Sarnia Sting 2024 25 Season Thread Part Iii

[StingUpdates]

I just find it weird how they bring all these kids to camp and put them on the ice from 9-4 playing 30minute games then send them home, not a lot of time to give all these kids a good look. Like they have a day for orientation and the team going over expectations etc. and a day of short games. Why don’t they make it a full weekend, have a day for meeting the coaches and staff and going over things, a day of practises and then a day for games then send the kids home Saturday night /Sunday morning.

Yah it's to bad Letang does it differently than Hatcher did. With Hatcher they did multiple games Friday and Saturday. Got to see lots of them.

But counter point is they've already scouted these kids a ton. An extra hour or two of June scrimmages won't change a lot.

Some of them have already been here working out, skating so it might've been a full week of doing stuff if they wanted too.

Also don't get why the scrimmages are on the 2nd rink in PASA. Seems unnecessary.

 

[howler2]

Yah it's to bad Letang does it differently than Hatcher did. With Hatcher they did multiple games Friday and Saturday. Got to see lots of them.

But counter point is they've already scouted these kids a ton. An extra hour or two of June scrimmages won't change a lot.

Some of them have already been here working out, skating so it might've been a full week of doing stuff if they wanted too.

Also don't get why the scrimmages are on the 2nd rink in PASA. Seems unnecessary.

I heard the ice is out on rink 1

 

[StingUpdates]

I heard the ice is out on rink 1

Ahh. I was there recently and it was still in. Maybe for high school graduations it's been removed. Makes more sense if so.

 

[StingUpdates]

Actually pretty excited to see the scrimmages Friday.

Lammens, Walos, Kamzik, Sinclair, Sewell, Grovestine, Osipenko, Romain, Jaworski, Gullstrand & Kim all guys I really wanna see.

See what kind of step Simpson, Gaughan, Chamberlain have taken too.

 

[davewheeler]

I just find it weird how they bring all these kids to camp and put them on the ice from 9-4 playing 30minute games then send them home, not a lot of time to give all these kids a good look. Like they have a day for orientation and the team going over expectations etc. and a day of short games. Why don’t they make it a full weekend, have a day for meeting the coaches and staff and going over things, a day of practises and then a day for games then send the kids home Saturday night /Sunday morning.

I agree that is dumb... playing 4/5 games in one day is stupid and no one likes doing it... It reminds me of when I use to try out for jr.B/C teams... showing up at 8 am and playing 4 games in a day putting on wet equipment not even having enough time to eat. By the 3rd game ur just counting down the minutes.... the play is sloppy and everyone is tired....Bizarre for an O team.... it should be 2 games for 2 days or something. Have the kids stay the night and come out on fresh legs. make them feel welcome. Do like a film room study - for all I know they are doing that but I doubt it.

 

[stinger94]

Boulton finding a way to get suspended in the MEMORIAL CUP for a WARMUP violation is genuinely impressive stuff.

 

[StingUpdates]

Boulton finding a way to get suspended in the MEMORIAL CUP for a WARMUP violation is genuinely impressive stuff.

I've grown to not dislike London as much as I once did. Respect them more than I once did

But the whole Boulton stuff the last 2 years has been an utter joke/embarrassment. Sawyer now Ryder aren't OHL players. They weren't even good enough players for the league they were in at 14/15/16.

They legitimately play them to go out & hurt people. Maybe Dale doesn't tell them to do that, but Ryder is lucky to play 3 shifts a game and he spends those shifts head hunting, lining guys up etc. It's nonsense & so unnecessary.

 

[StingUpdates]

Seca said Palazeese left to be closed to home. Sarnia wanted to keep him & are bummed he left.

They want more experience at trainer/equipment manager. He referenced high-performance training and nutrition program like what Gary Roberts does (Brantford recently brought him in) and that they wanna go that route.

He also said they might bring in another assistant coach .. key word another.. not new... Why won't they let go Jeffries? Seriously? We don't need 3 assistants & 4 coaches on the bench. Good grief.

