Confirmed with Link: Sabres acquire 20th pick in the 2026 draft from SJS for Kesselring + 27

[Zman5778]

I also think the 20 is probably moving

IF this is a domino (I don't think it is, but I'll play along).........

I'm not at all sold that we're going to move it for a player. I wonder if we use 20 plus someone (Greenway?) to try to trade up in the first round again.

 

[Chainshot]

Worst thing? Screws up the board mock draft.





*hides*

 

[sabresnyper]

He wasn’t going to play much here and would have been too expensive. Would have preferred to get a better return, but it is what it is.

 

[Club]

I don't think we're done

Come the end of draft day.

Maybe that's just me

 

[HogtownSabresfan]

They didn't get any value, that's the problem.

His value today -- forget what it was a year ago -- is one year of team control and that's it. We don't know what he gets at arbitration and based on what's happen last year I don't see him signing even a two-year deal let alone longer. So what are you trading? Not much. They got the equivalent of a second.

 

[Zman5778]

Worst thing? Screws up the board mock draft.





*hides*

Funny thing is that Morozov went 19th in that mock.....

Wonder if @Hasbro would consider re-starting the mock at #20, given that the mock is only currently on pick 23?

 

[Sometimes the Goalie]

I'll say one thing: Jarmo is decisive. He's the anti-KA in that regard. He saw no role for Kesselring (culturally, contractually or lineup-wise) and pulled the plug. As to whether his decisions are good ones, I guess we'll need a larger sample size.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

 

[TNABuffalo]

Honestly is the difference in a player at 20 and 27th all that different? What does Buffalo do if all their guys before 20 have been picked off the board and they have to take their 27th rated player at 20? That would be hilarious.

I feel like your math is off a bit here......

Not sure how 27 players get picked by 20

 

[sabremike]

His value today -- forget what it was a year ago -- is one year of team control and that's it. We don't know what he gets at arbitration and based on what's happen last year I don't see him signing even a two-year deal let alone longer. So what are you trading? Not much. They got the equivalent of a second.

You could put the name of every guy in this draft who could conceivably be drafted between 20 and 27 in a hamper and draw a name and have the exact same odds the guy amounts to anything. A second would've been an extra ticket in a total crapshoot of a draft OR a potential sweetener to help unload a bad contract.

 

[Uberpecker]

Not a fan. Also, Jarmo does not strike me as a shrewd, smart individual.

 

[flashsabre]

What mythical value do some of you think Kesselring possesses?

Kesselring was dog for the Sabres. Couldn't beat out Metsa or Timmins or Stanley or Schenn. Couldn't stay healthy, didn't think the game when healthy, took too many penalties. produced nothing offensively and wasn't great defensively.

Word is they weren't even going to qualify him at $1.4 million. So using him to move up 7 spots was a nice piece of business for Jarmo

 

[DJN21]

This is 1000% ruff didnt like the player and frankly he knows more about him behind the scenes than we do. He told Jarmo he was on a short leash and Jarmo said screw it im not gonna deal with the arbitration process and ill save some cap flexibility ontop of the cherry of moving up in the draft we are hosting.

The rumblings that came out about Kess not responding to his recovering well and pressing to much to get back and make an impact compounded by the schenn and Stanley deals screams Ruff wanted nothing to do with him to me at least.

On the other side of the page if you're RyJo this is positive news lol...

 

[old kummelweck]

Let's hope this is just Jarmo listening to Forton that he believes there is going to be a really good player falling here. Otherwise, I don't understand why you do this before dealing with Byram.

On the Kesselring upside, I often put his situation in perspective that he was a sixth rounder. Maybe we were a little too fixated on him as a return initially in the Peterka trade and didn't give Doan enough value.

 

[enthusiast]

What mythical value do some of you think Kesselring possesses?

Kesselring was dog for the Sabres. Couldn't beat out Metsa or Timmins or Stanley or Schenn. Couldn't stay healthy, didn't think the game when healthy, took too many penalties. produced nothing offensively and wasn't great defensively.

