Value of: Samuel Montembeault

[Jack Spider]

Both our goalies are definitely better than Monty.
The issue with both of them is a complete inability to stay healthy. I wouldn’t be surprised if one of them breaks their leg getting out of bed today.

I don't agree with that. I think Sam is a no1 there, more predictable.

 

[cyris]

I don't agree with that. I think Sam is a no1 there, more predictable.

Career save%

Stolarz 0.917
Woll 0.914
Montembeault 0.898

There really isn’t much argument to support that.

If you guys actually want to trade Monty I’m sure there would be more than a few teams interested but Toronto probably isn’t one of them and definitely not the team that would give you the best value.

 

[MoneyManny]

I guess I'm trolling. Montembeault isn't that special actually. Just something to look into and better than your starters. He can't follow the play through traffic like a Price could.

Nobody has ever said Montembault is comparable to Price lol. Monty is solid but weak mentally and breaks down easily imo. He'd give some great performances on a strong team that has his back.

 

[Jack Spider]

Career save%

Stolarz 0.917
Woll 0.914
Montembeault 0.898

There really isn’t much argument to support that.

If you guys actually want to trade Monty I’m sure there would be more than a few teams interested but Toronto probably isn’t one of them and definitely not the team that would give you the best value.

It's a goalie you picked from ufa for a million bucks. Do you want to ride your 2024-25 season on that or Monty?

Nobody has ever said Montembault is comparable to Price lol. Monty is solid but weak mentally and breaks down easily imo. He'd give some great performances on a strong team that has his back.

He is comparable to Price because he is got the starter job after him.

 

[cyris]

It's a goalie you picked from ufa for a million bucks. Do you want to ride your 2024-25 season on that or Monty?

I will happily continue on with the 2 guys with better numbers this season and better career stats.
Again Stolarz and Woll are both top 5 in save% and GAA this year. No one would trade one of them for a more expensive guy with worse numbers

 

[Sanderson]

It's a goalie you picked from ufa for a million bucks. Do you want to ride your 2024-25 season on that or Monty?

You are acting as if Montembeault has shown something in the past when that is not the case at all. He hasn't even played in a single playoff game, yet somehow he is supposed to be the "sure thing"?

If Montembeault was an experienced and successful goalie with a wealth of playoff experience you might have a point, but so far all he has shown is that he can be quite decent on a bad team, while having no experience handling the pressure of backstopping a good team (in general or in the playoffs). Under such circumstances, yes, it is much better for Toronto to run the two goalies who seem to be working well so far, and look to improve the team in areas that are not working as well.

 

[Jack Spider]

I will happily continue on with the 2 guys with better numbers this season and better career stats.
Again Stolarz and Woll are both top 5 in save% and GAA this year. No one would trade one of them for a more expensive guy with worse numbers

You are acting as if Montembeault has shown something in the past when that is not the case at all. He hasn't even played in a single playoff game, yet somehow he is supposed to be the "sure thing"?

If Montembeault was an experienced and successful goalie with a wealth of playoff experience you might have a point, but so far all he has shown is that he can be quite decent on a bad team, while having no experience handling the pressure of backstopping a good team (in general or in the playoffs). Under such circumstances, yes, it is much better for Toronto to run the two goalies who seem to be working well so far, and look to improve the team in areas that are not working as well.

It's not like I'm trying to sell you a bridge. Monty plays the pk on his toews trying to look over players, a good goalie like Price is crouched in and looks through pads.

 

[SensFactor]

At the beginning of the season,. You could have got way more...right now maybe a 3rd

 

[Fatass]

Enough of the tank nonsense, They arent going to tank.

Not intentionally?

 

[Bouboumaster]

Enough of the tank nonsense, They arent going to tank.

They totally should

 

[Xspyrit]

3.15 AAV x 2 years after that, my team can't afford an expensive backup (since Ullmark would be #1)

Starting price is a 1st + or forget it.

Show a goalie trade that returned that?

Ullmark returned Kastelic and a late 1st but Bruins had to take Fourpisalo at 3 x 3 AAV

Ullmark leads the NHL in SV% since 2019-20 with 0.921 SV% (best GSAA too I think)

Montembeault is a good goalie but he's not in the top tiers of the NHL... He's not worth what you think he's worth in a trade.

I don't agree with that. I think Sam is a no1 there, more predictable.

