Sarnia Sting 2024 25 Season Thread Part Iii

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What else really needs to be said here. This coaching staff and possibly Seca all need to be out of a job. Too bad for us long suffering sting fans....Maybe one day we will get it right.
I think Seca should stay around... I have been happy with his drafts... I think he may have dropped the ball with Brown over Nesbitt but other than that I think he's been decent... But his leash is getting short for sure.
 
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I think Seca should stay around... I have been happy with his drafts... I think he may have dropped the ball with Brown over Nesbitt but other than that I think he's been decent... But his leash is getting short for sure.
I say possibly because of decisions on coaching. I also don't mind some of the work he's done, but if he keeps letang and Jeffries then he Cleary has no clue.
 
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I'm hearing new ownership is coming and coming soon.... with that you gotta think the house will be cleaned.... I am unsure if the entire team will be sold or what. But I heard that this morning from a pretty good source close to the team. We will see.
 
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most people would have been ok with a 7th place finish ,just to get the young guys some playoff atmosphere but with the way the season unfolded , so many bad losses and points lost with OT's and shootouts , incomprehensible coaching decisions LET THE PURGE BEGIN. Our results with the import picks last few years, totally underwhelming. They just cause empty holes in roster
 
I'm hearing new ownership is coming and coming soon.... with that you gotta think the house will be cleaned.... I am unsure if the entire team will be sold or what. But I heard that this morning from a pretty good source close to the team. We will see.
Please be someone with high hockey knowledge that wont settle for sub par.
Interesting news, kinda surprised
 
I'm hearing new ownership is coming and coming soon.... with that you gotta think the house will be cleaned.... I am unsure if the entire team will be sold or what. But I heard that this morning from a pretty good source close to the team. We will see.
I actually hope Legwand stays on as a part owner, just so the organization has more money to work with and his ties to Michigan hockey (especially little Caesar’s). He is also a good hockey mind, seemed good at running the forward/powerplay a few years ago when he was on the bench. He has also been coaching his son’s team and they are lighting it up. I would definitely assume it’s Mark Guy as people have said before, he would be good since he was a Newport hockey agent that was an agent for elite OHL and NHL players over the years, I think he is a managing partner at finch ford now so I assume he lives in sarnia now. So he would be close by. He was an agent for Perry, stamkos, konecny, pietrangelo, Tom Wilson, horvat, subban brothers and strome brothers among a lot of others.
 
most people would have been ok with a 7th place finish ,just to get the young guys some playoff atmosphere but with the way the season unfolded , so many bad losses and points lost with OT's and shootouts , incomprehensible coaching decisions LET THE PURGE BEGIN. Our results with the import picks last few years, totally underwhelming. They just cause empty holes in roster
Karimov was a fine player all year, Letang glued his ass to the bench most of the year and he played on he 4th with grinders. He played maybe 20 games in the top 6 and rarely on the powerplay, no way he can produce offensively like that. Bodin was a dud but he was a second rounder I’m not as dissapointed by that. But last few years there have been bad selections. Vilmanis was good and limpar lantz was solid but I think he was a second rounder aswell. Had a couple duds before them like geci, Malyavin, hjorth and Berka. Definitely need to do better, and actually played them and put them in a spot for success, half the players they bring over sit on the bench or the 4th then go home. Most don’t even get a chance when they should.
 
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I think Seca should stay around... I have been happy with his drafts... I think he may have dropped the ball with Brown over Nesbitt but other than that I think he's been decent... But his leash is getting short for sure.
Hard to say if he dropped the ball, Nesbitt has a better coaching staff, and wayyyy better players around him than brown does. I think next year will tell us if brown is bust or not.
 
