Proposal: Sam Bennett (CGY) for David Pastrnak (BOS)

[Aceboogie]

I really, really can't wait to call Puljujarvi a bust next offseason

You can do that after he has 3 bad years in the nhl and shows no signs of life

 

[Mobiandi]

You can do that after he has 3 bad years in the nhl and shows no signs of life

Bennett's had only two seasons in the NHL. 1 down, 1 to go for JP. Also lol at "no signs of life."

 

[Wayne Primeau]

You can do that after he has 3 bad years in the nhl and shows no signs of life

Bud.

Man, all of your posts are baseless, inflammatory nonsense. Bennett has had two good years and one bad one. He played excellently in the 2015 playoffs, had a really promising rookie year where he scored a half a point-per-game, and last year, he got off to a rocket-like start and then fell off the face of the earth, until the playoffs where he was IMO the Flames' best player.

He's projecting at the moment to be a Backlund-type. Not all player development is linear -- not every player gets 6x6 contracts after their ELC . Nor does every player who regresses immediately after a good rookie season become a bust who's never shown signs of life. Ever heard of Kyle Turris? Jonathan Drouin? Same problem. Sophomore slumps are a cliche for a reason.

 

[DJJones]

I really, really can't wait to call Puljujarvi a bust next offseason

I hope they attach him to McDavids hip and have to pay him 6M a year.

I don't think Chiarelli has the brains or the balls to deal with the point inflation McDavid will give players.

 

[Connor]

Bennett's had only two seasons in the NHL. 1 down, 1 to go for JP. Also lol at "no signs of life."

The "countdown" is more until the end of his ELC which Bennett has reached and Puljujarvi still has two more years to hit.

Depending on what his value is around the league, I would entertain trading Bennett; if the Flames can get an older, impact player that would make the Flames a better team now. Waiting on Bennett to blossom is risky.

 

[DJJones]

The "countdown" is more until the end of his ELC which Bennett has reached and Puljujarvi still has two more years to hit.

Depending on what his value is around the league, I would entertain trading Bennett; if the Flames can get an older, impact player that would make the Flames a better team now. Waiting on Bennett to blossom is risky.

And trading him is even more risky. Sure Pastrnak would be great but that's not happening.

There's no one we could trade Bennett for that I would be remotely interested for.

 

[Fatass]

I'd rather trade Gaudreau than Bennett, so sure.

Agreed. Bennett for Pastrnak is not fair, Goudreau would be fair. Goudreau might even have the lesser cap hit after Pastrnak sign too.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Bennett's had only two seasons in the NHL. 1 down, 1 to go for JP. Also lol at "no signs of life."

28 games does not a full season make.

Even the most diehard Flames fan would admit OP is absurdly tilted in their favour.

 

[Mobiandi]

28 games does not a full season make.

Even the most diehard Flames fan would admit OP is absurdly tilted in their favour.

Oh really? Oilers fans are already on a desperate attack after Bennett's first two seasons. I wonder what you guys would say if he had to spend some time in the AHL after a lengthy period where he was a healthy scratch.

Every Flames fan here has admitted Bennett is not worth Pastrnak. I'd make that trade in a heartbeat.

 

[ThatHighGuy]

I love how people just bash Bennett at any chance they get and they've probably never even seen him play. Yeah the stats may tell that he's regressed but if you've actually paid attention, Bennett took on more responsibility with his defensive game and played the whole year at centre with scrub line mates. People should actually watch him play before making such baseless claims that he's in yakupov bust territory, it's actually quite embarrassing

 

[Wayne Primeau]

28 games does not a full season make.

Even the most diehard Flames fan would admit OP is absurdly tilted in their favour.

If 28 games isn't a full season, then why are you guys trying to say that Bennett has pissed away, I quote, "three seasons" of "no signs of life" when that first season was only 12 games?

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

There's zero reason for the Flames to trade Bennett right now. You only do that if it becomes clear that he won't improve, and right now, he's nowhere near being a bust. He's 21, and he's solid defensively. He still has really good potential -- but clearly, judging by the responses in this thread, not much value league-wide.

Bennett is worth much more to the Flames than he is to any other team.

Here's one reason - Calgary gets the far, far, far superior player. They could then trade Pastrnak for a much better return if they must.

 

[Mobiandi]

If 28 games isn't a full season, then why are you guys trying to say that Bennett has pissed away, I quote, "three seasons" of "no signs of life" when that first season was only 12 games?

It was only 1 regular season game too, followed by an impressive display in the post-season. There are question marks around Bennett but calling him Yakupov is just hilarious

 

[Wayne Primeau]

Here's one reason - Calgary gets the far, far, far superior player. They could then trade Pastrnak for a much better return if they must.

Well, I suppose, but how are you going to convince me that Bennett for Pastrnak is in any way fair value? Because that makes zero sense for Boston. I'm sure they'd want a more proven commodity. Perhaps Bennett turns into a 50-point guy next season, but at the stage the Bruins are in, they can't really afford to gamble like that.

