fair offer
 
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A very solid player but has been around the league a bit. Interesting case, but since several teams need centers think his value will be surprisingly high. He would fetch a late first or a second and B prospect. He is very much a Torts style of player though.
this account is clearly a bot. or a moron. the commentary is generic. and the first statement is completely untrue "this player has been around the league a bit"? The thread is about Scott Laughton...right? The temp captain of the Philly Flyers, who has never played anywhere else?
 

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Laughton missed 4 weeks with a broken finger in 19-20 other wise pretty healthy. If he had bad knees or head that is one thing. Broker fingers are just flukes and heal.
67 of 82 games last season because of head and upper body injuries?
 

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67 of 82 games last season because of head and upper body injuries?
You think 15 games on a team tanking is a lot?

Boy I want your thoughts on Drouin.

44 of 48
67 of 82
53 of 56
164 of 186 2.5 seasons
88% plays
 
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Phion Keneuf

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Should be more than what the Flames paid for Jarnkrok last year.

I’d say 2nd + B prospect for sure. Potentially a late 1st.
 

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You think 15 games on a team tanking is a lot?

Boy I want your thoughts on Drouin.

44 of 48
67 of 82
53 of 56
164 of 186 2.5 seasons
88% plays
Listen, I'm not trying to start a flame war and I'm certainly not belittling Laughton. The Pens could use a different 3C and I think Laughton might be a good fit. And I think GMRH might have interest if he unloads Blueger.
It just seems for the last 10 years or so the Pens seem to be near the top for man games missed. If a guy misses 42 games in 4 seasons, I'm curious as to why. Jason Zucker for example didn't miss a whole lot of time in Minny. As soon as he donned the Pens' sweater though, he has his own ward in the hospital.
 
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Listen, I'm not trying to start a flame war and I'm certainly not belittling Laughton. The Pens could use a different 3C and I think Laughton might be a good fit. And I think GMRH might have interest if he unloads Blueger.
It just seems for the last 10 years or so the Pens seem to be near the top for man games missed. If a guy misses 42 games in 4 seasons, I'm curious as to why. Jason Zucker for example didn't miss a whole lot of time in Minny. As soon as he donned the Pens' sweater though, he has his own ward in the hospital.
There are 2 different points here. Laughton issues as of today are not health related. Of course there are no guarantees but as of today he is ready to go. He missed 22 games in 2.5 seasons and season before was because of a broken finger. That is about as good as u r going to get with Laughton's fisety style.

Issue 2 is I don't think Laughton best position is center its left wing. If you are going to play him at center 1) Don't expect great f/o % 2) You need a winger who is a playmaker. Laughton is the player to do the dirty work in front and score because a player like Konecky or Hayes is getting the attention, Laughton does the dirty work and gets good results. Laughton is Robin on a good line not batman. But if the goal is to play Laughton at center setting up a great shot on the wing, then I would think otherwise.
 
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I think you’d get a 1st. Maybe not 2023 though.

Can’t see him being traded unless Fletcher is removed. The time to trade him was before giving him a 5 year deal. I think it was rumored to be close to a trade then but still can’t see it.

Fletcher may think this team is going to make the playoffs and be a buyer for all we know.
 
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I think you’d get a 1st. Maybe not 2023 though.

Can’t see him being traded unless Fletcher is removed. The time to trade him was before giving him a 5 year deal. I think it was rumored to be close to a trade then but still can’t see it.

Fletcher may think this team is going to make the playoffs and be a buyer for all we know.
If Flusher doesn't sell at least JVR he should be hung upside down and forced to listen to air supply 24-7
 

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Can't see him getting moved.

Great Glue guy... reasonable contract. You're not going to retain on him because he has 3 full years left at $3m.

He's in a market where Bo Horvat can likely be acquired at $2.75m, and Ryan O'Reilly at $3.25m; both who would play similar / larger roles that Laughton would be acquired to.

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there's a long list of teams that would like to add him, but none motivated enough to part with top assets, and if not getting top assets, why move him?
 
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