Value of: Sabres 1st Round Pick #9

[vokiel]

If there's someone interesting available there, the maximum I'd put on the table is the 16th, Pits 2nd and Boston's 4th.

In other words, nothing that great.

 

[dj Mahoney]

Sabre's need to grab the SSM Captain with the pick

 

[jjniner]

Ex-ext Steen to target Willander! One Swede to another

 

[jjniner]

Expect

 

[Dead Coyote]

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I'm very confident that Beniers has more value than any of those pieces, Bjorkstrand, the #9 pick, any of it.

I think he'd be closer to the #4. That's not saying he's all that great now, but he's a 22 year old with high pedigree, high two-way floor, etc...

FWIW I don't think Larsson fetches a top ten pick. Maybe something around pick #20, and that might only be at the trade deadline. His term will scare some teams away.

I was referring to Quinn + 9 for Beniers specifically. I think Beniers is more valuable individually than any of those pieces but I think Quinn and 9 is pretty good value if you think Quinn keeps progressing. Could see Buffalo not even wanting to do it.

 

[majormajor]

I was referring to Quinn + 9 for Beniers specifically. I think Beniers is more valuable individually than any of those pieces but I think Quinn and 9 is pretty good value if you think Quinn keeps progressing. Could see Buffalo not even wanting to do it.

I think Buffalo would trade a lot more than that to get Beniers.

 

[dickiedunnwrotethis]

I think Buffalo would trade a lot more than that to get Beniers.

For Beniers I'd toss Power's name into the ring.

 

[604]

What’s the deal with Beniers? He hasn’t passed 45 points in a couple of years and is on a long-term big ticket.

 

[jjniner]

Blues offer our first, Hofer and Kyrou for McLeod and your 9th.

 

[Dead Coyote]

I think Buffalo would trade a lot more than that to get Beniers.

I don't think he has that much more value than that. Maybe, especially for Buffalo. But Quinn is already close to Beniers production while being 1yr older that arguably has more offensive potential and another top ten pick is nothing to scoff at. We could probably get better value but it's not a bad offer I don't think.

 

[majormajor]

What’s the deal with Beniers? He hasn’t passed 45 points in a couple of years and is on a long-term big ticket.

22 year old solid two-way center who lacks finishing ability and doesn't have high end finishers to play with. If Seattle was to move him, you'd think Buffalo would be very interested. They need a "solid two-way center". Solid is not a word that can as easily be applied to Buffalo's pseudo-centers. And someone like Owen Power isn't solid at all. Same draft as Beniers and he's still a project.

I don't think he has that much more value than that. Maybe, especially for Buffalo. But Quinn is already close to Beniers production while being 1yr older that arguably has more offensive potential and another top ten pick is nothing to scoff at. We could probably get better value but it's not a bad offer I don't think.

I like Jack Quinn as a buy low candidate. He's the type of guy I expect to be moved for like a late 1st or 2nd rounder and I think could be a steal. I don't think teams will bid him up higher than that, even though you can make an argument that they should. For me his trade value doesn't greatly factor in to a trade for a Beniers level asset, it's more of a sweetener.

 

[Dead Coyote]

22 year old solid two-way center who lacks finishing ability and doesn't have high end finishers to play with. If Seattle was to move him, you'd think Buffalo would be very interested. They need a "solid two-way center". Solid is not a word that can as easily be applied to Buffalo's pseudo-centers. And someone like Owen Power isn't solid at all. Same draft as Beniers and he's still a project.



I like Jack Quinn as a buy low candidate. He's the type of guy I expect to be moved for like a late 1st or 2nd rounder and I think could be a steal. I don't think teams will bid him up higher than that, even though you can make an argument that they should. For me his trade value doesn't greatly factor in to a trade for a Beniers level asset, it's more of a sweetener.

I agree, I just think it's fair value. It's not really a trade I would make, but it could be a trade our GM would. For me, I have always advocated that I want extremely high skill guys back, and that's also why I've approved of a large amount of our draft picks. If we were to move Beniers I'd rather take a swing on someone like Rossi.

