Confirmed with Link: Scott Laughton (50% Retained), 4th Round Pick and 6th Round Pick Traded To TOR For Nikita Grebenkin and 2027 1st Round Pick (Top-10 Protected)

[SolidSnakeUS]

Are the authentics in shambles? They also Leafs fans now?

 

[LegionOfGloom]

Nadeau and Musty and Cowan will all be in the NHL by 2025 or 2026. That’s my basis of comparison. And the Flyers pick won’t convey until 2027. It’s not like the value isn’t okay on paper. But the constant pushing back of years like time isn’t finite drives me nuts. This isn’t an indefinite rebuild. They publicly say the next 18 months are the end of the rebuild and they will start buying, while epically chunking the picks they make and kicking the can with the ones they’ve yet to make. It is a theme.

This.

There is literally no logic or consistency to what they're doing.

If you look at their roster decisions like extending Tippett, TK, and Seeler, you'd think they are trying to compete next year.

If you look at how they are managing the cap, you'd think they are trying to compete in 2027 or 2028.

If you look at what they are doing with draft picks, you'd think they are trying to compete in 2032.

 

[Kshahdoo]

Just hope they dont rush Grebenkin to NHL...

he has more upside than just a bottom sixer if things go perfectly as he showed in KHL, and for Marlies was only playing 15 mins a night and PP2 (4/21 points only on PP)...

Think ideally he needs more time to learn how to use skillset on smaller ice with less space.

Then maybe, just maybe you can squeeze a 50 point playmaking winger out of him...

I would genuinely say right now he is alongside Barkey in that 5-6 prospect group for Flyers. One of the few fwds in org who might have top six upside.

Most likely ofc just ends up a bottom six winger... but yeh, in a vacuum a prospect of his level alone is probably worth a 2nd round pick.

Laughton getting a 1st (even if in 2027) and a legit prospect... I would have taken it and ran a week ago. But yeh, prices have been crazy.

I hope they will try him with Michkov immediately. Grebenkin has good IQ and can score. Yeah, he didn't look great for Toronto, but who did? The list of players who didn't look great in Toronto and became good players elsewhere is pretty long.

 

[FlyerNutter]

They aren’t going to use these picks.

I hope anyway. A ton of late extra first rounders won’t do a lot, but I fully expect offer sheets or trades in the next 2 years.

They’ve alluded to the same, and they telegraph pretty clearly.

Questions of pro scouting acumen would arise, and we know my faith in that department - but yeah, you may as well try to trade for higher end talent - because you sure as shit aren’t drafting it with this approach.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Uh, they didn't get a "1st and a 3rd" for Laughton though. They got a "1st (in 2027) and a 3rd" for Laughton, a 4th, a 6th, and retention.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

 

[FlyguyOX]

lol Briere called the return amazing.

He really has no clue

 

[FlyguyOX]

They aren’t going to use these picks.

I hope anyway. A ton of late extra first rounders won’t do a lot, but I fully expect offer sheets or trades in the next 2 years.

They’ve alluded to the same, and they telegraph pretty clearly.

Questions of pro scouting acumen would arise, and we know my faith in that department - but yeah, you may as well try to trade for higher end talent - because you sure as shit aren’t drafting it with this approach.

Offer sheets only use your own 1st, not ones you own

 

[FlyguyOX]

Uh, they didn't get a "1st and a 3rd" for Laughton though. They got a "1st (in 2027) and a 3rd" for Laughton, a 4th, a 6th, and retention.

They really have no clue about the time value of picks. A late 1st two years out may as well be an early 3rd in value

 

[Magua]

“This trade is as tough as they come personally and professionally.”

-Coward GM

 

[Rebels57]

Im very happy with that return.

Obviously I would have preferred the 2026 1st (never expected the 2025) but its still a very valuable asset to have. It can be used in a variety of ways. Add that to Grebenkin? Im happy for a change!

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

I couldn’t hate Scott Laughton. It’s not his fault the Flyers put him on such a high pedestal

 

[DancingPanther]

I couldn’t hate Scott Laughton. It’s not his fault the Flyers put him on such a high pedestal

I don't think any of us hate Scott Laughton the player. We hate Scott Laughton the symptom

 

[DancingPanther]

“This trade is as tough as they come personally and professionally.”

-Coward GM

I mean, he has an honorary degree through Comcast. You have to respect his view of the profession.

It does have me wondering...when was the last time a GM traded his former teammate? All jokes and well-earned criticism aside.

 

[trostol]

Still not getting this outpouring of love for the guy....milquetoast as can be

 

[Taijuan Fedotov]

Still not getting this outpouring of love for the guy....milquetoast as can be

He defines the Flyers of the past decade+. A humdrum player for a humdrum franchise.

 

[FlyerNutter]

Offer sheets only use your own 1st, not ones you own

I think they use one. Jones alluded to it I thought

 

[renberg]

This organization isn’t going to turn things around until they turn things around. Keeping Dino’s around such as Torts only perpetuates the philosophy and play of a decade of losing. Only the Flyers would keep around a coach and staff that has played below.500 hockey over virtually three seasons. Led by a coach who is the most detested one in the game. How is that going to be enticing to players on other teams? A true turn around for the club will only begin when Torts & Co. are shown the door.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Oh he definitely helped define it.

 

[Magua]

Oh he definitely helped define it.

Defined the New Era? Hasn’t the New Era only been the last 2 years of mediocrity?

Giroux got 1/10th this farewell. Hell, Queen Elizabeth II might not have gotten this.

 

[mr figgles]

Great trade, The Flyers have the best front office in the NHL and have for years,

Danny? Torts? Jonesy? Flahr? Who are you?

 

[FlyerNutter]

I couldn’t hate Scott Laughton. It’s not his fault the Flyers put him on such a high pedestal

Had the best looking wife on the team.

I appreciate this post. He pissed me off bc of how they marketed him - but he does seem like a good dude. Good for him, hope he gets a few big goals this playoff.

 

[DancingPanther]

Defined the New Era? Hasn’t the New Era only been the last 2 years of mediocrity?

Giroux got 1/10th this farewell. Hell, Queen Elizabeth II might not have gotten this.

I came here to post this. Giroux got next to nothing. It's f***ing embarrassing

 

[ajgoal]

I came here to post this. Giroux got next to nothing. It's f***ing embarrassing

Giroux had the temerity to use the trade protection they'd willingly given him. Bad person.

 

[FatTugboatFlahr]

Nadeau and Musty and Cowan will all be in the NHL by 2025 or 2026. That’s my basis of comparison. And the Flyers pick won’t convey until 2027. It’s not like the value isn’t okay on paper. But the constant pushing back of years like time isn’t finite drives me nuts. This isn’t an indefinite rebuild. They publicly say the next 18 months are the end of the rebuild and they will start buying, while epically chunking the picks they make and kicking the can with the ones they’ve yet to make. It is a theme.

Maybe they won't notice until they don't have enough actual humans to suit up, and they accidentally tank.