Proposal: San Jose - New Jersey

HugeInTheShire

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Something around this as a basis for a trade.

(back) To New Jersey:
Fabian Zetterlund

To San Jose:
Seamus Casey

Who needs to add?
I can't see any reason for SJ to move Zetterlund for anything less than an overpayment like this, but he's also not a guy NJ should be overpaying for.

If any of Nemec, Casey or Mercer are dealt it should only be for a long-term top 6 winger. Zetterlund while good, doesn't fit that.
 

Stephen Gionta

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I can't see any reason for SJ to move Zetterlund for anything less than an overpayment like this, but he's also not a guy NJ should be overpaying for.

If any of Nemec, Casey or Mercer are dealt it should only be for a long-term top 6 winger. Zetterlund while good, doesn't fit that.

How does Zetterlund not fit the bill for a long-term top 6 winger?
 

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How does Zetterlund not fit the bill for a long-term top 6 winger?
If he's a regular in your top 6, you're probably still looking for an upgrade. He's a middle 6 winger that can fill in on the top 6 but shouldn't be a regular there.
He's a great depth piece sure, but not a piece you trade one of your top prospects for, especially if said prospect is a RHD .

If this was Filmon, Gritzyuk or Hameenaho I'd be down but SJ wouldn't do it.
 

Stephen Gionta

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Like most Devils fans I like Zetterlund and wish we still had him, but this is a pretty substantial overpayment.

I'd be more than willing to move like a 1st for him this offseason but lol at Seamus

What do you think Casey's ceiling is as a player? Don't you think it's somewhat around a defenseman version of the value of Zetterlund? - a solid 2nd liner that'll score 20-25 goals, and roughly 50 points?
 

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What do you think Casey's ceiling is as a player? Don't you think it's somewhat around a defenseman version of the value of Zetterlund? - a solid 2nd liner that'll score 20-25 goals, and roughly 50 points?
Casey has the potential to be a 60+ point 2 way defenseman, a perennial all star in the league. He should be untouchable, and we sure as hell shouldn't trade him for Zetterlund (who I like a lot).

Nemec is the guy you move if you're trading a young D.
 

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Casey has the potential to be a 60+ point 2 way defenseman, a perennial all star in the league. He should be untouchable, and we sure as hell shouldn't trade him for Zetterlund (who I like a lot).

Nemec is the guy you move if you're trading a young D.

While I think we could win with our forwards I feel like we’re one more middle or top 6 guy away. Zetterlund fits the mold so perfectly for what I want. Still feel like there had to have been a way to make the Timo deal happen without involving him. Unfortunately I think SJ probably loves him and has no interest in moving him.

When it comes to the RD, right now you re-sign Kovy and move Dougie full stop no if ands or buts about it. Casey slides into the Dougie role. Nemec is on the block. He’s not a guy I think you’d “have” to move yet and you could wait to see what happens with him but also he’s a guy that if the right deal is out there then see ya
 

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Casey has the potential to be a 60+ point 2 way defenseman, a perennial all star in the league. He should be untouchable, and we sure as hell shouldn't trade him for Zetterlund (who I like a lot).

Nemec is the guy you move if you're trading a young D.

Strongly disagree here. Love both Casey and Nemec. But I'd value Nemec higher for sure. Not significantly higher, but higher.
 

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When it comes to the RD, right now you re-sign Kovy and move Dougie full stop no if ands or buts about it. Casey slides into the Dougie role. Nemec is on the block. He’s not a guy I think you’d “have” to move yet and you could wait to see what happens with him but also he’s a guy that if the right deal is out there then see ya
Seamus Casey cannot simply "slide into the dougie role".

And to assume he could would be asking for disaster.
 
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Strongly disagree here. Love both Casey and Nemec. But I'd value Nemec higher for sure. Not significantly higher, but higher.
It'd be a worthwhile discussion if Nemec could prove his first 40 games weren't a fluke. But with reports of his mopey attitude in Utica and continued poor play, there's really no justification to take him over Casey. He's just not a good enough skater to be the offensive player he keeps trying to be.
 

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It'd be a worthwhile discussion if Nemec could prove his first 40 games weren't a fluke. But with reports of his mopey attitude in Utica and continued poor play, there's really no justification to take him over Casey. He's just not a good enough skater to be the offensive player he keeps trying to be.
First 56 games*

Also, I trust 56 games more than 0 games
 

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