Samsonov Post Game Interview

[TheGreenTBer]

Its just appalling listening to some of these comments about Samsonov, whose definitely down & out. The anxiety hes going through etc. Yeah sure he can't handle it and yes the Leafs need a keeper but the venom that is spewed by some of these posters is too much. Its hard enough for goalie who seems to be able to handle it.
I have 2 sons who suffer from mental illness. Lots of frustration & tears over the years watching and patiently working through their development. I just shake my head. The world we live in. Growup!!!

We are neither his medical professionals nor his family/friends. No one with a soul truly wishes personal harm on him, but to be blunt it is not the fans' job to worry about a player's personal well-being before his play on the ice.

He's not doing his job. Period. Everyone hopes he gets help but he's not doing his job and it isn't the fans' responsibility to get him the help he needs.

 

[Gilmour1996]

The NHL has systems in place to help players with their problems. It's up to the player to choose his options. Playing with a problem is not an option that will help the team, or himself as a player or as a person. Time for Sammy to put away the pads for awhile and get help. Otherwise his career will be in the hands of his employer and this isn't a league that puts up with horrible performance. Soon steps will be taken by the team to rid themselves of this problem if he is unwilling to help himself by stepping down for awhile. Also for those who say it is just mental, how do you know for sure?

 

[LeafParade]

I put this on management because you have to send him down while he still thinks he can play.

Throwing him out there until he is completely broken is cowardly and in reality just a way of covering for their own incompetence.

 

[WillyC]

There’s no way he should have started the 3rd period last night… imagine his nerves during the overtime.

 

[Da Cool Rula]

We are neither his medical professionals nor his family/friends. No one with a soul truly wishes personal harm on him, but to be blunt it is not the fans' job to worry about a player's personal well-being before his play on the ice.

He's not doing his job. Period. Everyone hopes he gets help but he's not doing his job and it isn't the fans' responsibility to get him the help he needs.

Sadly not everybody cares if he gets help....

 

[Ciao]

Is the Zamboni driver available? I forgot his name, the one that had to gear up versus the Leafs during a home game, and won I believe.

David Ayres?

 

[6ix]

Because that is a terrible nickname...

He's been bad though, I think the AHL is the best place for him right now...

We also have enough space to keep him up with the team, let him work with coaches, and don't give him any games.



"Why won't players sign with Toronto?"

Terrible nickname for a terrible player!!!

Only good players should get good nicknames.

We had no issue calling Andersen Andersieve and Ander7en, and he was nowhere NEAR as bad as Sievsonov!!

 

[Confucius]

Like after watching his post game interview, Samsonov seemed to be having an anxiety attack during the interviews, just watch and listen to his breathing. I just don't know what to say, like I'm not a Dr., but it clearly bothers him being in front of the media.

Yeah I said that in the pgt, seemed like he was almost hyperventilating. The guy should just relax enjoy the 10 million he has made and ride off into the sunset.

 

[Ciao]

I wouldn't have him go near the Marlies. Growlers or bust! If he fails to report, you terminate his contract. Do all you can to encourage him to GTFO off to the KHL. I would make him the Growlers second backup goalie and noreport to art him.

1. Under the CBA, a franchise can't send a player on an NHL contract to the ECHL without the player's consent.

2. Also under the CBA, all player contracts are fully guaranteed and a franchise can't unilaterally terminate a contract without cause. Refusing to report to the ECHL is not cause. Neither is playing poorly and letting in too many goals.

It's never quite as simple as cutting bait via waivers when the team would still be on the hook for a cap charge. Keefe essentially throwing his goalie under the proverbial bus doesn't seem to work in the best interests of the team either unless Treliving already does in fact have a plan to deal with this situation.

The cap charge is the least of the considerations at play. This is a one-year contract that the Leafs can swallow if need be.

The fundamental issues are the effects on the player and the team.

At minimum, the team needs to keep the player out of games, whether that's on the bench, in the press box, or in the minors.

If the player needs to play, then it can't be with the Leafs while he is so obviously broken and incapable. Putting him back into action at the NHL level until something changes is just not viable. It doesn't help Samsonov, and it sure doesn't help the Leafs.

Maybe there's something going on that's outside our knowledge, and a leave of absence with the Player Assistance Program could help. If not, leaving him stapled to the bench and the Leafs without a functional backup doesn't work. Carrying three goaltenders and putting him in the press box for the duration of his contract isn't at all a good solution for the player. If he is able to play his way out of this, that has to happen in the AHL.

Or with another NHL franchise if he should get claimed on waivers. Stranger things have happened. That's what waivers are for.

 

[rumman]

Marner saying ”that team has a lot of skill” has got to be the funniest quote I’ve heard in a while, Columbus is crippled by injuries and Marner still thinks they’re skilled……..

 

[centipede2233]

There should have been red flags when samsonov’s fellow countryman Ovechkin endorsed capitals front office to just let him walk. But being dubie has absolutely zero foresight and especially when it comes to goalies, dubies gonna dubie

 

[usernamezrhardtodo]

There should have been red flags when samsonov’s fellow countryman Ovechkin endorsed capitals front office to just let him walk. But being dubie has absolutely zero foresight and especially when it comes to goalies, dubies gonna dubie

I just thank God that Dubas didn't stay and sign him to a "deal" of $4.5 x 3 or 4yrs. I keep thinking that he would have simply because it looked like he was going to be good going forward. The difference this season to last IMO is that last season he was not letting very many weak goals that went through him...the goals he let in were mostly because he was out of position to stop a rebound.

