GDT: S1G3 - Stars @ Avs - Low-Effort Gangstalking edition

[DRL]

I don't see what was so wrong about that statement. He vociferously denies the allegations that yahoo was screaming last night, and I believe him when he says he doesn't know the guy at all. He also gets pretty emotional near the end when he says he has to take a step back from the podcasts, right after he just announced he was returning full-time. I would probably be pretty upset and rattled in that situation myself.


I'm not giving the asshole who stormed the stage and attacked someone unprovoked the benefit of the doubt. And there is no precedent whatsoever where some idiot like this would get "equal time." Furthermore, there is NO reason to believe what that guy is screaming off-camera. Say what you will about AJ, he's pretty honest. He's been up front about the failure of his marriage being his fault and his fault alone. And he has never in any way, shape, or form indicated that he is in any way a violent man, and doesn't commit any violence in that video, it's inflicted upon him (albeit very lightly).

I simply don't understand how you're questioning the professionalism of the DNVR crew when there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever they did anything to create or exacerbate the situation.

I get some of you really, really hate AJ. But this is f***ing ridiculous.

Whatever happened to the guy who replaced him at the start of the year? Gizmo or something.

 

[flyfysher]

Yeah, the biggest problem I have is the dumbshit power play, and Bednar for whatever reason keeping Necas and Mack together.

Instead, he goes with the less effective version with Drouin too.

It's actually what makes it so infuriating, the adjustments are simple, and the power play has been pathetic for a long time.

My issue is it’s obvious you need to be able to effectively roll four lines to make it through the SC POs. That means Bednar can’t afford to let Nelson’s line wither on the vine. A HC that does that deserves to be fired because it shows me that Bednar doesn’t really have a clue what you really need to win the SC. I’m beginning to think the Avs got lucky in winning the SC in spite of Bednar as HC. Now Bednar is trying to supercharge the first line again by putting Necas next to Mack so he can rely on them like he did with Mack and Rantanen. Well Necas with Mack and Drouin was awful so what reason does he have to keep sticking with it? That’s stupid and whoever says trust the process deserves to be strung up by their thumbs. If your HC doesn’t identify and effectively utilize his players including exploiting their strengths then he deserves to be canned.

 

[the_fan]

How about switching Coyle with Nelson in game 4? I’m thinking Coyle might do more than Nelson centering the 2nd line

 

[BaconNater]

Rudo drives me nuts on the pod, but god damn do I respect him going full "I'm going to kill someone" mode because someone shoved his buddy.

Eric LaCroix meanwhile

The Avs could use Rudos fight for sure lol

 

[NOTENOUGHRYJOTHINGS]

How about switching Coyle with Nelson in game 4? I’m thinking Coyle might do more than Nelson centering the 2nd line

Landy on his second game back having to carry the 2C that the Avs sold the farm for.

Sounds accurate for the way this playoffs is going.

 

[Balthazar]

We'll have Coyle at 2C for the entire season next year, might as well try him now.

 

[landy]

Whatever happened to the guy who replaced him at the start of the year? Gizmo or something.

Right. Dnvr is kindof a joke now but I can’t help but tune in after wins. Rudo should clean up and take Jesse’s spot with Megan on the gorilla one.

 

[the_fan]

Landy on his second game back having to carry the 2C that the Avs sold the farm for.

Sounds accurate for the way this playoffs is going.

Not Landy, I said put Coyle at 2C Nelson 3C

 

[illegitimate]

Whatever happened to the guy who replaced him at the start of the year? Gizmo or something.

sounded like he got forced out by someone much higher up the chain, maybe in the avs organization. the other casters didn't sound happy about it but he was abrasive and didn't provide much.

 

[Canadiancon]

Not Landy, I said put Coyle at 2C Nelson 3C

I’m thinking he meant Landy would have to do the heavy lifting on the third line if Nelson is moved down.

 

[the_fan]

I’m thinking he meant Landy would have to do the heavy lifting on the third line if Nelson is moved down.

Yeah, I misread that. I mean I don’t think there is any downside of trying Coyle on the 2nd line. He has done more so far and looked better than Nelson playing on the 3rd line. Why not move him up?

 

[NOTENOUGHRYJOTHINGS]

Not Landy, I said put Coyle at 2C Nelson 3C

But then Landy will be on the third line with Nelson.

And Landy will be carrying Nelson.

I'm not saying it's a wrong idea. It's just funny and exactly how this shit sandwich of a post season is going so far.

Sell the farm for a guy and he can't perform at 2C so he gets moved down and a glorified thing line W who hasn't played in a thousand days does the heavy lifting.

 

[the_fan]

But then Landy will be on the third line with Nelson.

And Landy will be carrying Nelson.

I'm not saying it's a wrong idea. It's just funny and exactly how this shit sandwich of a post season is going so far.

Sell the farm for a guy and he can't perform at 2C so he gets moved down and a glorified thing line W who hasn't played in a thousand days does the heavy lifting.

