Speculation: Sabres Roster Speculation - Pre-season 2023 Edition

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Based on his tenure, the past action would suggest he goes into the season with the goalies he has. Do you challenge that?

Once in the season, if the "goalies he's got" plan fails, trading for one will be his only option. Do you have another?

Or are you trying to say that Adams history suggests that even if the goalies are failing, Adams will ultimately do nothing about it in season, and just hope they develop. You could easily convince me that inaction would be his action if that is your point.
Adams' history suggests that even if the goalies are failing, Adams will ultimately do nothing about it in season, in terms of acquiring one via trade or free agency (barring a mass amount of injuries). Calling up or sending down may be his only movements.

The goalies were bad last season, which included before the TDL. Adams did nothing because he knew he had Levi coming up. Now that he has Levi locked into the organization, he knows he has something waiting in the wings (potentially). He's shown himself to not give up assets, even for a short term burst.

In short, inaction is the favorite of Adams' actions.
 
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Adams' history suggests that even if the goalies are failing, Adams will ultimately do nothing about it in season, in terms of acquiring one via trade or free agency (barring a mass amount of injuries). Calling up or sending down may be his only movements.

The goalies were bad last season, which included before the TDL. Adams did nothing because he knew he had Levi coming up. Now that he has Levi locked into the organization, he knows he has something waiting in the wings (potentially). He's shown himself to not give up assets, even for a short term burst.

In short, inaction is the favorite of Adams' actions.
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Some notable FA’s left. Any interest in any of these players on a 1 year deal?

Kane
Tarasenko
Dumba
Tatar

After that the list gets really rough.

Tarasenko and Tatar would probably be the only ones I would be excited about. I would with Kane just in a nostalgic way, but I don’t think it’s a fit at all with where we are heading.

Dumba kind of blows but would rather have him over Boosh, Joker, or Bryson if we could move out some of those guys.
some guys I wouldn't mind on a very cheap contract to help add flavor to our bottom 6 rotation:

Ryan Dzingel, Ondrej Kase, Joonas Donskoi,

Shoot, I wouldn't mind utilizing Granato's services to try and rebuild Nolan Patrick's career. He's had a decent track record of correcting course for a couple young players, especially guys with talent (Mittelstadt, Thompson, Skinner). You have cap space, you have contract space. You could pick him up for cheap.
 
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some guys I wouldn't mind on a very cheap contract to help add flavor to our bottom 6 rotation:

Ryan Dzingel, Ondrej Kase, Joonas Donskoi,

Shoot, I wouldn't mind utilizing Granato's services to try and rebuild Nolan Patrick's career. He's had a decent track record of correcting course for a couple young players, especially guys with talent (Mittelstadt, Thompson, Skinner). You have cap space, you have contract space. You could pick him up for cheap.

Kase and Donskoi are both likely done as NHLers.
 
some guys I wouldn't mind on a very cheap contract to help add flavor to our bottom 6 rotation:

Ryan Dzingel, Ondrej Kase, Joonas Donskoi,

Shoot, I wouldn't mind utilizing Granato's services to try and rebuild Nolan Patrick's career. He's had a decent track record of correcting course for a couple young players, especially guys with talent (Mittelstadt, Thompson, Skinner). You have cap space, you have contract space. You could pick him up for cheap.
I don't think I want any of those guys. I just wanted someone better at face offs and PK than Jost.

Maybe they tried and was one of the fish they didn't land.
 
Shoot, I wouldn't mind utilizing Granato's services to try and rebuild Nolan Patrick's career. He's had a decent track record of correcting course for a couple young players, especially guys with talent (Mittelstadt, Thompson, Skinner). You have cap space, you have contract space. You could pick him up for cheap.
Probably his problem is not skills, but health, not sure if he can still play.
 
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Kase and Donskoi are both likely done as NHLers.
That's fine, just giving examples. IMO, We don't necessarily need to improve the top 6 scoring. Even if those guys are done, I wouldn't mind looking for moves of similar nature. The problem with the team isn't the scoring the team can do. I think the wiser investments are in the role players of the team.

It's the two-way game, of pretty much our middle and/or bottom 6 players.

I would like to see the option of Buffalo rotating in guys with more speed to contend with the faster teams, or contend with maybe the more physical teams to beat them with speed.
 
That's fine, just giving examples. IMO, We don't necessarily need to improve the top 6 scoring. Even if those guys are done, I wouldn't mind looking for moves of similar nature. The problem with the team isn't the scoring the team can do. I think the wiser investments are in the role players of the team.

It's the two-way game, of pretty much our middle and/or bottom 6 players.