Crazy how underrated Stolarz is. I posted about it this week :

Stolarz is vastly underrated, that's a guy I wanted Dorion to sign last year instead of going after Fourpisalo

3rd best GSAA/60 since 2022-23 (Ullmark is 1st, Hellebuyck is 2nd)

Tied for 2nd in SV% since 2020-21 with 0.919 SV% (Ullmark 1st with 0.921 SV%)

 

[Xspyrit]

Double post

 

[General Fanager]

Career save%

Stolarz 0.917
Woll 0.914
Montembeault 0.898

There really isn’t much argument to support that.

If you guys actually want to trade Monty I’m sure there would be more than a few teams interested but Toronto probably isn’t one of them and definitely not the team that would give you the best value.

Im sure the team infront of them had nothing to do with those numbers

They totally should

No, I think they should start buying. No older guys obviously but start to use the assets for actual players to help in the next stage.

No more selling guys for picks that are 3-5 years away from helping

 

[Treb]

I would

Not because I think he's bad, on the contrary

But we must accept reality and the reality is we are at the bottom of the league for 2 more years at the very least. Might as well get picks

We know you would, but it doesn't make it sensical or even good for the future of the Habs.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

3.15 AAV x 2 years after that, my team can't afford an expensive backup (since Ullmark would be #1)



Show a goalie trade that returned that?

Ullmark returned Kastelic and a late 1st but Bruins had to take Fourpisalo at 3 x 3 AAV

Ullmark leads the NHL in SV% since 2019-20 with 0.921 SV% (best GSAA too I think)

Montembeault is a good goalie but he's not in the top tiers of the NHL... He's not worth what you think he's worth in a trade.



Crazy how underrated Stolarz is. I posted about it this week :

Stolarz is vastly underrated, that's a guy I wanted Dorion to sign last year instead of going after Fourpisalo

3rd best GSAA/60 since 2022-23 (Ullmark is 1st, Hellebuyck is 2nd)

Tied for 2nd in SV% since 2020-21 with 0.919 SV% (Ullmark 1st with 0.921 SV%)

I said GM's don't want to pay that but that is what it would take to get Habs only NHL proven goaltender. And there are 4 or 5 teams that currently have no NHL goaltenders.

 

[Xspyrit]

I said GM's don't want to pay that but that is what it would take to get Habs only NHL proven goaltender. And there are 4 or 5 teams that currently have no NHL goaltenders.

ok so what is the point to list a house worth 500K at 1.5 M$?

Nobody is going to deliberately want to overpay for Montembeault

 

[Bouboumaster]

No, I think they should start buying. No older guys obviously but start to use the assets for actual players to help in the next stage.

No more selling guys for picks that are 3-5 years away from helping

I don't think we have enough firepower to be honest
Maybe I'm wrong and next year we will kick ass, but with what I'm seeing right now, I don't have a lot of confidence

Goalies, especially on very bad (losing) clubs carry no value. Habs are terrible (again) but it’s not the goalies fault.,

Exactly.

Well, it's not Montembeault's fault at least.
He's been good, aside of the Pittsburgh game.

Primeau is f***ing terrible tho

 

[Bouboumaster]

We know you would, but it doesn't make it sensical or even good for the future of the Habs.

I think it's a solid for the Habs future
I have no confidence that we're going to take a step next year, I think we must accept reality and do what has to be done.

If we had Michkov, it would be different, we would be able to roll two lines, but we are currently at one Nick Suzuki away of being at Rock Bottom

 

[Treb]

I think it's a solid for the Habs future
I have no confidence that we're going to take a step next year, I think we must accept reality and do what has to be done.

If we had Michkov, it would be different, we would be able to roll two lines, but we are currently at one Nick Suzuki away of being at Rock Bottom

So you want us to enter a forever rebuild? Solid plan.

You won't get the value that would make it worthwhile to trade Monty.

 

[Bond]

Starting price is a 1st + or forget it.

Forget it lol

 

[Mrfenn92]

Auction for Monty

Starting price is a 2nd


Montréal POV: IDGAF, we ain't making the playoffs anytime soon, we'll play our Tank Commander Primeau up until we can play both Dobes and Fowler

We can take your suckass goalie too, if he has 2 years on his contract or less

It's an auction, it would probably ends Up with a 1st anyway

Your bidding against yourself

 

[Heffyhoof]

Montreal has been a bottom 5 team the whole season so far. Nuking the goaltending and making the team miserable for what, 1 spot higher in the top 5?

 

[pth2]

Montreal has been a bottom 5 team the whole season so far. Nuking the goaltending and making the team miserable for what, 1 spot higher in the top 5?

And the price would be high, as it becomes apparent management is fine with losing long term: no UFAs would want to come, RFAs would start to avoid extensions, ie, players with options would choose other options.