Ryan Reaves violent hit on Darnell Nurse. 5 min major + ejected (phone hearing scheduled)

[Armourboy]

As an aside, for fans of other teams, does your broadcast crew always push the suspension angle when one of your guys does something dodgy? Do they kind of make excuses (think Jack Edwards) or do they spend most of the intermission talking about what the supplemental discipline should be?

Same question for your play-by-play announcers.

Our PbP guy can't even use the right terminology let alone talk about suspensions. I mean he calls pucks off the glass " off the back board " and penalties " fouls ".

 

[All Mod Cons]

He has to play for the Leafs, that's punishment enough

Nope. Hefty suspension

 

[Fatass]

How so? Toronto is the biggest and best hockey market in the world. World class city as well.

Biggest hockey market? Yes. Best hockey market. No. All of Quebec takes that. They live and breathe hockey. As for the city as a place to live? Other than the cold, snowy winters, the hot humid summers, and the constant noise and congestion I guess it’s okay.

Our PbP guy can't even use the right terminology let alone talk about suspensions. I mean he calls pucks off the glass " off the back board " and penalties " fouls ".

Where is that?

 

[57special]

It didn't look that bad to me. Reaves didn't jump into him, raise his stick, or even his hands, and I don't even see how you can consider it a blind side hit. Also was in open ice, and nowhere near the boards. Reaves is a heavy, heavy hitter, but is usually oddly clean when he hits.

Years ago it would've been a no call, though sometimes, even back then, a clean hit would be called just because it was so hard, or the outcome so dire. I mean, how can Nurse not see him in that situation? Reaves is the size of a small truck, and he has to know he is in the area. Nurse is also a very large man, taller than Reaves, but he leaned down into the hit, making it worse.

 

[34]

Reaves had Nurse lined up and Nurse put himself in a vulnerable position. Obviously you cant make that much head contact in todays nhl and get away with it (5 min major appropriate) but I dont think the hit was 'dirty' on Reaves part.

Agree, Nurse is making almost $10 million a year and should know better than to come around the back of the net with your head down admiring the puck.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Reaves is a useless plug in today's NHL and has rocks for brains

he should get a few games....unfortunately that benefits the Leafs without him in the lineup

 

[GeeoffBrown]

Imagine if these people had seen Scott Stevens play - - they’d be demanding attempted murder charges be brought against Stevens for his hits in Kariya and Lindros.

Scott Stevens' hits on Kariya and Lindros would be specifically against the rules now

BTW these two Hall of Fame level players had their career trajectories altered by these hits. Probably cost them each hundreds of points off their final total. You can definitely see the NHL's motivation for the rule change

 

[Golden_Jet]

Looks like a perfectly clean hit to me. Nurse did well on selling it.

What was the clean part, the elbow/shoulder to the face and not hitting any part of the body first.
Is that the clean part?

 

[Anglesmith]

He's entirely allowed to make the hit here. Just have to hit the right shoulder. Avoiding the front shoulder on a hit like this is a smoking gun.

I was listening to some NHL network guy last week talking about the Jeannot suspension as indicating that players aren't allowed to make hits on the back check anymore. Realistically, they haven't imposed any new restrictions on when players are allowed to hit, only on how.

 

[ElLeetch]

There is about 5 seconds of real-world time there where Nurse never picked his head up once.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

He's entirely allowed to make the hit here. Just have to hit the right shoulder. Avoiding the front shoulder on a hit like this is a smoking gun.

I was listening to some NHL network guy last week talking about the Jeannot suspension as indicating that players aren't allowed to make hits on the back check anymore. Realistically, they haven't imposed any new restrictions on when players are allowed to hit, only on how.

This is a clean hit it he just hits him 6 inches to the left and goes shoulder to shoulder

 

[Anglesmith]

It didn't look that bad to me. Reaves didn't jump into him, raise his stick, or even his hands, and I don't even see how you can consider it a blind side hit. Also was in open ice, and nowhere near the boards. Reaves is a heavy, heavy hitter, but is usually oddly clean when he hits.

Years ago it would've been a no call, though sometimes, even back then, a clean hit would be called just because it was so hard, or the outcome so dire. I mean, how can Nurse not see him in that situation? Reaves is the size of a small truck, and he has to know he is in the area. Nurse is also a very large man, taller than Reaves, but he leaned down into the hit, making it worse.

There is no such thing as a blind side hit in the rules. That is a fan/media term like "predatory."

This is illegal because where he chooses to make contact amplifies head contact and a safer hit was available to Reaves by hitting straight through the body (via the front shoulder).

