Friedman: Sabres gauging the market on Bowen Byram

[StreetHawk]

I agree..im just basing it off what others have gotten in this market. I think Ferris will be forced to accept more reasonable numbers either with Buffalo or another team now that OS are off the table..

$7.7 mill on his bridge, plus his elc money. Probably in around $10.5 mill in career earnings. A 2 year deal is likely for say $12 mill give or take. Term like you said, probably $60 to $64 million. Is getting to $22.5 mill worth the risk? Another concussion, who knows how that would impact term on another contract? Or he can secure $70 mill to age 32.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

I would like Byram on the Sharks still but I don’t see a real deal to be made as the Sabres probably don’t want what the Sharks would likely make available here.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

How long before this guy is on Vegas?

 

[boredmale]

So how many teams are looking for a top 4 first unit LHD PP guy?

I know my Islanders in theory could use that this year but given we just drafted Schaefer I don't see us actively going out to get it. I could have seen Islander very interested if they somehow ended up with a different player this draft

 

[Grub]

I think the Sharks should look into getting him.

 

[threeVo]

Buffalo taking him to Arb was kinda a no brainer if they couldnt get a trade done im confused why people are making it seem like a bad decision? If they had a fair value trade it would have been made already.

Arb doesnt mean they cant trade him still. If its before the award its no diff than right now except no offer sheet, if its after then aside from some crazy award number what does it matter?

 

[coooldude]

I think the Sharks should look into getting him.

I'm guessing they already are but it's a matter of 1) price 2) sharks mostly have futures, sounds like Buffalo would prefer roster players, which we really don't have any that are valuable AND we're willing to part with. Although a 2 year deal could lower the price to something both teams are happy with.

 

[StreetHawk]

I'm guessing they already are but it's a matter of 1) price 2) sharks mostly have futures, sounds like Buffalo would prefer roster players, which we really don't have any that are valuable AND we're willing to part with. Although a 2 year deal could lower the price to something both teams are happy with.

Buffalo, 14 years of no PO. The Peterka trade was a clear example of them getting NHL player in Kesselring who fit a need at RHD. Not a big name but can give them a 2nd pair RHD. He's 25 and hasn't made any big money yet, so Buffalo should be able to extend him when his deal is up so that he can lock in some money.

Not really a lot on SJ roster that fits in with Buffalo that they can use for the next few years. Not dealing Smith or Cellibrini. Buffalo has plenty of wingers that are young, so Eklund is not someone they'd look at.

 

[Dietpepsi]

Buffalo taking him to Arb was kinda a no brainer if they couldnt get a trade done im confused why people are making it seem like a bad decision? If they had a fair value trade it would have been made already.

Arb doesnt mean they cant trade him still. If its before the award its no diff than right now except no offer sheet, if its after then aside from some crazy award number what does it matter?

agree'd.. still have options and lock him in arb # which will be well below the 9mil asking price.
They can choose to trade him at a later date if needed and control him for 2 years until UFA

 

[jMoneyBrah]

I'm guessing they already are but it's a matter of 1) price 2) sharks mostly have futures, sounds like Buffalo would prefer roster players, which we really don't have any that are valuable AND we're willing to part with. Although a 2 year deal could lower the price to something both teams are happy with.

I could see Grier proposing something centered around Ferraro; but I don’t think Sharks have much in the way of other NHL assets they would be willing to part with that Buffalo would want. I suspect the Sharks would offer something like Ferraro + ‘26 EDM 1st + Musty. But everything I’ve read in this thread makes me think that wouldn’t be all that compelling to Buffalo.

 

[StreetHawk]

agree'd.. still have options and lock him in arb # which will be well below the 9mil asking price.
They can choose to trade him at a later date if needed and control him for 2 years until UFA

From what we have seen around the NHL, Buffalo's max value for him in trade will be by the 2026 TDL at the latest. At this point, a team can have him for up to 2 PO runs if they are prepared to let him walk afterwards or can sign him if they can agree to terms.

Can't leave it to 1 year left to deal him as if he doesn't agree to sign with an inquiring team, it more than likely kills a potential trade. Dobson passed on STL and didn't want to go to CBJ on the final rfa year. Sounding like Rasmus Andersson is selective about where he'd extend with right now as well.

 

[KrakenSabresMike]

Buffalo, 14 years of no PO. The Peterka trade was a clear example of them getting NHL player in Kesselring who fit a need at RHD. Not a big name but can give them a 2nd pair RHD. He's 25 and hasn't made any big money yet, so Buffalo should be able to extend him when his deal is up so that he can lock in some money.

Not really a lot on SJ roster that fits in with Buffalo that they can use for the next few years. Not dealing Smith or Cellibrini. Buffalo has plenty of wingers that are young, so Eklund is not someone they'd look at.

I think Buf would live a guy like Eklund for the next couple years at least - they are not as young as you think on the for sure top ) wingers with JJ gone

 

[Djp]

I would like Byram on the Sharks still but I don’t see a real deal to be made as the Sabres probably don’t want what the Sharks would likely make available here.

I think the Sharks should look into getting him.

I could see Grier proposing something centered around Ferraro; but I don’t think Sharks have much in the way of other NHL assets they would be willing to part with that Buffalo would want. I suspect the Sharks would offer something like Ferraro + ‘26 EDM 1st + Musty. But everything I’ve read in this thread makes me think that wouldn’t be all that compelling to Buffalo.

I think if Buffalo made a dea with SJ t would be bigger than Ferraro, +Musty+1st

 

[jMoneyBrah]

I think if Buffalo made a dea with SJ t would be bigger than Ferraro, +Musty+1st

I like Byram for the Sharks. What does a bigger deal look like to you?

