Value of: Sam Bennett as a UFA

[Legion34]

He's already got his cup. Bennett is turning 29 (when most players start to leave their prime), and he has career earnings of only $29,475,000. This is likely his only chance to get a big contract, and he will be extremely sought after, as the hype is still on him in a big way.

Is Florida willing to cough up $8 million? Yes, Florida has no tax, but that only applies to half your earnings, and lots of other states have low or no tax. I see him maybe taking a 500k discount to stay in Florida, but not much more.

He's also from North of Toronto. As fun as as it is to live in big American cities, they also have a lot of downsides for Canadians. Not going to derail the thread with the reasons, but there are lots.

Not If you get SB. Then it is full no state tax

 

[BoHorvat 53]

In 22' Kadri was 5.77% of the cap at 82.5 million

That would put Bennett at 6.68 million. With extra cap hikes announced the next two years hes going to make more then that.

In the 4 seasons prior to each players UFA season Bennett has .72 ppg and Kadri .79 ppg. They are both #2 centers with grit. Kadri better health at 31 Bennett younger at 28.

Completely totally comparable.

The season before Kadri was a UFA, he produced at a 1.23 PPG pace (101 point pace, only played 71 games) while Sam Bennett is producing at a 0.69 PPG pace (57 point pace). As you said, Kadri was older, but he also didn't have health concerns Bennett does who seems to be a lock to miss 10-20 games in a season.

I don't think the 2 are comparable, especially because of Kadri's last season before UFA vs Bennett's. No matter what intangibles we're going to talk about, producing at a 101 point pace vs a 57 point pace is worlds apart.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

The Flyers will offer him a stupid contract with a full NTC to boot. They are going to be desperate this summer to add what they think is a elite player

 

[I am Canadian]

8 million is insane. It's going to take me some time to get used to these new bumps in salary

 

[pld459666]

NYR enter the chat.

7×9

 

[BHawk21]

The season before Kadri was a UFA, he produced at a 1.23 PPG pace (101 point pace, only played 71 games) while Sam Bennett is producing at a 0.69 PPG pace (57 point pace). As you said, Kadri was older, but he also didn't have health concerns Bennett does who seems to be a lock to miss 10-20 games in a season.

I don't think the 2 are comparable, especially because of Kadri's last season before UFA vs Bennett's. No matter what intangibles we're going to talk about, producing at a 101 point pace vs a 57 point pace is worlds apart.

teams dont just ignore the full body of work when handing out contracts. The two years prior Kadri had 32 points and 36 points in 50 some games. Bennett was close to a PPG in two playoff runs and won a cup. They play the same position and will get similar percentage of cap hits.

 

[BHawk21]

Chyrchun just got 8x9. Bennett should get close to that?

 

[Laus723]

Chyrchun just got 8x9. Bennett should get close to that?

sure, those two are comparable.

 

[BHawk21]

sure, those two are comparable.

you can see this price jumps comin. well most of us can see.

 

[Laus723]

because i said Chychrun got 8x9 and Bennett should get close to that? Someones sensitive.

Ekblad is also up, yet you come in talking about Chychrun in a 2C Bennett thread, TF is the point?

 

[BHawk21]

Ekblad is also up, yet you come in talking about Chychrun in a 2C Bennett thread, TF is the point?

This is a Sam Bennett is a UFA thread.

 

[Laus723]

This is a Sam Bennett is a UFA thread.

and what is Bennett and what is Chychrun?

 

[BHawk21]

and what is Bennett and what is Chychrun?

Im not sure the question here. Chyrchrun a pending UFA (like Bennett) just signed a big contract. The numbers are high. It looks as tho this would set a standard/precedent for future deals to come.

I think Ekblad loves this deal too. Im not sure what your upset about.

 

[Captain97]

Im not sure the question here. Chyrchrun a pending UFA (like Bennett) just signed a big contract. The numbers are high. It looks as tho this would set a standard/precedent for future deals to come.