“This year, we felt we underperformed,” Seca said. “We were quite comfortable with ’23-24, but ’24-25, we had a little higher expectations. Maybe we didn’t miss by much, but still that miss … is cause for review.”

Where was this during and right after the season?? When they were telling us it's all going according to plan. And why isn't the main issue (coaching) being held accountable but trainers, equipment managers, scouts are???

Full on stupidity man.

Sarnia Sting part ways with three staff members

Sarnia Sting’s personnel moves this week are part of an overall review of their hockey operations department after a disappointing season.

www.theobserver.ca

 

[OHL4Life]

Seca said Palazeese left to be closed to home. Sarnia wanted to keep him & are bummed he left.

They want more experience at trainer/equipment manager. He referenced high-performance training and nutrition program like what Gary Roberts does (Brantford recently brought him in) and that they wanna go that route.

He also said they might bring in another assistant coach .. key word another.. not new... Why won't they let go Jeffries? Seriously? We don't need 3 assistants & 4 coaches on the bench. Good grief.

“This year, we felt we underperformed,” Seca said. “We were quite comfortable with ’23-24, but ’24-25, we had a little higher expectations. Maybe we didn’t miss by much, but still that miss … is cause for review.”

Where was this during and right after the season?? When they were telling us it's all going according to plan. And why isn't the main issue (coaching) being held accountable but trainers, equipment managers, scouts are???

Full on stupidity man.

Sarnia Sting part ways with three staff members

Sarnia Sting’s personnel moves this week are part of an overall review of their hockey operations department after a disappointing season.

www.theobserver.ca

it will be interesting if mark guy keeps him once everything becomes official

 

[Flyers 1st]

Seca said Palazeese left to be closed to home. Sarnia wanted to keep him & are bummed he left.

They want more experience at trainer/equipment manager. He referenced high-performance training and nutrition program like what Gary Roberts does (Brantford recently brought him in) and that they wanna go that route.

He also said they might bring in another assistant coach .. key word another.. not new... Why won't they let go Jeffries? Seriously? We don't need 3 assistants & 4 coaches on the bench. Good grief.

“This year, we felt we underperformed,” Seca said. “We were quite comfortable with ’23-24, but ’24-25, we had a little higher expectations. Maybe we didn’t miss by much, but still that miss … is cause for review.”

Where was this during and right after the season?? When they were telling us it's all going according to plan. And why isn't the main issue (coaching) being held accountable but trainers, equipment managers, scouts are???

Full on stupidity man.

Sarnia Sting part ways with three staff members

Sarnia Sting’s personnel moves this week are part of an overall review of their hockey operations department after a disappointing season.

www.theobserver.ca

Letting the equipment guy go ? Did he not sharpen the skates correctly , dry the gloves thoroughly? The new assistant coach better be a strength and conditioning coach like Staubitz was

 

[armchaircoaches]

How’d lammmens look this weekend?

 

[StingUpdates]

it will be interesting if mark guy keeps him once everything becomes official

Man I hope so! I know Sarnia lacked talent but he very clearly is in over his head. Never seen a worse ran PP in any level of hockey. Handed him a job right out of playing & he isn't ready for it.

Wonder if that becomes official this weekend after dev camp. Since mostly everyone is in town.

 

[StingUpdates]

Letting the equipment guy go ? Did he not sharpen the skates correctly , dry the gloves thoroughly? The new assistant coach better be a strength and conditioning coach like Staubitz was

Seca said they want more experience at the position. The former guy was rather young so I get it.

How’d lammmens look this weekend?

No fans allowed today. Scrimmages are tomorrow.

 

[davewheeler]

Boulton finding a way to get suspended in the MEMORIAL CUP for a WARMUP violation is genuinely impressive stuff.

Hilarious... Hunter puts him out to cause a scuffle at the end of the game but also wanted to get off the ice fast and ends up standing in the bench door. I like Hunter but honestly sometimes I really don't. LDN has a reputation of producing some of the biggest babies in hockey.

Seca said they want more experience at the position. The former guy was rather young so I get it.

No fans allowed today. Scrimmages are tomorrow.

