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2025 | --- | --- | 4th SBY 4th | --- | LDN 6th | SAR 7th | 9th | 10th | 11th | 12th BRA 12th | 13th | 14th | 15th | |
2026 | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | 7th | 8th | 9th | 10th | --- | 12th | 13th | 14th | 15th KGN 15th* |
2027 | --- | --- | --- | --- | 6th | 7th | 8th | 9th BRA 9th | 10th | 11th | --- | 13th | 14th | --- |
2028 | 2nd | 3rd | 4th | 5th | 6th | 7th | 8th | 9th | 10th | 11th | 12th | 13th | 14th | 15th |
Lalonde played a game for Kingston, so there's another 3rd in there. So now that's 2, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4. They can probably get an import forward for cheap. Let's say a couple 4ths. That leaves 2, 3, 3, 4. You've added a F. Zhilkin comes back from injury, Chernyshov will be back for the second half, and you can't have all of Gervais, Hay, Sima, and Moore as OA's next year. I think one of them will be moved to a young team that needs an older/grittier player to help mentor the kids. So say that brings in a 3 and a 4. Now we have 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4,. Offense will be set. Now we need 2 D. 2, 3, 3, 4 is one. Glavin or Jones plus 3, 4 is another. These won't be the big name guys but will be solid defenseman we need. The path to take one more run is there.Honest question for Saggy fans. With a strong team this year, and virtually no draft picks for the next 4 years how do you plan to add to your roster to compete? Lets say you don't need to add and have a strong team. Saginaw does not have any picks in the upcoming years so how do you build your team. It may not be popular but some very good players mat need to be traded to rebuild what was used to win the Memorial Cup. Again just a honest question here.
Saginaw Spirit 2025 --- --- 4th SBY 4th --- LDN 6th SAR 7th 9th 10th 11th 12th BRA 12th 13th 14th 15th 2026 --- --- --- --- --- 7th 8th 9th 10th --- 12th 13th 14th 15th KGN 15th* 2027 --- --- --- --- 6th 7th 8th 9th BRA 9th 10th 11th --- 13th 14th --- 2028 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th 10th 11th 12th 13th 14th 15th
Think we see that open import spot get filled in the next week or so. Not really any import D that are out there outside of Chromiak. Don't know if he's really an upgrade over anyone we have now. Still think Molnar would be the best way to maximize that open spot. Eventually Zhiklin will come back from injury. Najim should head to junior B. Harmer, Epperson, and Clouthier had good opening weeks. Someone on those 3rd and 4th lines is going to get pushed out. Will be interesting to see how we make sure we aren't trying to have track meets every night. Drinkell usually does a deal or two early.
I don't disagree with what you said. Let's say it happens somewhat to what you have said. I think the way you put it, you would not have any quality picks for the 2025 season because the drafts is before the end of the season. With what you propose trade(s) would need to be done sooner to help with next year.Lalonde played a game for Kingston, so there's another 3rd in there. So now that's 2, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4. They can probably get an import forward for cheap. Let's say a couple 4ths. That leaves 2, 3, 3, 4. You've added a F. Zhilkin comes back from injury, Chernyshov will be back for the second half, and you can't have all of Gervais, Hay, Sima, and Moore as OA's next year. I think one of them will be moved to a young team that needs an older/grittier player to help mentor the kids. So say that brings in a 3 and a 4. Now we have 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4,. Offense will be set. Now we need 2 D. 2, 3, 3, 4 is one. Glavin or Jones plus 3, 4 is another. These won't be the big name guys but will be solid defenseman we need. The path to take one more run is there.
Now, for recouping picks. Let's say Misa blows up this season. Makes the NHL out the gate. Won't get picks for him. Parekh is not making the NHL next season. He'll get an 09 plus picks. Epperson will have a strong year. Can move him for picks. Harmer could get moved next season for quite a bit. Hay as an OA potentially holds value. Same goes for Sima. Point is, they don't HAVE to sell this season. There is a path to rebuild around Zhilkin, Clouthier, 09's etc.
No not really. Here's what they would have if they empty the cabinet before the draft going into 25/26.I don't disagree with what you said. Let's say it happens somewhat to what you have said. I think the way you put it, you would not have any quality picks for the 2025 season because the drafts is before the end of the season. With what you propose trade(s) would need to be done sooner to help with next year.