I think right now we really need the top 2 lines to produce offense since scoring against Dallas is really hard, then whatever we get from 3rd and 4th lines will be a bonus. I’d go with…

Lehky-Nate-Necas
Landy-Coyle-Val
Drouin-Nelson-Kivi
Kelly-Drury-LOC

 

[Foppa2118]

I think right now we really need the top 2 lines to produce offense since scoring against Dallas is really hard, then whatever we get from 3rd and 4th lines will be a bonus. I’d go with…

Lehky-Nate-Necas
Landy-Coyle-Val
Drouin-Nelson-Kivi
Kelly-Drury-LOC

Yes, I like this idea and these lines a lot. Potentially a great 2nd line. If he wants a hard forechecking 2nd line, that's it. Also could give them a look at a potential 2nd line next year, so they know if it might work.

Bedsy used to form his 3rd line with the guys who were struggling. That's not really Kivi, but he's the odd man out. Go back to that.

 

[BobRossColton]

Yes, I like this idea and these lines a lot. Potentially a great 2nd line. If he wants a hard forechecking 2nd line, that's it.

Bedsy used to form his 3rd line with the guys who were struggling. That's not really Kivi, but he's the odd man out. Go back to that.

Bedsy gonna tease us again with going back to
27-29-13
62-11-88

It's going to win us game 4,

Then another switcheroo.

 

[CobraAcesS]

I think right now we really need the top 2 lines to produce offense since scoring against Dallas is really hard, then whatever we get from 3rd and 4th lines will be a bonus. I’d go with…

Lehky-Nate-Necas
Landy-Coyle-Val
Drouin-Nelson-Kivi
Kelly-Drury-LOC

I don't think it's smart to make a "leftovers" line.

It should be,

Drouin - Mack - Nuke
Lehky - Nelson - Necas
Landy - Coyle - Kiviranta
Kelly - Drury - LOC

I'm really not sure why Bednar is trying literally everything else but what has worked.

Necas likes to pass, Nelson likes to shoot. It's worked, it's simple.

 

[Foppa2118]

Bedsy gonna tease us again with going back to
27-29-13
62-11-88

It's going to win us game 4,

Then another switcheroo.

Hey, I'll take one game of those lines, or Landy-Coyle-Val on the second line, at this point.

That and Drouin on the PP while he's clearly playing hurt, are the one thing I'd put blame on Bednar for. They should still have been able to win the last two games though.

 

[expatriatedtexan]

We'll have Coyle at 2C for the entire season next year, might as well try him now.

Bednar could do so, so much better simply by putting Necas with Nelson but let's go with your suggestion, this is how I'd try it:

Nelson-MacKinnon-Nichushkin​

Landeskog-Coyle-Necas​

Colton-Drury-Lehkonen​

Wood-Kelly-O'Connor​

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It sucks... but Drouin just doesn't fit in the bottom six, so he'd actually be the odd man out over Wood or Vesey. As an added bonus, it automatically takes him off the PP, which should help tremendously.

 

[expatriatedtexan]

Leaned back and laughed, outloud, for too long. A welcomed distraction this afternoon.

 

[NOTENOUGHRYJOTHINGS]

I think right now we really need the top 2 lines to produce offense since scoring against Dallas is really hard, then whatever we get from 3rd and 4th lines will be a bonus. I’d go with…

Lehky-Nate-Necas
Landy-Coyle-Val
Drouin-Nelson-Kivi
Kelly-Drury-LOC

Lehk Nate LOC
Colton Coyle Landy
Necas Nelson Nuke
Drouin Drury Kivi

I think we need to give Nate that are going to go hard to the net and also hustle back to make up for his stupidity and giveaways.

There's been some nice surprise offense from the bottom lines but for the most part the second and fourth haven't been scaring anyone.

Spread the talent. But more importantly spread the hard working skating guys. When the Avs are getting in on the forecheck and establishing zone presence they are giving the Dallas defense trouble.

And yes that's LOC on the top line and Nuke and Necas on the "third" line.

It may sound crazy. But I'm always right.

 

[expatriatedtexan]

Lehk Nate LOC
Colton Coyle Landy
Necas Nelson Nuke
Drouin Drury Kivi

I think we need to give Nate that are going to go hard to the net and also hustle back to make up for his stupidity and giveaways.

There's been some nice surprise offense from the bottom lines but for the most part the second and fourth haven't been scaring anyone.

Spread the talent. But more importantly spread the hard working skating guys. When the Avs are getting in on the forecheck and establishing zone presence they are giving the Dallas defense trouble.

And yes that's LOC on the top line and Nuke and Necas on the "third" line.

It may sound crazy. But I'm always right.

It's not nearly as dramatic if you wrote it out like this:

Lehky-Nate-LOC​

Necas-Nelson-Nuke​

Colton-Coyle-Landy​

Drouin-Drury-Kivi​

​

That actually looks like a reasonable lineup. Landy is offwing but he's played RW before. Some (me) think Drury still has a step offensively to take in his development. Playing with JD (a playmaker) and Kivi (scoring at a career high level) might not be a bad setup. Drury and Kivi are both good defensively and JD is at the least good enough to IQ wise to judge potential risk vs reward as the offensive guy and potential line driver (offensively).