I think Ekblad loves this deal too. Im not sure what your upset about.

To me Chychrun came in at 1-1.5 what my guys feels (before cap jump) assuming my gut feel is now off by 1-1.5 given the new cap I am guessing Bennett comes in at 7.5-8.5. My gut was 6.5-7, so new cap reality adjustment says 7.5 - 8.5 imo.

 

[BHawk21]

To me Chychrun came in at 1-1.5 what my guys feels (before cap jump) assuming my gut feel is now off by 1-1.5 given the new cap I am guessing Bennett comes in at 7.5-8.5. My gut was 6.5-7, so new cap reality adjustment says 7.5 - 8.5 imo.

Yea maybe 8x8 because Florida? Thats 64 million with no tax. Same as 9.25 on any other team.

At the same time Id rather Bennett on my team then Chychrun. So I dunno.

 

[blankall]

Yea maybe 8x8 because Florida? Thats 64 million with no tax. Same as 9.25 on any other team.

At the same time Id rather Bennett on my team then Chychrun. So I dunno.

Rather have Bennett now, but I think Chychrun will age better through this contract. Chychrun looks like a defender who's still improving, plays a less physical game, and he's over 2 years younger. IMO aged 32+ year old Sam Bennett carries serious risk.

 

[Laus723]

Im not sure the question here. Chyrchrun a pending UFA (like Bennett) just signed a big contract. The numbers are high. It looks as tho this would set a standard/precedent for future deals to come.

I think Ekblad loves this deal too. Im not sure what your upset about.

Upset? You have a strange obsession with Bennett, what he’ll make, and people’s emotions. You eager to see the Panthers fall apart? Benny on the team or not won’t affect the Panthers.

 

[barkovcanfinnish]

Fantastic 2nd line center that plays hard. He does have a bit of an injury history though, and that could make teams wary of a long-term big-AAV investment. I think 7-7.5mil will be what he ends up getting if he stays with Florida. Probably around 8mil elsewhere.

 

[lawrence]

Bennets agent is a true winner. one of the best. Hes known for getting players more money than they deserve. Names include Josh Anderson, Mitch Marner Nazm Kadri, and Philip Broberg.

Bennet is rightfully gonna cash out this summer. His agent will probably sell him like a 2nd line centerman who was just on team Canada as selling points.

 

[BHawk21]

Upset? You have a strange obsession with Bennett, what he’ll make, and people’s emotions. You eager to see the Panthers fall apart? Benny on the team or not won’t affect the Panthers.

You'r taking this very personally. This is a sam bennett is a UFA thread. I said hes gunna get paid a lot looking at other UFAs getting paid.

If it doesnt matter then im guessing ur hoping they let him walk.

 

[Laus723]

You'r taking this very personally. This is a sam bennett is a UFA thread. I said hes gunna get paid a lot looking at other UFAs getting paid.

If it doesnt matter then im guessing ur hoping they let him walk.

Personally? Upset?? You can't just have a board discussion without addressing emotions? Are you a therapist? Do you need one? I hope they let him walk? Now there's words in my mouth? f***ing weird.

You have a weird obsession with the thread and you're like hoping beyond hope that he gets overpaid...what's with the obsession?

Sorry, I know there's a lot here for you to process. Take it slowly.

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

He's also from North of Toronto. As fun as as it is to live in big American cities, they also have a lot of downsides for Canadians. Not going to derail the thread with the reasons, but there are lots.

Like what? Have a couple Canadian friends that were always super worried about citizenship/having to go back to Canada.

 

[blankall]

Like what? Have a couple Canadian friends that were always super worried about citizenship/having to go back to Canada.