I would like to see the option of Buffalo rotating in guys with more speed to contend with the faster teams, or contend with maybe the more physical teams to beat them with speed.

Nosek was mentioned or someone like Tyler Motte.
 
some guys I wouldn't mind on a very cheap contract to help add flavor to our bottom 6 rotation:

Ryan Dzingel, Ondrej Kase, Joonas Donskoi,

Shoot, I wouldn't mind utilizing Granato's services to try and rebuild Nolan Patrick's career. He's had a decent track record of correcting course for a couple young players, especially guys with talent (Mittelstadt, Thompson, Skinner). You have cap space, you have contract space. You could pick him up for cheap.
Dzingel is done in the nhl, he's bad

donskoi hasn't played hockey in over a year

Kase, See Donskoi ^^
 
So it's hard to add players in the off season after week 1 but acquiring a goalie mid season is possible? There are hardly any impact moves made prior to the new year. They need a #2. Not even a 1B, just 25-30 solid games. They also need someone who can kill PKs and win face offs but I guess they'd rather "run it back".
 
So it's hard to add players in the off season after week 1 but acquiring a goalie mid season is possible? There are hardly any impact moves made prior to the new year. They need a #2. Not even a 1B, just 25-30 solid games. They also need someone who can kill PKs and win face offs but I guess they'd rather "run it back".
Last year, Comrie was literally the player you are describing. Trade for this year's version of him, and there's a chance he falters as well. Goaltending seems to be a high variance position. I mean a Comrie bounce back is certainly possible. A Pekka breakthrough is as well.
 
Who has a better chance of sticking?

Kulich or Savoie?

Pros and Cons for both and would like to see Kulich get another season in the AHL but could also see him sticking more than Savoie.
 
Who has a better chance of sticking?

Kulich or Savoie?

Pros and Cons for both and would like to see Kulich get another season in the AHL but could also see him sticking more than Savoie.

The thing likely to hold Kulich back is how he plays in his own zone. The scoring's cool, but we know that a guy who gives it all back isn't likely to be helping. Savoie at center in the WHL was a lot more responsible and engaged defensively than Kulich was at center or wing in the AHL. Now, Kulich has a stocky build and can shoot absolute BB's yet he's got to figure out that playing in his own zone is important. He models himself after Pasternak, and Pasta is a quality 2-way player. If he embraces that right away, great. If he's kinda the 18-year old who while not actively bad in his own zone in the AHL was not good making reads and positioning again, it's going to take time - probably about half of the year.

Both may have more future on the wing. I don't see Kulich at center at all and go back and forth with Savoie at that position, but regardless, both probably break in on the wing at the NHL level. I'd thought Savoie's year and how he played in the WHL put him in a better angle for the VO replacement slot, though Quinn's injury now has opened up that as well. And yeah, I'm sure people are going to look at the games where Savoie mixed in late with the Amerks as their snap decision factor for writing him off, but having watched almost every game for both of them since Thanksgiving on... Savoie looked like the more ready player to me.
 
The thing likely to hold Kulich back is how he plays in his own zone. The scoring's cool, but we know that a guy who gives it all back isn't likely to be helping. Savoie at center in the WHL was a lot more responsible and engaged defensively than Kulich was at center or wing in the AHL. Now, Kulich has a stocky build and can shoot absolute BB's yet he's got to figure out that playing in his own zone is important. He models himself after Pasternak, and Pasta is a quality 2-way player. If he embraces that right away, great. If he's kinda the 18-year old who while not actively bad in his own zone in the AHL was not good making reads and positioning again, it's going to take time - probably about half of the year.

Both may have more future on the wing. I don't see Kulich at center at all and go back and forth with Savoie at that position, but regardless, both probably break in on the wing at the NHL level. I'd thought Savoie's year and how he played in the WHL put him in a better angle for the VO replacement slot, though Quinn's injury now has opened up that as well. And yeah, I'm sure people are going to look at the games where Savoie mixed in late with the Amerks as their snap decision factor for writing him off, but having watched almost every game for both of them since Thanksgiving on... Savoie looked like the more ready player to me.
Would Benson be a wild card to making the team because of the Quinn injury and maybe VO gets traded or is it automatic he goes back to the WHL?
 
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Savoie IMO, at least at first

9 game tryout to see if he can play, if not send him back to the dub

Kulich can be called up at any point. Keep him hungry for another quarter/half season until injuries hit.
It's tough assuming either will be full timers because neither have played NHL games and you never really know how guys will respond. I can't imagine the team wants Savoie in juniors but the duo will get equal opportunity to make the Sabres.
 
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