Friedman: Sabres gauging the market on Byram

[Peter Griffin]

Is Byram one year away from UFA status or 2? Does the 20/21 season count as an accrued year?

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Is Byram one year away from UFA status or 2? Does the 20/21 season count as an accrued year?

He's 2 years away

 

[Peter Griffin]

He's 2 years away

I read his hockeydb wrong anyway and counted 23/24 season twice.

 

[tsujimoto74]

Really curious what opinions are on Quinn around the league.

I'm pretty sure Sabres management had him ranked on par, if not ahead of Peterka a year ago.

How much has a terrible year coming off two bad injuries changed that?

I'd certainly be intrigued by him as a buy-low candidate if he's for sale at those rates.

I really think Buffalo will regret it if they sell low on him, and I don’t see any reason to. He’s a tremendous talent, but the Achilles injury is a hard one to come back from, and he obviously wasn’t able to have the summer he needed to before last season. He’s going to be cheap to bridge, so idk why we’d move him now when his value can only go up (and if the injury derails his whole career, then we’re not any worse off than if we traded him for junk).

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

Because if Buffalo matches, they walk Byram straight to UFA and lose him for free.

That is not a reason that any team has ever done an offer sheet. Complete nonsense.

Literally no one has ever done an offer sheet to solely prevent the other team from buying any UFA years. That’s what you are saying.

 

[SundherDome]

Where are you getting confused?

- Byram HAS THE ABILITY to accept his QO or elect salary arbitration to avoid signing with Buffalo long-term; he is only two years away from unrestricted free agency
- Buffalo not being able to sign him long-term reduces his trade value
- Buffalo not wanting to let him walk as a free agent puts pressure on them to trade him this summer
- Teams will see all of these factors and not offer premium assets for Byram
- Therefore Buffalo will be stuck trading him for non-premium assets if they don’t want to let him walk in free agency

Really not that hard to piece together. Buffalo won’t be getting a top-4 RHD or two-way 2C unless he’s old or has similar leverage to escape signing long-term.

These points are all valid. I don't think they apply as over half the league should be inquiring and I imagine the bidding war would erase any leverage negatives. Hence why Buffalo is shopping him now.

Now the difficult piece is to get that 1/2C or Vet, not over the hill shutdown dman to pair with Power.

 

[Bellzy]

Your plan is to convince Reilly to go to... Buffalo?

I think more likely you convince Vancouver to take home town boy Reilly in for a solid forward. Then flip to buffalo for byram. Byram-Tanev pair would be nasty.

 

[Peter Griffin]

I think more likely you convince Vancouver to take home town boy Reilly in for a solid forward. Then flip to buffalo for byram. Byram-Tanev pair would be nasty.

Vancouver is trading one of their forwards for Reilly, why?

 

[Hasekperreault23]

As San Jose is my second team, I’d take it. But I think it’s an overpayment. Musty and Mukhamadullin would be enough. Maybe throw in one of Kovalenko or Graf.

I just want Mukhamadullin so Rob Ray can try to pronounce it

 

[tsujimoto74]

I think more likely you convince Vancouver to take home town boy Reilly in for a solid forward. Then flip to buffalo for byram. Byram-Tanev pair would be nasty.

And Buffalo wants anything to do with Reilly because ????

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Just a PSA it's Rielly.

So, more reason to not want him

 

[Djp]

Because if Buffalo matches, they walk Byram straight to UFA and lose him for free.

You realize Buffalo could trade him the next year and get a 1st+ for him

Teams tend to be conservative in doing this unless they feel like they can actually get the player as the what goes around comes around feeling amongst the NHL management brotherhood has a somewhat " unwritten code" for these signings.

Next yr with a McKenna lottery, and OS can't be protected. The teans that have the space, also have the risk.

 

[Beerz]

I just want Mukhamadullin so Rob Ray can try to pronounce it

Supposedly Rob Ray is retiring. =(

 

[Beerz]

Really curious what opinions are on Quinn around the league.

I'm pretty sure Sabres management had him ranked on par, if not ahead of Peterka a year ago.

How much has a terrible year coming off two bad injuries changed that?

I'd certainly be intrigued by him as a buy-low candidate if he's for sale at those rates.

He is actually the one at risk of being offer sheeted .. unfortunately

 

[Chainshot]

Would something around Andersson + Pospisil for Byram and Quinn work? Assuming it's after July 1 and Andersson's willing to extend. Pospisil would provide some much needed defensive play too. I would offer Coleman but I doubt he waives there

I would be game.

And yes, Coleman would be wonderful, but with his trade protection and no reason to go near WNY I can't see him waiving it.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

That is not a reason that any team has ever done an offer sheet. Complete nonsense.

Literally no one has ever done an offer sheet to solely prevent the other team from buying any UFA years. That’s what you are saying.

That's all MB's offer sheet to Aho accomplished. Who knows what the hell he was trying to do?

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

I would be game.

And yes, Coleman would be wonderful, but with his trade protection and no reason to go near WNY I can't see him waiving it.

Would you throw in Krebs? We could use another center

 

[Chainshot]

Would you throw in Krebs? We could use another center

If it was a bigger deal, I might. I know there was a lot of chatter about Krebs being a possible Flame last summer, might be something to look at again.

That said, Ruff seems to love him so with him having more of a voice in personnel decisions, I could see it being less likely.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

If it was a bigger deal, I might. I know there was a lot of chatter about Krebs being a possible Flame last summer, might be something to look at again.

That said, Ruff seems to love him so with him having more of a voice in personnel decisions, I could see it being less likely.

Is there still animosity between him and Dahlin?

 

[Chainshot]

Is there still animosity between him and Dahlin?

I don't think there ever was per both his and Dahlin's comments.

 

[Hasekperreault23]

Supposedly Rob Ray is retiring. =(

Never heard that...

 

[Legion34]

How's that working out for the Leafs?

Ummm made them the richest franchise in NHl history? So pretty good?

 

[Legion34]

Buffalo doesn't need to 'win' this trade.

They need an experienced, prime of near-prime player thats a better fit. Defensive dman, preferrably right shot, to pair with dahlin or power.

Realistically that would be Carlo. If Toronto wanted to remake its D.

Get rid of Rielly. Sign Ekblad and trade Carlo for Byram.

The unlikely but possible

 

[Djp]

I really think Buffalo will regret it if they sell low on him, and I don’t see any reason to. He’s a tremendous talent, but the Achilles injury is a hard one to come back from, and he obviously wasn’t able to have the summer he needed to before last season.

i agree. It takes a long time t o gully recover from an Achilles injury.

He’s going to be cheap to bridge, so idk why we’d move him now when his value can only go up (and if the injury derails his whole career, then we’re not any worse off than if we traded him for junk).

My concern is if he doesn't sign before July 1, he could get an OS of a low amt Buffalo can't match.

 

[trellaine201]

I really think Buffalo will regret it if they sell low on him, and I don’t see any reason to. He’s a tremendous talent, but the Achilles injury is a hard one to come back from, and he obviously wasn’t able to have the summer he needed to before last season. He’s going to be cheap to bridge, so idk why we’d move him now when his value can only go up (and if the injury derails his whole career, then we’re not any worse off than if we traded him for junk).

Don't forget his concussions!