Well, to start:

1. The USA is filled with poverty, in a way that Canada isn't, particularly in the big cities.
2. Crime. This is related to point one. Cities like Miami have many neighbourhoods where it's simply not safe to walk around at various times.
3. Trump politics are very different than Canadian ones.
4. Hurricanes and other weather phenomena. Yes, the lack of winters in Florida is nice, but the summers can be punishing with the heat. There's been 4 hurricanes in Miami in less than 3 years.
5. Pests: I've never seen a cockroach in my home.
6. Guns.
7. Family. Bennett's family is in Ontario.
8. American attitudes. The fact you're even asking this question and it seems baffling to you that not everyone wants to live in Florida, proves my point.


When you're young, it's really fun to drive around in a fancy car and go to big clubs. When you get older you need to start to worry about things like where your raising your children. I don't know where Sam Bennett is in his life, but he's rounding 30.

 

[Laus723]

Well, to start:

1. The USA is filled with poverty, in a way that Canada isn't, particularly in the big cities.
2. Crime. This is related to point one. Cities like Miami have many neighbourhoods where it's simply not safe to walk around at various times.
3. Trump politics are very different than Canadian ones.
4. Hurricanes and other weather phenomena. Yes, the lack of winters in Florida is nice, but the summers can be punishing with the heat. There's been 4 hurricanes in Miami in less than 3 years.
5. Pests: I've never seen a cockroach in my home.
6. Guns.
7. Family. Bennett's family is in Ontario.
8. American attitudes. The fact you're even asking this question and it seems baffling to you that not everyone wants to live in Florida, proves my point.


When you're young, it's really fun to drive around in a fancy car and go to big clubs. When you get older you need to start to worry about things like where your raising your children. I don't know where Sam Bennett is in his life, but he's rounding 30.

Boy, good thing the Panthers arena and the players don’t live in Miami I guess.

Honestly, please share this more so less snowbirds permanently move here, since 20202 they’re becoming year rounders. Canadians still come for their 6 months, though. I’ve seen more than ever.

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

Well, to start:

1. The USA is filled with poverty, in a way that Canada isn't, particularly in the big cities.
2. Crime. This is related to point one. Cities like Miami have many neighbourhoods where it's simply not safe to walk around at various times.
3. Trump politics are very different than Canadian ones.
4. Hurricanes and other weather phenomena. Yes, the lack of winters in Florida is nice, but the summers can be punishing with the heat. There's been 4 hurricanes in Miami in less than 3 years.
5. Pests: I've never seen a cockroach in my home.
6. Guns.
7. Family. Bennett's family is in Ontario.
8. American attitudes. The fact you're even asking this question and it seems baffling to you that not everyone wants to live in Florida, proves my point.


When you're young, it's really fun to drive around in a fancy car and go to big clubs. When you get older you need to start to worry about things like where you’re raising your children. I don't know where Sam Bennett is in his life, but he's rounding 30.

1 + 2. I make very little money compared to Sam Bennett and am able to afford living in a nice area in DC (major city). I don’t see very many homeless/poor people at all. There is literally zero crime in my neighborhood. Very overblown and not a relevant concern for someone making 500k, much less $4.425M. Don’t believe me? NY, LA, Chicago all are “high in crime” and still destinations for players.

3. Who cares. If anything it’s a plus for a rich guy. Half the country hates the guy and deals with it.

4. my post was about the US as a whole. Not everywhere in the US is pounded by natural disasters lmao. Sure that is a concern in Florida, less so on the East coast of the state though. More manifests itself in insurance costs.

5. Lmao what? I have never had a cockroach in my house either.

6. Ton of Americans don’t believe in gun rights and live here.

7. Valid.

8. I didn’t say everyone wants to live in Florida? Again talking about the entire US. I mentioned that every single Canadian I knew in college wanted to stay. They were very desperate to secure a job here so they could stay. Sure that is anecdotal but it also wasn’t my opinion or “attitude”

Plenty of good people raise their kids in all corners of the US. With fancy cars. And some in not so fancy cars. Overall seems like you’re projecting your opinions on to everyone. Was really a lot of irrelevant bullets points outside of where his family is from.