I actually hope Legwand stays on as a part owner, just so the organization has more money to work with and his ties to Michigan hockey (especially little Caesar’s). He is also a good hockey mind, seemed good at running the forward/powerplay a few years ago when he was on the bench. He has also been coaching his son’s team and they are lighting it up. I would definitely assume it’s Mark Guy as people have said before, he would be good since he was a Newport hockey agent that was an agent for elite OHL and NHL players over the years, I think he is a managing partner at finch ford now so I assume he lives in sarnia now. So he would be close by. He was an agent for Perry, stamkos, konecny, pietrangelo, Tom Wilson, horvat, subban brothers and strome brothers among a lot of others.
Agreed. Would like Legwand to stay although id imagine he isn't. Least Guy should be respected & have some connections, too.

Guy has been in the box with Seca for every home game for a month which is telling. I really, really hope he'll wanna bring in a new coaching staff. Like others I like Seca. I think he's made some mistakes, but his drafting has been solid, trading ive been happy with & he did a great job picking & getting Edwards over before NCAA rule change + Beamish, Obrien.

Actually got a DM after todays game from a recently former player (last 3 years) parent who said "same old, same old, unfortunately he never seems to change (on Letang) team should've been further along than they were."

Be such a mistake to run it back.
 
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Didnt realize Sarnia fell all the way to 3rd last. So we will have the 3rd best odds (20%) in the lottery which is probably Wednesday. from everything I gather there isn't 1 clear cut kid. Actually seems like there is a group of 4-5 at the top before a gap.

Pretty F heavy from what I gather so probably a F. I'll dive in once the lottery is done, but perfect world to me would be a high IQ, skilled, playmaker that could pair with Edwards as getting him a gifted passer could make for quite a special duo one day.
 
Didnt realize Sarnia fell all the way to 3rd last. So we will have the 3rd best odds (20%) in the lottery which is probably Wednesday. from everything I gather there isn't 1 clear cut kid. Actually seems like there is a group of 4-5 at the top before a gap.

Pretty F heavy from what I gather so probably a F. I'll dive in once the lottery is done, but perfect world to me would be a high IQ, skilled, playmaker that could pair with Edwards as getting him a gifted passer could make for quite a special duo one day.
Add to that , some size .
 
Didnt realize Sarnia fell all the way to 3rd last. So we will have the 3rd best odds (20%) in the lottery which is probably Wednesday. from everything I gather there isn't 1 clear cut kid. Actually seems like there is a group of 4-5 at the top before a gap.

Pretty F heavy from what I gather so probably a F. I'll dive in once the lottery is done, but perfect world to me would be a high IQ, skilled, playmaker that could pair with Edwards as getting him a gifted passer could make for quite a special duo one day.
According to @OHL4Life, there's a clear cut top 4 and they're all forwards. Max Delisle (Toronto Titans, 6'1"/181 lbs), Charlie Murata (Don Mills Flyers, 6'/177 lbs), Camryn Warren (Toronto Jr. Canadiens, 5'9"/151 lbs), and Jaakko Wycisk (Sun County Panthers, 6'/180 lbs) are the names to look out for
 
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According to @OHL4Life, there's a clear cut top 4 and they're all forwards. Max Delisle (Toronto Titans, 6'1"/181 lbs), Charlie Murata (Don Mills Flyers, 6'/177 lbs), Camryn Warren (Toronto Jr. Canadiens, 5'9"/151 lbs), and Jaakko Wycisk (Sun County Panthers, 6'/180 lbs) are the names to look out for
I seen this on Twitter it was posted at the end of January, could have changed slightly. I’d definitely want a guy that 6’0 and over. 6’2 would be nice, definitely need abit of size and speed.
 

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Max Delisle seems like the top dog, be nice to win the lottery, and get him, decent size and probably going to grow abit, I wouldn’t mind Jaakko Wycisk, his dad played pro hockey in Germany so he grew up there before moving back to Canada. He has decent size, good skill and speed. He is also playing for Leamington flyers right now, has 1 goal in 1 game. If dale Mitchel and his staff came to the sting for next season he would be familiar with Wycisk.
 
Add to that , some size .
I don't mind the size up front currently with Di Iorio, Edwards, Karimov, Manza, Luecke being 6'0" - 6'2" + Brown, Beamish, Kostuch are 5'11". How sweet would it be if Di Iorio and/or Edwards grew some more? Be that much more lethal!