 

[Elias Pettersson]

I love how people just bash Bennett at any chance they get and they've probably never even seen him play. Yeah the stats may tell that he's regressed but if you've actually paid attention, Bennett took on more responsibility with his defensive game and played the whole year at centre with scrub line mates. People should actually watch him play before making such baseless claims that he's in yakupov bust territory, it's actually quite embarrassing

I love how people just bash Yakupov at any chance they get and they've probably never even seen him play. Yeah the stats may tell that he's regressed but if you've actually paid attention, Yakupov took on more responsibility with his defensive game and played the whole year at centre with scrub line mates. People should actually watch him play before making such baseless claims that he's in Bennett bust territory, it's actually quite embarrassing

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Well, I suppose, but how are you going to convince me that Bennett for Pastrnak is in any way fair value? Because that makes zero sense for Boston. I'm sure they'd want a more proven commodity. Perhaps Bennett turns into a 50-point guy next season, but at the stage the Bruins are in, they can't really afford to gamble like that.

Even if Bennett does become a 50 point player next year it wouldn't be worth it. He'd have to get around 65 to be an equivalent player

 

[Elias Pettersson]

Oh really? Oilers fans are already on a desperate attack after Bennett's first two seasons. I wonder what you guys would say if he had to spend some time in the AHL after a lengthy period where he was a healthy scratch.

Every Flames fan here has admitted Bennett is not worth Pastrnak. I'd make that trade in a heartbeat.

Why would the Oiler's fans mount a desperate attack?? They couldn't care less about bennett because they have 2 players that is better than anyone on the Flames roster can ever dream to be.
Just because someone states a fact that's not in accordance to your homer views, doesn't make it a desperate attack.
The real world must be scary for you if you have this kind of mindset.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Oh really? Oilers fans are already on a desperate attack after Bennett's first two seasons. I wonder what you guys would say if he had to spend some time in the AHL after a lengthy period where he was a healthy scratch.

Every Flames fan here has admitted Bennett is not worth Pastrnak. I'd make that trade in a heartbeat.

The same ones would say he's a young player that needed some time to develop.

We've seen 180 or so games of Bennett at the NHL level. Gives you a better idea of what he's capable of than Puljujarvi's 28.

Even if Puljujarvi played every single game next season, we'd need roughly another full season after that to get an idea of what he'd become. I'm sure at that point piranhas desperate to call him a bust would start to circle, and there would be Oiler fans defending him as hard as Flames fans are defending Bennett right now.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

If 28 games isn't a full season, then why are you guys trying to say that Bennett has pissed away, I quote, "three seasons" of "no signs of life" when that first season was only 12 games?

I don't know why some are saying that - I'm not. What I am saying is after 159 NHL games, Bennett has 63 points. It might be time to start tempering the sky-high expectations and valuations Flames fans have of this kid.

Not everyone is going to be a superstar, and a 30-40 point physical two way forward has value to teams in this league. Just not David Pastrnak value - or particularly close.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

The Flames have good reason to defend Bennett. The only thing that's foolish is thinking that he will remain at his current level of play.

Again back to the point of the thread, Bennett is not worth Pasta and everyone knows that. The add would probably be Valimaki and probably something else. Which from my standpoint, does not makes sense based on Bennett's potential. It's why I'd rather just deal Gaudreau for Pasta.

 

[ThatHighGuy]

I love how people just bash Yakupov at any chance they get and they've probably never even seen him play. Yeah the stats may tell that he's regressed but if you've actually paid attention, Yakupov took on more responsibility with his defensive game and played the whole year at centre with scrub line mates. People should actually watch him play before making such baseless claims that he's in Bennett bust territory, it's actually quite embarrassing

Hey at least you tried right

 

[ChaoticOrange]

I love how people just bash Yakupov at any chance they get and they've probably never even seen him play. Yeah the stats may tell that he's regressed but if you've actually paid attention, Yakupov took on more responsibility with his defensive game and played the whole year at centre with scrub line mates. People should actually watch him play before making such baseless claims that he's in Bennett bust territory, it's actually quite embarrassing

I liked where you were going here but there is a 0% chance Yakupov played centre.

 

[Dieseloil]

The Flames have good reason to defend Bennett. The only thing that's foolish is thinking that he will remain at his current level of play.

Again back to the point of the thread, Bennett is not worth Pasta and everyone knows that. The add would probably be Valimaki and probably something else. Which from my standpoint, does not makes sense based on Bennett's potential. It's why I'd rather just deal Gaudreau for Pasta.

While that would be more fair for Boston, just don't see Calgary dealing their top offensive guy. They will need one more year of goalie blaming before that will happen. Closer compare would be be Brad Marchand for Johnny, and Boston would never do that deal either.

 

[Mobiandi]

Why would the Oiler's fans mount a desperate attack?? They couldn't care less about bennett because they have 2 players that is better than anyone on the Flames roster can ever dream to be.
Just because someone states a fact that's not in accordance to your homer views, doesn't make it a desperate attack.
The real world must be scary for you if you have this kind of mindset.

Oh yes, my totally homer views that Bennett isn't Yakupov or Brule or any other garbage comparisons that have been made in the past. Also, give me a break, almost every Flames related thread is brigaded by Oilers fans with negative, reductive comments to the point where they outnumber the contributions of Flames fans

 

[Wayne Primeau]

Why would the Oiler's fans mount a desperate attack?? They couldn't care less about bennett because they have 2 players that is better than anyone on the Flames roster can ever dream to be.
Just because someone states a fact that's not in accordance to your homer views, doesn't make it a desperate attack.
The real world must be scary for you if you have this kind of mindset.

Gaudreau's career high in points is higher than Draisaitl's. Not sure if Draisaitl is better than Gaudreau "could ever dream to be". That's ridiculous hyperbole.

Your statement might be true if you were talking about the Canucks, but...