 

[littletonhockeycoach]

Might want to watch it again. MacKinnon puts his stick on the blade of blackwell's stick and he takes a nosedive and it's called a penalty - weak ass call in a playoff game

Terrible take and that's why you're the only one blaming Blackwood. He made a great save on blackwell near the end of that 4 minute PP that extended into OT. He ALSO made an unbelievable save in OT in Game #2 as well.

Goaltending has not been the problem - not even f***ing close. Blackwood has been really good.

I don't buy that bullshit. He's able to take the puck and skate it up the ice pretty well - he tried 2 big time rushes from his own end and seems to be able to skate pretty well from what I can tell. So if he's 'injured', he's injured like draisaitl was injured for the loilers back in 2022 - where he's only injured when he's back-checking but can skate perfectly when he has a chance on offense.

I think it's actually pretty easy to blame Bednar. I don't think the Avs are not skating or not giving the appropriate effort. They are not being put in the best possible position to win a hockey game. They are not being asked by the coaching staff to do the things that are required to win hockey games in the f***ing playoffs.

They appear to be stubborn in the way they play which is why they are down 2 games to 1 in the series. Besides the bottom 2 lines, they seem to refuse to dump the puck in, skate hard, be first on pucks and take the body on the shittier stars d-men. (Is anyone really trying to make me believe that the Avs forwards cannot win a race to the corner against guys like lyabushkin, ceci or petrovic?)

It's the f***ING PLAYOFFS, you have to get dirty - work your ass off - take a lot of shots and get GREASY ASS GOALS with rebounds. YOU GOTTA f***ING WANT IT!​

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If the entire team cannot get that in their f***ing heads, then the top guys are fine with being the Washington Capitals with 1 Stanley Cup victory. Players like MacKinnon and Makar seem to be fine with that as their legacy while they enjoy their big, fat contracts.

For me that's the bottom line. I'm not seeing inspired play by either of those 2 guys.

Blackwood hasn't been terrible. In fact he's been quite good. Except in his choice of technique when confronted with the unexpected in both OT's. His reaction revealed a weakness to me. That's where my negative bad goaltending comment comes from. Both shots over his shoulder as he was immobile in a full butterfly. Makenzie admitted that he thought about coming out and playing the Game 2 OT situation.

I've studied enough goaltending, coached enough goaltending, paid more than enough out for my own son's goaltending education to remember that a tenders "in case of emergency" technique is to take away the on the ice opportunities and hope for the best up high. And make yourself as big in the net as possible.

It didn't work. The Stars (esp Seguin) knew where to go with the shot.

The refs have been watching for interference in this series. After Nukes goal, they were going to give the Avs extra special attention. MacK tried to get away with something innocently sneaky and it didn't work.

Ticky tac or not, that's my take.

 

[littletonhockeycoach]

I think right now we really need the top 2 lines to produce offense since scoring against Dallas is really hard, then whatever we get from 3rd and 4th lines will be a bonus. I’d go with…

Lehky-Nate-Necas
Landy-Coyle-Val
Drouin-Nelson-Kivi
Kelly-Drury-LOC

MacK and Necas has to be split up. Put Necas with Nelson. Somehow. Someway.

 

[the_fan]

I don't think it's smart to make a "leftovers" line.

It should be,

Drouin - Mack - Nuke
Lehky - Nelson - Necas
Landy - Coyle - Kiviranta
Kelly - Drury - LOC

I'm really not sure why Bednar is trying literally everything else but what has worked.

Necas likes to pass, Nelson likes to shoot. It's worked, it's simple.

I’m just thinking against a tough defensive Dallas team we should put the best offensive top 2 lines as possible so we can get some goals, and just have the 3rd 4th lines be solid defensively. Drouin and Nelson have been the quietest on the top 6, move them to 3rd line

 

[NOTENOUGHRYJOTHINGS]

Unfortunately this one is ending on a Seguin rebound.

See I'm never wrong. I did over estimate Blackwood and thought he would make the initial save but Seguin would get two or three more whacks at the puck. Because defending the front of the net is for low class teams.

It's not nearly as dramatic if you wrote it out like this:

Lehky-Nate-LOC​

Necas-Nelson-Nuke​

Colton-Coyle-Landy​

Drouin-Drury-Kivi​

​

That actually looks like a reasonable lineup. Landy is offwing but he's played RW before. Some (me) think Drury still has a step offensively to take in his development. Playing with JD (a playmaker) and Kivi (scoring at a career high level) might not be a bad setup. Drury and Kivi are both good defensively and JD is at the least good enough to IQ wise to judge potential risk vs reward as the offensive guy and potential line driver (offensively).

It's reflected as Coyle Landy are the second line because you put them out there with no hesitation. You can lean on them defensively or an offensive zone draw.

The NNN line depending on how they mesh you can't just keep rolling out. And if you need to shorten the bench they're the one who gets left out.