Letangs kid is rather young yet they kept him. Do they not want more experienced coaches for player development or are they ok with a 22 year old doing that? more experience in the equipment room but Letangs kid on the staff is A ok... They hold the equipment staff to a higher standard than the coaching staff .... Not a serious organization.

 

[StingUpdates]

Made it out to the rookie scrimmages today from 1-4. Sucks Aucoin & Jaworski were unable to play, but gave some other kids more ice.

team Konecny:

Lammens stood out. Big kid, strong, good skater & his shot is much better than I thought. He blew it past the goalie multiple times. He got into it a few times & showed that pesty/agitation style.

Chamberlain is such an elite skater I so badly hope he pieces it all together. Absolutely dusted guys a few times.

Dunn (8th) some said was a steal & I see why. Kid has a bit of everything. Was involved in everything.

Sewell is really exciting. Giant kid, but has good feet, agility. Uses his reach constantly. If he can speed up his decision making he'll be up with the big club pretty quick I think.

Ebersold impressed me for such a late pick. Seca said hes just a strong defender & he really showed that all day. Good size, good skating, good stick, good vision.


Team Stamkos:

Kamzik I really liked a lot.. Big kid, good not great skater, always going at the net & being around it. Strong on the puck as guys couldn't get it off him. His shot looked amazing. Sweet release. He & Lammens went at it 3or4 times. He wasn't gonna let the rook throw him around lol. really hope we get him signed. We don't have many like him.

Gullstrand is very skilled. Fun player. Needs to add muscle & not always try to dangle, but hes got some real upside offensively. Curios where he ends up this next season. Cant see him on the Sting so does he go USHL?

Romain is exciting too, but he looked more raw than Sewell. He kept trying to do to much & it created bad situations. He's gigantic. must be 6'6" if not more. skates well for that size. if he could refine his skills & pick his spots better he could be a good one. big if though.

Team Kyrou:

Gaughan was the best player on the ice for my money. He looked terrific. Skating looked better, he looked a bit bigger. thought he was making it a point to be a bit more physical/get into the gritty areas which was a real issue this season. Hope he carries this into the summer then camp.

Simpson was good. His shot looked really strong. Overpowered most of the kids there with his size, strength. just don't see how he isn't on the team next yr.

Denes like last yr I liked him. hes small, but man hes shifty, elusive & skilled. His shot is nasty too. He's close.

Sinclair is nasty. Kid has a sick set of hands. He was making guys look silly all afternoon. He sort of reminded me of a slower, slightly smaller Jacob Perreault. He can definitely play OHL just wonder if its here as his skillset needs to be T9 at least & do we have a spot for him?

Osipenko has grown quite a bit. He looked 6'0" at least (was same size when next to guys listed 6'0/6'1. He was the best goalie there. Always in position. Great anticipation. He's gonna push Maillet for backup IMO.

Darolfi impressed me too. biggest goalie there, but he moves well & had great rebound control.

 

[StingUpdates]

Made it out to the rookie scrimmages today from 1-4. Sucks Aucoin & Jaworski were unable to play, but gave some other kids more ice.

team Konecny:

Lammens stood out. Big kid, strong, good skater & his shot is much better than I thought. He blew it past the goalie multiple times. He got into it a few times & showed that pesty/agitation style.

Chamberlain is such an elite skater I so badly hope he pieces it all together. Absolutely dusted guys a few times.

Dunn (8th) some said was a steal & I see why. Kid has a bit of everything. Was involved in everything.

Sewell is really exciting. Giant kid, but has good feet, agility. Uses his reach constantly. If he can speed up his decision making he'll be up with the big club pretty quick I think.

Ebersold impressed me for such a late pick. Seca said hes just a strong defender & he really showed that all day. Good size, good skating, good stick, good vision.


Team Stamkos:

Kamzik I really liked a lot.. Big kid, good not great skater, always going at the net & being around it. Strong on the puck as guys couldn't get it off him. His shot looked amazing. Sweet release. Really hope we get him signed.

