Proposal: Savard 50% retained to Oilers for '26 1st pick?
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pth2
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Spearmint Rhino
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Nah. There’s less desperation to get something done. Price too high then you wait or look elsewhere.
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Also Dach needs to show he's not made of glass, Newhook took a step forward but probably needs to take another step, Barron needs to turn into something.
Sidenote- I hate that capfriendly is gone! I can't find out what happened to the Av's 2nd round pick that the Hab's got in the Barron trade!
The Habs seem to be wizards out of getting draft value in trades so I wouldn’t put it past the proposed deal from happening. I’d rather wait until the deadline though to see how Emberson performs and to see if Savard is healthy and playing well.
Can't be now as that would leave Mon with just Matheson as a veteran Dman and with Harris (131 games) gone, the next most games played is then Guhle with like 114, and everyone else has under 100 games. That isn't an ideal setup to develop Dmen. X, Barron, Struble, Hutson, etc.
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I think the 1st accounts for 50% retained (50% = $1.75M). If you go to TDL, that price should come down in theory but possibly go up based on market conditions. I.e. how many RHD rentals are going to be available affects the price.
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Used to trade up to get Hage. You can follow a trade tree on hockeydb and hunt these things down, but i preferred capfriendly, too.
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You guys overpaid for Laine. He's got more negative value than a 2nd round pick. $8.7MM x 2 is a lot of money on a busted player.
I think the trade should be the 2024 2nd + 3rd round picks (via St Louis) to rent Ceci back at 50% retained. If San Jose can't retain, the 3rd goes to a 3rd party team that can.
Now that would be a hilarious troll OP that's also probably very close to accurate on Ceci's value at the 2025 TDL.
Ceci to Oilers 50% retained for 2nd + 3rd round picks. That's less than y'all got for Chiarot and Tampa paid for Savard.
Ceci is arguably the best player of those three and certainly the one with the most recent playoff experience.
Oilers current defense
LHD - RHD
Ekholm - Bouchard
Nurse - Troy Stecher
Kulak - Emberson
Ceci fits right back in on Dpair 2. Savard does the same.
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I wouldn't mind bringing in Savard, but I don't like the 1st round pick price tag, even with the retention. He's really a bottom pair guy right now in an ideal situation, so I still think we would need to get an upgrade on him, and our management brought in Emberson to try him out I'm sure, and not just to try to slip him through waivers, so I'm not sure if this is the best fit.
If we're trading our 2026 1st, I'd rather aim for a guy like Dante Fabbro who might be more of a long term fit than Savard. If Emberson doesn't work out, then I'd like a Fabbro type AND a guy like Savard as depth, in an ideal world. If Emberson works out well, we don't need Savard in that scenario, so I would respectfully decline for now, with the potential to revist, at a lesser cost than a 1st, closer to the deadline.
If we're trading our 2026 1st, I'd rather aim for a guy like Dante Fabbro who might be more of a long term fit than Savard. If Emberson doesn't work out, then I'd like a Fabbro type AND a guy like Savard as depth, in an ideal world. If Emberson works out well, we don't need Savard in that scenario, so I would respectfully decline for now, with the potential to revist, at a lesser cost than a 1st, closer to the deadline.
I thought the conditional 2026 pick was related to the pick being top 12 protected, as in, its the 2025 pick unless its in the top 12, in which case it would defer to 2026. Maybe I just assumed that though. Regardless, it still makes it untradeable until the 2025 draft at minimum.
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The Squirrely Dan and Mr Blue Balls combo?
Would depend which Armia shows up, the Marian Hossa version (10 games/year) or the Marcel Hossa version (everything else)
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I know, I doubt it's at all as Habs should be in playoff race. In long term, worse thing could happen to them.
They may even want to consider extending Savard if the numbers and term work. I mean, say they do flip him for either a 1st or 2nd at the TDL should not really be in the race by then. Would everyone be experienced enough to only have Matheson as the true veteran around? Cause, the price to bring in a RHD is going to be expensive in either cap hit or term.
Never easy trying to integrate that many young D all over a couple of seasons. But, it's not at least until Feb before they should even consider it.
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If it's the Oilers choice on the 2025 or 2026 pick - I think they could still trade the 2026 pick, but that just means that they would have to give their 2025 pick to satisfy the trade where they got a late 1st in 2024.
From your lips to god's ears on Connor Murphy!
Maybe the Habs will be buyers and Oilers sellers!
If the Oilers turn out to be sellers something has gone very VERY wrong.
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If it isn’t better than someone like Savard, you’re probably better off spending less on a worse RHD improvement and using the 1st to fill whatever gaps we find in season.
I’m not too worried. The Oilers core that carries them year after year remains intact.
ElPrimeTime
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I would hate this... would rather see them try to use their first to get a player with term, similar to what Vancouver did a couple seasons ago with Hronek.