 

[Hisch13r]

I think if Buffalo made a dea with SJ t would be bigger than Ferraro, +Musty+1st

Musty+1st is a crazy return

 

[DJN21]

Musty+1st is a crazy return

the deal proposed was Edmonton's first....not exactly a McKenna lotto ticket their....

 

[Petes2424]

The Sabres just keep trying to fix the trade they made with Colorado, by digging a deeper hole. Now, they seem prepared to walk him straight into being an unrestricted free agent. Why on earth?? Or they just have no grasp of what type of award he’s going to receive.

When they made the trade for Byram, they should’ve known they had a year to get him signed to a long-term deal, or trade him. That was their choice, yet they let that year come and go with neither result.

Now he holds all of the cards, and worse case scenario, he plays in Buffalo for 1-2 years, and they get nothing in return. All while he makes a monster AAV, stopping them from making other moves on their blue line.

This is approaching Ottawa/Debrincat level of a team just not knowing the market well.

He’ll now be traded this summer, to his preferred destination, or they’ll end up with nothing in return. You can guarantee, if the threat wasn’t made prior to the Sabres electing arbitration, it’s been made tonight by his agents.

 

[DJN21]

The Sabres just keep trying to fix the trade they made with Colorado, by digging a deeper hole. Now, they seem prepared to walk him straight into being an unrestricted free agent. Why on earth?? Or they just have no grasp of what type of award he’s going to receive.

When they made the trade for Byram, they should’ve known they had a year to get him signed to a long-term deal, or trade him. That was their choice, yet they let that year come and go with neither result.

Now he holds all of the cards, and worse case scenario, he plays in Buffalo for 1-2 years, and they get nothing in return. All while he makes a monster AAV, stopping them from making other moves on their blue line.

This is approaching Ottawa/Debrincat level of a team just not knowing the market well.

He’ll now be traded this summer, to his preferred destination, or they’ll end up with nothing in return. You can guarantee, if the threat wasn’t made prior to the Sabres electing arbitration, it’s been made tonight by his agents.

Aside from the fact most of this is wrong I think Buffalo did themselves a favor not giving a monster contract to Casey Mittsedt and trading him for and asset that might still have value...unlike Casey....

 

[wunderpanda]

ilyas magomedsultanov has to be part of the return, just so rob ray can struggle pronouncing it

 

[Satanphonehome]

The Sabres just keep trying to fix the trade they made with Colorado, by digging a deeper hole. Now, they seem prepared to walk him straight into being an unrestricted free agent. Why on earth?? Or they just have no grasp of what type of award he’s going to receive.

When they made the trade for Byram, they should’ve known they had a year to get him signed to a long-term deal, or trade him. That was their choice, yet they let that year come and go with neither result.

Now he holds all of the cards, and worse case scenario, he plays in Buffalo for 1-2 years, and they get nothing in return. All while he makes a monster AAV, stopping them from making other moves on their blue line.

This is approaching Ottawa/Debrincat level of a team just not knowing the market well.

He’ll now be traded this summer, to his preferred destination, or they’ll end up with nothing in return. You can guarantee, if the threat wasn’t made prior to the Sabres electing arbitration, it’s been made tonight by his agents.

No chance whatsoever the Sabres can trade him like any other rental at the deadline 2 years from now?

And even if they cannot, 3 years service from Byram in exchange for Mittelstadt equals “nothing”?

This post is so over-the-top silly, I’m not sure if you’re hysterical or just trolling.

 

[jMoneyBrah]

ilyas magomedsultanov has to be part of the return, just so rob ray can struggle pronouncing it

No can do. Sharks have big plans to play him on a pairing with Shakir Mukhamadullin just to torture Randy Hahn.

Randy will be working so hard as they pass the puck back and forth to each other, he’ll probably cry tears of pure relief once they finally pass it up to Will Smith.

 

[Bounces R Way]

Just get to the Sabre rinsing and get on with it. Adams really dragging this shit out.

 

[Ransome]

I could see Grier proposing something centered around Ferraro; but I don’t think Sharks have much in the way of other NHL assets they would be willing to part with that Buffalo would want. I suspect the Sharks would offer something like Ferraro + ‘26 EDM 1st + Musty. But everything I’ve read in this thread makes me think that wouldn’t be all that compelling to Buffalo.

I would be fine with this return. We get a cheaper defenseman and a different type, plus futures. Then we could trade the futures for a top 6 forward, for example.

 

[bleedblue1223]

With 2 more years to make a trade.

Kind of, sort of. Byram's peak value is going to be when he is able to sign a long-term extension at the same time he is traded to a new team, whether it's a sign and trade or just an extension signed by the new team. That means either between now and arbitration date or summer of 26. The somewhat unknown that Buffalo has to work with, is if they keep him on a 2 year deal that takes him to UFA status, and a trade doesn't happen to at least summer of 26, how picky will Byram be on talking extension, and that will have an impact on his return. Now, he could be that picky right now on destinations, and it's really no change, but I'd bet his max value would be before arbitration date with an extension locked in with the acquiring team.

 

[UnleashRasmus]

Would something around Johansson/Danielson/1st be interesting? Not sure what would intrigue you. Kasper is someone I know they said no to for Cozens, so I doubt he'd be available for Byram. I'd be willing to deal any of our prospects TBH. If ASP, then I'd remove the 1st.

I personally am not high on either prospect even if we were willing to take prospects. It's a major pass. I would rather take a futures return from St Louis starting with Dvorsky over Danielson. Johansson is nothing special.