Gullstrand is very skilled. Fun player. Needs to add muscle & not always try to dangle, but hes got some real upside offensively. Curios where he ends up this next season. Cant see him on the Sting so does he go USHL?

Romain is exciting too, but he looked more raw than Sewell. He kept trying to do to much & it created bad situations. He's gigantic. must be 6'6" if not more. skates well for that size. if he could refine his skills & pick his spots better he could be a good one. big if though.

Team Kyrou:

Gaughan was the best player on the ice for my money. He looked terrific. Skating looked better, he looked a bit bigger. thought he was making it a point to be a bit more physical/get into the gritty areas which was a real issue this season. Hope he carries this into the summer then camp.

Simpson was good. His shot looked really strong. Overpowered most of the kids there with his size, strength. just don't see how he isn't on the team next yr.

Denes like last yr I liked him. hes small, but man hes shifty, elusive & skilled. His shot is nasty too. He's close.

Sinclair is nasty. Kid has a sick set of hands. He was making guys look silly all afternoon. He sort of reminded me of a slower, slightly smaller Jacob Perreault. He can definitely play OHL just wonder if its here as his skillset needs to be T9 at least & do we have a spot for him?

Osipenko has grown quite a bit. He looked 6'0" at least (was same size when next to guys listed 6'0/6'1. He was the best goalie there. Always in position. Great anticipation. He's gonna push Maillet for backup IMO.

Darolfi impressed me too. biggest goalie there, but he moves well & had great rebound control.

I was really disappointed in Walos. He honestly looked so out of it/disinterested. Small glimpses of the skill people talk about, but outside that he wasn't even moving his feet much. If this was an audition he got passed by a lot of guys.

Grovestine struggled mightily. He was getting torched the first 2 games. In the finals he stood on his head at least, but wasn't a great day for him.

Neusteter didnt look much improved to me. still iffy with the puck, not overly smooth on his feet. cant see him making the team with who all is back + Aucoin, Sewell, Romain.

overall was a pretty solid set of games. better than most in recent years. gotta be one of the bigger groups they've brought in, too. the americans/ncaa kids showed very well outside walos. hopefully we can get a few signed.

 

[robp1219]

I’ve been thinking abit more about Patrick Quinlan, I’ve never seen the kid play so I’m not going to knock his play, but as a 15/16 year old he had everyone talking about him and the last two years he just hasn’t put up good numbers at all and he fell lower and lower in the goalie draft rankings. Sarnia has very rarely had luck with goalies. I’m just worried this could be the American version of Gaudreau….Very similar story.

 

[StingUpdates]

I’ve been thinking abit more about Patrick Quinlan, I’ve never seen the kid play so I’m not going to knock his play, but as a 15/16 year old he had everyone talking about him and the last two years he just hasn’t put up good numbers at all and he fell lower and lower in the goalie draft rankings. Sarnia has very rarely had luck with goalies. I’m just worried this could be the American version of Gaudreau….Very similar story.

To be fair if Gaudreau was a 3rd, 4th, 5th round pick we probably wouldn't have been as hard on his play or as frustrated with it. Him being a top 7 pick & having all this hype that hes the best Ontario based goalie in years & a sure fire franchise goalie completely raised our hopes & expectations. especially when they had Thornton & traded him away to keep Gaudreau.

With Quinlan I am excited, but I'm not going in thinking he's as good as George, Leenders etc. I'm expecting him to be our clear cut starter & hoping he's an upgrade over Surzycia who we were pretty happy with the last 2 years. If he can be a solid, reliable goalie who can steal the odd game I'll gladly take that.

Crazy how asking for that seems so unlikely with Sarnia. Been so rare we've gotten consistent, good, reliable goaltending. Hopefully he can be that. Our defence *should* be pretty good so that should help.

 

[robp1219]

To be fair if Gaudreau was a 3rd, 4th, 5th round pick we probably wouldn't have been as hard on his play or as frustrated with it. Him being a top 7 pick & having all this hype that hes the best Ontario based goalie in years & a sure fire franchise goalie completely raised our hopes & expectations. especially when they had Thornton & traded him away to keep Gaudreau.