Simpson is 6'3", Chamberlain 6'2" as is Gaughan if they push for spots.

Obviously not a Windsor like F unit lol, but that's an average sized group.

It would certainly be nice though to get the perfect mix of size and skill. Doesn't mean I want a sub 5'10" kid either. We saw with Voit even with elite IQ/Skill they can be neutralized when it matters.

3 of the top 4 as @SarniaStingFan listed are 6'0" to 6'1" as 15 year olds so that would be nice to have one of them! Clearly have elite skills & should grow another inch, or two.
 
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You know we've spent the last 3-4 weeks wanting to miss & being happy with losses & now that we've missed it really is a firm reminder of who we root for.

This is 3 out of 4 seasons where at seasons end we've been rooting for the team to lose. I'm not saying that as a shot as us more so at the team & myself really.. I thought they were heading in the right direction under Seca, Letang, Legwand etc, but I was very wrong.

It's a 10 team conference. They've missed 2 in a row & almost 3 out of 4. Thats embarrassing. Last year I didnt care because after 2023 a huge falloff was expected. Esp post deadline. This yr though? completely unacceptable & ppl need to be held accountable.

They added 2 elite 16 yr olds, their #1 C, #4 D from the BCHL + Karimov was a solid addition & their goaltending despite the #s was rather good most of the year + guys like Fischer, Young, Brown took big steps production wise

With all that they improved a remarkable 3 points..... 3.... That feels almost impossible with how awful last years team was with guys like Way playing top minutes.

This team I clearly overrated to begin with, but nobody can convince me they shouldn't of been a playoff team. Especially exiting January when they were playing great hockey & were substantially closer to 5th than 9th.

The coaches of this hockey team should be fired & I don't think its arguable/debatable. you cant preach accountability as an org & not hold the coaches accountable after failing these kids & the fans.

I could go on for hours & I probably will this week lol, but ill leave it at that for now.

Wish being on here was a bit more fun this year. We were doom & gloom for half the season thanks to the on ice product sadly. Still enjoy talking hockey with yall & hope u enjoy the off season! Cheers!

You know we've spent the last 3-4 weeks wanting to miss & being happy with losses & now that we've missed it really is a firm reminder of who we root for.

This is 3 out of 4 seasons where at seasons end we've been rooting for the team to lose. I'm not saying that as a shot as us more so at the team & myself really.. I thought they were heading in the right direction under Seca, Letang, Legwand etc, but I was very wrong.

It's a 10 team conference. They've missed 2 in a row & almost 3 out of 4. Thats embarrassing. Last year I didnt care because after 2023 a huge falloff was expected. Esp post deadline. This yr though? completely unacceptable & ppl need to be held accountable.

They added 2 elite 16 yr olds, their #1 C, #4 D from the BCHL + Karimov was a solid addition & their goaltending despite the #s was rather good most of the year + guys like Fischer, Young, Brown took big steps production wise

With all that they improved a remarkable 3 points..... 3.... That feels almost impossible with how awful last years team was with guys like Way playing top minutes.

This team I clearly overrated to begin with, but nobody can convince me they shouldn't of been a playoff team. Especially exiting January when they were playing great hockey & were substantially closer to 5th than 9th.

The coaches of this hockey team should be fired & I don't think its arguable/debatable. you cant preach accountability as an org & not hold the coaches accountable after failing these kids & the fans.

I could go on for hours & I probably will this week lol, but ill leave it at that for now.

Wish being on here was a bit more fun this year. We were doom & gloom for half the season thanks to the on ice product sadly. Still enjoy talking hockey with yall & hope u enjoy the off season! Cheers!
I actually predicted them finishing 10th-12th place overall.
 
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It's pretty insane just how bad the 2024-2025 Sting were in so many areas.