If London gets everyone returned from the pros, they will be the overwhelming favorite in the West by a mile and it's foolish to add players this year. Parekh can be moved this year for a 1st round pick, a depth player and multiple picks because the team trading for him will get two years of him (or they can trade him again next year). We could not beat London in the playoffs last year with the stacked team, why would we think we could do it this year. They are big, physical and insanely talented and if I was a betting man, I think they go through the West playoffs with all sweeps...they're going to be that good once everyone is back.
If they want to start the rebuild this season because they want some 08's, then fine. I can respect that. But starting a rebuild because London is scary is coward behavior.If London gets everyone returned from the pros, they will be the overwhelming favorite in the West by a mile and it's foolish to add players this year. Parekh can be moved this year for a 1st round pick, a depth player and multiple picks because the team trading for him will get two years of him (or they can trade him again next year). We could not beat London in the playoffs last year with the stacked team, why would we think we could do it this year. They are big, physical and insanely talented and if I was a betting man, I think they go through the West playoffs with all sweeps...they're going to be that good once everyone is back.
If they want to start the rebuild this season because they want some 08's, then fine. I can respect that. But starting a rebuild because London is scary is coward behavior.
Coward behavior??? Someone tell Garber not to hire kingpin as the GM when Drinkell inevitably moves on. It's called taking a realistic look at the landscape and making smart decisions. Do you really think that we can beat London in a 7-game series this year??? The odds of that happening are less than 5% and that may be generous.If they want to start the rebuild this season because they want some 08's, then fine. I can respect that. But starting a rebuild because London is scary is coward behavior.
Coward behavior??? Someone tell Garber not to hire kingpin as the GM when Drinkell inevitably moves on. It's called taking a realistic look at the landscape and making smart decisions. Do you really think that we can beat London in a 7-game series this year??? The odds of that happening are less than 5% and that may be generous.
London has ELEVEN, yes eleven NHL picks currently on their roster and multiple 2nd/3rd round picks that they could spin into additional players. Saginaw's lineup today is what you will see in late February...they just don't have anything to trade and it would be foolish to trade away a young player when they need to rebuild for the future.
If there are good offers at the deadline, I think DD pulls the trigger on some of these guys. If not, he'll stand pat and trade people next year and make a decent playoff run. I don't think you need to look any further than Kitchener last year...they had a very good team but didn't have assets to add players, they stood pat, got swept by London and now are selling early this year. I don't want to be in that boat.
I don’t disagree that selling off would be a smart play. I’m saying that Drinkell isn’t looking at London to make that decision. I don’t think he cares how good London will be. They always are.Coward behavior??? Someone tell Garber not to hire kingpin as the GM when Drinkell inevitably moves on. It's called taking a realistic look at the landscape and making smart decisions. Do you really think that we can beat London in a 7-game series this year??? The odds of that happening are less than 5% and that may be generous.
London has ELEVEN, yes eleven NHL picks currently on their roster and multiple 2nd/3rd round picks that they could spin into additional players. Saginaw's lineup today is what you will see in late February...they just don't have anything to trade and it would be foolish to trade away a young player when they need to rebuild for the future.
If there are good offers at the deadline, I think DD pulls the trigger on some of these guys. If not, he'll stand pat and trade people next year and make a decent playoff run. I don't think you need to look any further than Kitchener last year...they had a very good team but didn't have assets to add players, they stood pat, got swept by London and now are selling early this year. I don't want to be in that boat.
Good to see Harmer, Cloutier, Epperson have a good start. If we want to be stronger than we will need to start with a top 4 D. Not much in draft picks so Drinkill will have to be creative in how we can attain 2 D. If we are in a good position in late December Chernyshov on his way back then trade Parekh for a 1st rd 07 and picks. That helps this season and the future. Can we be sure Parekh comes back if not we will lose a Mintyukov like return in picks if we don’t trade him near deadline.
Charlie Trethewey would be the big fish but he’s not leaving the NTDP and I doubt he’s coming next year. There is Candon O’Neil. 2007 born from the Soo. Putting up great numbers in the OJHL. Committed to LSSU. Might be worth trying to convince him but again that’s going to be a hard sell when he can stay close to home.I haven’t looked but does Saginaw have any d prospects going ncaa we could sign if the new rule goes into effect as anticipated ? Would be a free add.