With Quinlan I am excited, but I'm not going in thinking he's as good as George, Leenders etc. I'm expecting him to be our clear cut starter & hoping he's an upgrade over Surzycia who we were pretty happy with the last 2 years. If he can be a solid, reliable goalie who can steal the odd game I'll gladly take that.

Crazy how asking for that seems so unlikely with Sarnia. Been so rare we've gotten consistent, good, reliable goaltending. Hopefully he can be that. Our defence *should* be pretty good so that should help.

Even if Gaudreau went in the second round (which he should have) we would of had very high expectations of him, scouts outside of sarnia said he was the best goalie they have seen in a few years etc. when I look back he was a pretty good 16 year old goalie, had decent numbers as a 16 year old and we were giving up 40 shots a night and a ridiculous amount of grade A chances that year, it was like he got worse as he got older, could of been in his own head or sarnia failing to help him develop. I’m just saying quinlan had very high expectations coming into his OHL draft year and he hasn’t lived up to those expectations and dropped a lot in the NHL scouting rankings as the year went on, those scouts wouldn’t just base his play on stats they would base it on his play and how he looks and would take everything into consideration like the competition and the team infront of him. All I’m saying is I hope he is better than his numbers or he takes a step because the OHL has always been a step up from the USHL it will be an even bigger step up now that more of the top Americans are coming over.

 

[StingUpdates]

Even if Gaudreau went in the second round (which he should have) we would of had very high expectations of him, scouts outside of sarnia said he was the best goalie they have seen in a few years etc. when I look back he was a pretty good 16 year old goalie, had decent numbers as a 16 year old and we were giving up 40 shots a night and a ridiculous amount of grade A chances that year, it was like he got worse as he got older, could of been in his own head or sarnia failing to help him develop. I’m just saying quinlan had very high expectations coming into his OHL draft year and he hasn’t lived up to those expectations and dropped a lot in the NHL scouting rankings as the year went on, those scouts wouldn’t just base his play on stats they would base it on his play and how he looks and would take everything into consideration like the competition and the team infront of him. All I’m saying is I hope he is better than his numbers or he takes a step because the OHL has always been a step up from the USHL it will be an even bigger step up now that more of the top Americans are coming over.

Yah Gaudreau had a great rookie year. I remember leaving that season thinking he was everything everyone projected. For my money that was the best he played for us outside that playoff series vs WSR as an 8 seed where he was sensational. Which I find absolutely insane.

His consistency issues got worse each year. His mental strength the same. Makes absolutely no sense especially when u consider the team got better every year he was here.

I honestly don't recall many guys having OHL career arcs like his. It's almost unheard of to not see at least some progression yr over yr, especially from top picks. Naturally he seems to be figuring it out now in the pros (strong rookie yr) and I'm happy for him, but he was as big a letdown I can remember honestly. Supposed to be a game breaking, future NHL star & he was just fine.

I've been looking over games & highlights of Quinlan & I can definitely say his defence left a lot to be desire lol, but he isnt a superstar goalie. Why I said I'm just hoping he's an upgrade of Surzycia. To me that would be a top 7-10 OHL goalie & I'd be happy with that.

Sure would be nice if he became one of the league's better goalies as god knows we are due, but not holding my breath.

 

[robp1219]

Yah Gaudreau had a great rookie year. I remember leaving that season thinking he was everything everyone projected. For my money that was the best he played for us outside that playoff series vs WSR as an 8 seed where he was sensational. Which I find absolutely insane.

His consistency issues got worse each year. His mental strength the same. Makes absolutely no sense especially when u consider the team got better every year he was here.

I honestly don't recall many guys having OHL career arcs like his. It's almost unheard of to not see at least some progression yr over yr, especially from top picks. Naturally he seems to be figuring it out now in the pros (strong rookie yr) and I'm happy for him, but he was as big a letdown I can remember honestly. Supposed to be a game breaking, future NHL star & he was just fine.

I've been looking over games & highlights of Quinlan & I can definitely say his defence left a lot to be desire lol, but he isnt a superstar goalie. Why I said I'm just hoping he's an upgrade of Surzycia. To me that would be a top 7-10 OHL goalie & I'd be happy with that.