 

[Buds17]

1. Under the CBA, a franchise can't send a player on an NHL contract to the ECHL without the player's consent.

2. Also under the CBA, all player contracts are fully guaranteed and a franchise can't unilaterally terminate a contract without cause. Refusing to report to the ECHL is not cause. Neither is playing poorly and letting in too many goals.

The cap charge is the least of the considerations at play. This is a one-year contract that the Leafs can swallow if need be.

The fundamental issues are the effects on the player and the team.

At minimum, the team needs to keep the player out of games, whether that's on the bench, in the press box, or in the minors.

If the player needs to play, then it can't be with the Leafs while he is so obviously broken and incapable. Putting him back into action at the NHL level until something changes is just not viable. It doesn't help Samsonov, and it sure doesn't help the Leafs.

Maybe there's something going on that's outside our knowledge, and a leave of absence with the Player Assistance Program could help. If not, leaving him stapled to the bench and the Leafs without a functional backup doesn't work. Carrying three goaltenders and putting him in the press box for the duration of his contract isn't at all a good solution for the player. If he is able to play his way out of this, that has to happen in the AHL.

Or with another NHL franchise if he should get claimed on waivers. Stranger things have happened. That's what waivers are for.

The Leafs will still need a goalie to share the workload with Jones until Woll is ready to return and having Samsonov in the AHL counting against the cap might cut into the amount of cap available to allot to any other team need that might arise in the near future. I'm not unequivocally suggesting that Samsonov will continue to be in the team's plans moving forward, merely just that he is until he isn't (which is why I wasn't a big fan of Keefe's commentary on the matter).

 

[stickty111]

Have to feel for him.

 

[Stephen]

This guy is a joke. Don’t know why people still call him Sammy. Should be Sievsonov

He’s more of a Shammy to me.

 

[Niagara Bill]

The ģuy is sick, I'll. He needs to be treated by pros in the medical community not hockey coaches, gms or fans.
He is harming the team and not helping himself.
If he is not ill, then he is being blackmailed or threatened by Russian gamblers.
Either way, he is done playing for a long time.

 

[rumman]

Have to feel for him.

Maybe Pittsburgh will take him………

 

[Darcy Tucker]

Through a minimum 15 games Samsonov has the 3rd worst save percentage (.861) in the last 20 years. He has been historically bad losing us games we should have won.

I really don't care about his anxiety or mental woes. That's part of the package of being a professional. You're paid to deal with it and have a basic level of performance. He can't cut it right now. He needs to be treated like Cambell and sent down.

 

[Ciao]

The Leafs will still need a goalie to share the workload with Jones until Woll is ready to return and having Samsonov in the AHL counting against the cap might cut into the amount of cap available to allot to that need. I'm not unequivocally suggesting that Samsonov will continue to be in the team's plans moving forward, merely just that he is until he isn't (which is why I wasn't a big fan of Keefe's commentary on the matter).

Playing him is like running your engine without oil, even if you have no other form of transportation.

This dude is a wreck.

 

[Buds17]

Playing him is like running your engine without oil, even if you have no other form of transportation.

This dude is a wreck.

While I don't necessarily disagree, I also can't comment on another option until that option presents itself (via a call-up from within the organization or an acquisition outside of it) to work in tandem with Jones until Woll is deemed ready to return.

 

[JKG33]

Its just appalling listening to some of these comments about Samsonov, whose definitely down & out. The anxiety hes going through etc. Yeah sure he can't handle it and yes the Leafs need a keeper but the venom that is spewed by some of these posters is too much. Its hard enough for goalie who seems to be able to handle it.
I have 2 sons who suffer from mental illness. Lots of frustration & tears over the years watching and patiently working through their development. I just shake my head. The world we live in. Growup!!!

Keep in mind this is also a guy who missed the start of a season in Washington after being injured recklessly crashing his ATV. And another time broke team rules for partying.

I have 0 sympathy for him.

 

[rumman]

While I don't necessarily disagree, I also can't comment on another option until that option presents itself (via a call-up from within the organization or an acquisition outside of it) to work in tandem with Jones until Woll is deemed fit to return.

Run with Jones until Woll returns, get the zamboni driver to ride the bench………

 

[Confucius]

This guy is a joke. Don’t know why people still call him Sammy. Should be Sievsonov

No need to be angry about it, jeez. He did his best, he failed.

 

[Stephen]

Marner saying ”that team has a lot of skill” has got to be the funniest quote I’ve heard in a while, Columbus is crippled by injuries and Marner still thinks they’re skilled……..

CBJ are really skilled, but like a collection of misfit toys and pre-prime prospects at various levels of development.

When I look at their medium lineup forwards that can skate and make a play, Sillinger, Chinahkov, Voronkov, Marchenko, Texier and Bemstrom are all pretty good athletes who can all skate well and handle the puck and play with pace. Marchenko seems like he's got added scoring punch. Fantilli and Johnson are next generation superstar quality. Gaudreau is probably last generation superstar. Laine has big time scoring capability. Justin Danforth looks like a surprising moneypuck player with the kind of snot Treliving was looking for.

And their blueline of Werenski (not playing last night), Provorov, Severson and Jiricek (rookie) are athletically superior to anything the Leafs ice.

It just doesn't work.

 

[Buds17]

Run with Jones until Woll returns, get the zamboni driver to ride the bench………

Tough to do under normal circumstances (even tougher to do with a few back-to-back scenarios occurring over the course of the next month).