Word is they weren't even going to qualify him at $1.4 million. So using him to move up 7 spots was a nice piece of business for Jarmo

Can't speak for anyone other than myself, but the dissatisfaction stems from selling low on the player when I don't think it's unreasonable at all to think he'd recover some value with an offseason of training with the team and usage out the gate.

However, if Ruff isn't going to make that happen, it's a moot point.

 

[thewookie1]

Kesselring had made it rather apparent he didn’t want to be a bottom pairing guy and Ruff likes Timmons for his shot blocking thus Samuelsson’s arrival and Byron resigning after the trade last year effectively eliminated the spot he was meant to play. Add to that all the injuries this year and you see how this came to be.

Would I have liked more, certainly but he wasn’t going to help out the cap situation with his QO and/or arbitration.

 

[HO Oats]

Can't speak for anyone other than myself, but the dissatisfaction stems from selling low on the player when I don't think it's unreasonable at all to think he'd recover some value with an offseason of training with the team and usage out the gate.

However, if Ruff isn't going to make that happen, it's a moot point.

How would we cash in on that hypothetical recovered value after he goes to arb on a one year deal and is set for UFA? Deadline deal once the team is already built and contending?

 

[Beerz]

I mean, they have until the 29th of June to make their QO's. This deal seems like it would've been there on draft day.

Maybe. Maybe not.

Maybe something shakes loose for San Jose that they like better and this deal disappears

 

[MiscBrah]

Maybe. Maybe not.

Maybe something shakes loose for San Jose that they like better and this deal disappears

I think that's driving a lot of this. Teams are making moves before the market dries up. Early movers might lose out, but at least you got your deal done and can put your attention on other items. Sometimes execution, even if imperfect, is the better option than waiting for the best possible moment.

 

[enthusiast]

How would we cash in on that hypothetical recovered value after he goes to arb on a one year deal and is set for UFA? Deadline deal once the team is already built and contending?

In a world where he's in the plans, they presumably manage some prove-it deal to avoid the contentious process. But, of course, I can't imagine he was in the plans given today's trade.

 

[Tatanka]

If Ruff had told Jarmo "I'm not playing him" or had zero confidence than Kess could play the way he wanted.......Jarmo pretty much had to move him.

We're entering a season where every dollar is going to matter. If Ruff thinks that Metsa or Johnson as the 3rd pairing guy next to Timmins would play as good or better than Kesselring.....save the $1M and trade Kesselring.

I just don't see why we make the move NOW. This feels like a move that could (should?) be made closer to the draft.

If Ruff told him I am not playing him, and if Jarmo thought from an asset perspective he warranted being in the lineup, Ruff should have been fired immediately. The Sabres problems for these many years is the lack of accountability. The GM sets the roster. The coach gets the most out of it. I fear we have not moved anywhere near as forward as some think. If Jarmo came to the conclusion Kess was not an nhl 5/6 then fine. I still hate the value.

 

[SundherDome]

Let's hope this is just Jarmo listening to Forton that he believes there is going to be a really good player falling here. Otherwise, I don't understand why you do this before dealing with Byram.

On the Kesselring upside, I often put his situation in perspective that he was a sixth rounder. Maybe we were a little too fixated on him as a return initially in the Peterka trade and didn't give Doan enough value.

They may have something with Byram but they can't do anything about it today. There is, imo, going to be a decent run defensemen, so it is possible a higher rated forward may slip into the late teens earlier 20's.

Kesselring was the main piece, we were just fortunate enough that Doan took that next step and became an impact player and better rounded player than JJ.

I would have loved to keep Kess as depth but his # might have been wayyy to high, it's a hard spot to trade a guy who disappointed and is set to make some decent coin.

So much behind the scenes that we don't know.

 

[Der Jaeger]

This is the move before we trade for McDavid, isn’t it?

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

Wouldn't using a "2nd" on Kesselring for the season and letting him walk be better value than 2nd+Rosen for Stanley's ~30 games?

Jarmo in Columbus never sparked confidence in me; and frankly that ship isn't being turn around right now either.

If this is all to spend an extra week on vacation via bypassing Arbitration I respect the game.

 

[jcbeze]

I feel like your math is off a bit here......

Not sure how 27 players get picked by 20

Teams have different draft ranks....pretty obvious