Sure would be nice if he became one of the league's better goalies as god knows we are due, but not holding my breath.

Ya I agree, the sting are already talking him up like he’s the next best thing, putting abunch of pressure on a young goalie that hasn’t played a game in this league and will probably be a late round NHL pick. But who knows he could get his game figured out next year and be a star which he was projected to be which would be awesome if not hopefully he is a .900 save percentage goalie that is consistent in his play from game to game. I wouldn’t want a goalie that is hot and cold and don’t know what you are getting on a nightly basis. I’m just going to wait and see and hope for the best for him and the team.

 

[StingUpdates]

Ya I agree, the sting are already talking him up like he’s the next best thing, putting abunch of pressure on a young goalie that hasn’t played a game in this league and will probably be a late round NHL pick. But who knows he could get his game figured out next year and be a star which he was projected to be which would be awesome if not hopefully he is a .900 save percentage goalie that is consistent in his play from game to game. I wouldn’t want a goalie that is hot and cold and don’t know what you are getting on a nightly basis. I’m just going to wait and see and hope for the best for him and the team.

Yah they aren't doing him any favors lol. If you are a fan who isn't locked in/does some digging you are gonna expect this kid to be a top 3 goalie & carry us with how they've advertised him lol.

Im with yah, but i think it's fair to expect him to be a clear upgrade over Maillet so that immediately makes us better in net which is good & hopefully gives us a pretty good tandem.

 

[StingUpdates]

Looks like Sarnia is gonna be using Strathroy again as their "farm" team. Sewell signed with them yesterday.

I really like what I've heard about this kid & what I saw at rookie camp. Hopefully he logs major minutes & can work on the areas that need it. If he can he could be a really good player for us.

We'll probably see Lammens & Aucoin signed soon. Hopefully Kamzik, Sinclair, too!

 

[StingUpdates]

In the observer Joey Sinclair (free agent invite) was interviewed. He said he wants to play for Sarnia & it was the only camp invite he accepted.

He also said he's gonna push his commitment back 2-3 years if necessary.

Man, that's great to hear & I hope Sarnia is jumping at it. Obviously rookie camp doesn't mean much, but he looked terrific & is coming off an incredibly strong rookie yr in the OJHL.

With Wainwright leaving it opens a spot in the T9 & he could help fill it while also fitting our timeline perfectly as he's 17. + If Manza &/or Beamish leaves he's nice insurance to have to help replace them.

They've also already hired their new athletic therapist. Blair Hennessey. He was most recently the London nationals athletic therapist, is a triathlete & was in the Canadian armed forces. So definitely someone with a bit more experience in a few ways lol.

Sarnia Sting development camp draws NCAA-bound prospects

Joseph Sinclair hopes his first taste of the Ontario Hockey League won’t be his last.

www.theobserver.ca

 

[robp1219]

In the observer Joey Sinclair (free agent invite) was interviewed. He said he wants to play for Sarnia & it was the only camp invite he accepted.

He also said he's gonna push his commitment back 2-3 years if necessary.

Man, that's great to hear & I hope Sarnia is jumping at it. Obviously rookie camp doesn't mean much, but he looked terrific & is coming off an incredibly strong rookie yr in the OJHL.

With Wainwright leaving it opens a spot in the T9 & he could help fill it while also fitting our timeline perfectly as he's 17. + If Manza &/or Beamish leaves he's nice insurance to have to help replace them.

They've also already hired their new athletic therapist. Blair Hennessey. He was most recently the London nationals athletic therapist, is a triathlete & was in the Canadian armed forces. So definitely someone with a bit more experience in a few ways lol.

Sarnia Sting development camp draws NCAA-bound prospects

Joseph Sinclair hopes his first taste of the Ontario Hockey League won’t be his last.

www.theobserver.ca

I wonder what position we will draft at the import, have to assume defence. We are going to have a few good players to trade and we will probably have to take pics in return because we will have too many top 9 forwards.