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

5 games minimum but knowing Parros it’ll be a high five.

Parros was punched in the face a million times so it probably will be a huge 5K fine.

 

[DarrylshutzSydor]

Nurse skating with his head down. Reaves needs to duck down low in order not to make contact with Nurse's head.

 

[All Mod Cons]

Parros was punched in the face a million times so it probably will be a huge 5K fine.

He gave that to OEL for doing absolutely nothing.

This will be more like the Rielly and Spezza suspensions where he throws the book at him.

 

[kilowatt]

its always the guys you most suspect

 

[Metroid]

Reeves getting suspended is a good thing. Get him outta the lineup

 

[JPT]

There is no such thing as a blind side hit in the rules. That is a fan/media term like "predatory."

This is illegal because where he chooses to make contact amplifies head contact and a safer hit was available to Reaves by hitting straight through the body (via the front shoulder).

The media and fans got it from the NHL, which did have language in a rule specifically outlawing blind-side hits to the head back in 2010. Since then the league has broadened the illegal hit to the head rule, though, and removed the language about lateral hitting.

 

[David Bruce Banner]

Not as bad or predatory as the Jeannot hit. But knowing the DoPS, he'll either get next to nothing or 10 games.

 

[Dingo]

Scott Stevens' hits on Kariya and Lindros would be specifically against the rules now

BTW these two Hall of Fame level players had their career trajectories altered by these hits. Probably cost them each hundreds of points off their final total. You can definitely see the NHL's motivation for the rule change

i wish i had gotten to see all the stars i grew up with play long, healthy careers. Yes, having been a fan since the mid late 80s I would definitely choose a game based around hockey skills being used as a path to victory rather than one based around injuring star players as a path to victory.

Like Reaves, its a no-brainer.

 

[13to40]

Sucks nurse got hurt , Reaves bares some responsibility for sure but it wasn’t egregious.

What is egregious is having been a hockey player all your life and still managing to attempt to round the net and skate up ice with possession and a full head of steam and your head down staring at your skates completely unaware that other players are trying to crush you.

I think Nurse should get 20 games for that absolutely mind numbing display of self destruction.

Also if you watch that clip and your first reaction is …. ”OMG Reaves deserves 50 games for that and call the cops to charge him with assault , no place for that derrr”

Instead of ….”What in the flying f*** is Nurse skating with his head down for”

Then please leave the hockeyverse and take up watching woman’s basketball or something. Some of us enjoy contact sports and we don’t need beta soy boys crying and screaming and ruining what is still the greatest game on earth.

Thanks

I used to absolutely rock people when I played contact hockey…. But the rules have changed and this is a dirty hit….

Nurse is the most grossly overpaid player in the league and with low hockey IQ. Your point of him putting himself in a bad situation with his head down is valid… doesn’t change the fact that it’s an illegal hit in this day and standard.

Suspendible offence 150%. Hit his head first. Had he hit him through his chest, might have been the hit of the decade.

This was a dirty play and you never want to see anyone get hurt on the ice, especially when it’s head/brain related.

 

[AvroArrow]

Easy suspension, probably gets 3-4 games for that. Sucks to see a guy get hurt like that. Any update on Nurse ?

You just can't make that hit, straight shoulder to head.

 

[hirawl]

You think passangers of a car shouldn't wear seatbelts? Your argument is on this level.

NHL rulebook is awfully unclear, but this is actually directly quoted from the rules:

"If the player returns to his players’ bench to be substituted for, he may only return to the ice during play with a helmet (with the chinstrap properly fastened). No player may exit the penalty bench duringplay without a helmet (with the chin strap properly fastened)."

And it mandates properly fastening the helmet's strap. But for whatever reason, it doesn't generally state that the helmet's strap needs to be properly fastened. Only within the context of returning to play from the bench or the penalty box.

Either way, assuming Nurse was sitting on the bench at some point before that, his helmet's strap should have been fastened according to the rulebook.

More important than the rulebook, it should have been fastened for the player's own personal safety.

Reaves got him with his shoulder straight on the chin with some significant force. That makes the guys brains go ping pong mushy mushy inside the skull. Get you helmet strap and seatbelt shit TFO.

 

[Dickie Dunn]

I expected worse then watched it a couple more times. Definitely targets the head. Wish the NHL could get rid of him.

 

[Enniskillen]

It's always ironic that players are expected to fight after clean hits.

Yet when Reaves makes an arguably dirty hit and knocks your player out, no one looks twice at him.

Not a single oiler looked at his direction. Bunch of p.ssies.