 

[majormajor]

I agree, I just think it's fair value. It's not really a trade I would make, but it could be a trade our GM would. For me, I have always advocated that I want extremely high skill guys back, and that's also why I've approved of a large amount of our draft picks. If we were to move Beniers I'd rather take a swing on someone like Rossi.

The Kraken should take a swing on Rossi regardless but I'm not sure if Beniers is even needed to make that happen. The prices being tossed around for Rossi are surprisingly low.

 

[Djp]

Blues offer our first, Hofer and Kyrou for McLeod and your 9th.

Not interested. Buffalo does not need Hofer and kyruo is not a need if Thompson and tuch are at RW. That's before you factor in cap issues.

 

[Panthaz89]

22 year old solid two-way center who lacks finishing ability and doesn't have high end finishers to play with. If Seattle was to move him, you'd think Buffalo would be very interested. They need a "solid two-way center". Solid is not a word that can as easily be applied to Buffalo's pseudo-centers. And someone like Owen Power isn't solid at all. Same draft as Beniers and he's still a project.



I like Jack Quinn as a buy low candidate. He's the type of guy I expect to be moved for like a late 1st or 2nd rounder and I think could be a steal. I don't think teams will bid him up higher than that, even though you can make an argument that they should. For me his trade value doesn't greatly factor in to a trade for a Beniers level asset, it's more of a sweetener.

Calling Power a project is completely ridiculous he just got 40 points and doesn't get no.1 PP time

 

[Giant Panda]

Calling Power a project is completely ridiculous he just got 40 points and doesn't get no.1 PP time

He's also got no tenacity and is mentally weak on the ice, so many goals happen with him watching it happen and the play going on around him.

He's talented but still has to fill out his difference making. Production =/= effective

 

[DesertPenguin]

RHD who is competent in the top 4 - leans heavier toward a defensive need than an offensive need.

Wouldn't sneeze at a mid-6 veteran winger with tread on the tire who plays a good 2-way game.

mid-6 veteran winger with tread and a good 2 way game = Rust or Rakell. 9OA works as the main piece for me.

 

[Sabresruletheschool]

He's also got no tenacity and is mentally weak on the ice, so many goals happen with him watching it happen and the play going on around him.

He's talented but still has to fill out his difference making. Production =/= effective

He's also 21 years old. Buffalo needs to stop trading thier high end talent before they start peaking.

 

[Chainshot]

He's also 21 years old. Buffalo needs to stop trading thier high end talent before they start peaking.

Power will be 23 at the start of the upcoming season and has 242 NHL games under his belt. When is he going to start acting like a defenseman?

 

[miscs75]

That pick is as good as gone if Lou gets hired and has any say.

 

[Djp]

Power will be 23 at the start of the upcoming season and has 242 NHL games under his belt. When is he going to start acting like a defenseman?

Based on draft eligibility rules next sesson is his 22 yr old season

 

[Chainshot]

Based on draft eligibility rules next sesson is his 22 yr old season

And that has to do with his actual age in this discussion how?

 

[SavBigMoneyAtBedards]

Connor Murphy (RHD) and Lukas Reichel

 

[tsujimoto74]

Power will be 23 at the start of the upcoming season and has 242 NHL games under his belt. When is he going to start acting like a defenseman?

Probably when he starts getting coached to. It’s a miracle this team didn’t ruin Dahlin with the staff we’ve had, but any young D at a talent level below that is doomed to fail here.

 

[Chainshot]

Probably when he starts getting coached to. It’s a miracle this team didn’t ruin Dahlin with the staff we’ve had, but any young D at a talent level below that is doomed to fail here.

Yeah, Wilford should have been shown the door last year at the latest. But Team Cheap kept him around for another go. *sigh*

Most money invested in the defense in the league, someone who got fired by his last team for being poor with their defense handling "Development".

*sigh*

This is such an un-serious team.