Goals for - 3rd last with 197 - 2.8 per game average

Goals against - 3rd last with 286 - 4.2 per game average

PP - 13.9% - Dead last - Only 37 PPG - Allowed 12 SHG

PK - 73.5% - Dead last - 70 PPGA - 1.02 per game average

Time shorthanded - 264 times - 6th most - 4 penalties a game average

Shots allowed - 2,269 - 5th most - 33.5 per game

OT/SO record - 5-13 - Dead last - most losses of any team by 3

Shootout shot % - 6-29 - 0.207% - 3rd worst - worst among teams who were in more than 5

Not gonna spend the time, but I guarantee they were bottom 5 in 4on4 goal differential.

Same with blown 3rd period leads. I'd bet money they were top 3 for most blown leads.

I'm sure there are even more stats they are at the bottom for, but that's all I can think of right now. If you don't count individual stats/performances this team had 0 redeeming qualities. Insanity.
 
Is there a cap on how many American players you can have on a roster? If not I think there should be, because next year London as it stands now should be a 5,6 team based on their roster after all their talent leaving this year. (You know they will be better because they are the knights). But with these new rules you know the knights will have American top prospects lining up to play for them more than ever. Which I think will give them even more of an advantage at bringing top American prospects over and realistically they could have 1/2 to 3/4 of top American prospects on a team if they wanted to, when majority if not all of the rest of the teams couldn’t do that. Also this is the Canadian hockey league , supposed to be developing Canadian players not Americans. I would put a cap on the amount you can have on a roster. (If there isn’t one already)
 
Is there a cap on how many American players you can have on a roster? If not I think there should be, because next year London as it stands now should be a 5,6 team based on their roster after all their talent leaving this year. (You know they will be better because they are the knights). But with these new rules you know the knights will have American top prospects lining up to play for them more than ever. Which I think will give them even more of an advantage at bringing top American prospects over and realistically they could have 1/2 to 3/4 of top American prospects on a team if they wanted to, when majority if not all of the rest of the teams couldn’t do that. Also this is the Canadian hockey league , supposed to be developing Canadian players not Americans. I would put a cap on the amount you can have on a roster. (If there isn’t one already)
to my knowledge - zero cap, considering the entire CHL has a strategic goal to capture as many american players / american markets as reasonably possible IMO.
 
finally able to log back into this stupid site.....

What a disappointing finish to the season (as everyone has already pointed out). I don't think I'll be attending games next year if Letang is still behind the bench. There was ZERO reason for this team to miss the playoffs with the player personnel we have, and we managed to flounder the opportunity.

I have to say I am now expecting even more from this team next year lol, given how disappointing this season was. Few teams in the west should be taking steps back and given our rosters development curve we are headed to what should be (in theory) some strong-ish rosters for us. Edwards and Di Iorio are both going to grow in size and strength and the teams performance will very much be tethered to their successes IMO.


Now begins the Sting fans most optimistic time of year (ie. we can get excited about our high draft pick :) ).
 
It's pretty insane just how bad the 2024-2025 Sting were in so many areas.

Goals for - 3rd last with 197 - 2.8 per game average

Goals against - 3rd last with 286 - 4.2 per game average

PP - 13.9% - Dead last - Only 37 PPG - Allowed 12 SHG

PK - 73.5% - Dead last - 70 PPGA - 1.02 per game average

Time shorthanded - 264 times - 6th most - 4 penalties a game average

Shots allowed - 2,269 - 5th most - 33.5 per game

OT/SO record - 5-13 - Dead last - most losses of any team by 3

Shootout shot % - 6-29 - 0.207% - 3rd worst - worst among teams who were in more than 5

Not gonna spend the time, but I guarantee they were bottom 5 in 4on4 goal differential.

Same with blown 3rd period leads. I'd bet money they were top 3 for most blown leads.

I'm sure there are even more stats they are at the bottom for, but that's all I can think of right now. If you don't count individual stats/performances this team had 0 redeeming qualities. Insanity.
Without first hand knowledge, the stats seem about right for a team that finished 3rd worst in the league.
 
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