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Player Discussion Sam Colangelo

I guess it depends on one's vision of what a 4th line should look like...I would want one that is big, physical, defensively tough, and relentless on the forecheck. Scoring is a bonus but not what I'm looking for. I just don't think Colangelo is that type of player...as I've said before, he's a scorer with a scorer's mentality. Why try to make a 4th liner out of him?
 
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JAHV said:
I want a 4th line that's better than the other team's 4th line at scoring goals. Colangelo seems like he can help with that.
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I bet that's what Cronin was thinking with putting the Gulls best goal scorer when he was brought up to be on the fourth line. Turns out Colangelo only scores with offensively talented players.

Nesterenko, otoh, is a player that fits the 4th line role and can chip in goals.

Nesterenko: 20 games, 4g + 2a
Lundy: 79 games, 4g + 11a
Harkins: 62 games, 2g + 4a
Johnston: 43 games, 1g + 3a
 
I think he has way higher upside than a 4th liner and he's already shown it. He can be the glue guy on a skill line. Forechecking, going to the net, screening the goalie with enough hands to tip pucks in. Good shot. Goal scorer. Good size.
 
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Not sure what more he can do to prove he deserves a shot in the top 9 that doesn't require more ice time in the NHL.
PPG in the AHL with over .5 goals per game.
10 goals in 35 games in the NHL playing only 12 minutes a game.

Next year is his age 24/D+6. IDK what else you want out of him that would make you think he is ready.
 
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The ducks are in a bit of a pickle with him, which is a good thing organizationally.

I agree with the above that there’s not much more he could realistically do to earn a spot in the top 9.

I just don’t know how throwing him on the 4th line with Washe, Gaucher, etc helps him develop the goal scoring we need him to develop.

But at the same time, we should be looking for scoring help outside of the org. Tough one

It once again leads me back to my thesis that Zegras or Strome has to go
 
I'd be okay with Sam on the 4th line if we add depth to the top of the lineup, so that he can still play with some talent on his line. And I'd want him to get some PP time. I don't want him with Leason and Lundy, I'd rather he overcook in SD and wait for an injury to fill in higher in the lineup in that case.
 
Colangelo looks like a bottom 6 player to me, which I think is fantastic. The Ducks need good scorers in their bottom 6. But he's not better than Terry. And we've been talking already since the season ended about upgrading the top 6, because if Colangelo is your 2nd best RW, that's probably not great. I'm happy to be proven wrong on that, but I don't think it's a wise strategy to rely on. Eventually Sennecke projects to surpass him as well.

For me, putting him on the 4th line is not an insult to Colangelo. It's a sign that we're finally ready to have an actually good 4th line.
 
JAHV said:
Colangelo looks like a bottom 6 player to me, which I think is fantastic. The Ducks need good scorers in their bottom 6. But he's not better than Terry. And we've been talking already since the season ended about upgrading the top 6, because if Colangelo is your 2nd best RW, that's probably not great. I'm happy to be proven wrong on that, but I don't think it's a wise strategy to rely on. Eventually Sennecke projects to surpass him as well.

For me, putting him on the 4th line is not an insult to Colangelo. It's a sign that we're finally ready to have an actually good 4th line.
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He'd also be a really good depth player because he could fill in on higher lines when injuries strike.
 
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