MessierII
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That’s a fairly standard starting goalie these days no? Ulmark literally won the vezna with 49 GP.
Player Discussion Ryan Nugent-Hopkins: The Silent Beast
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brentashton
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But, but, but the Soviet National Team and CSKA Moscow weren’t “pro” hockey so Sergei was a legitimate choice. Right?
Stupid NHL.
True, didn't realise that both him and Shesty in 2022 had so few starts.
I take everything back and demand a retroactive Calder for Skinner!
Another post season Houdini act out of our beloved RNH.
2 goals in his last 20 playoff games going back to last years playoffs.
Shades of a late career Jason Allison out there. Good at leeching off an all time PP. Useless at pretty much everything else.
2 goals in his last 20 playoff games going back to last years playoffs.
Shades of a late career Jason Allison out there. Good at leeching off an all time PP. Useless at pretty much everything else.
Bryanbryoil
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At this rate in the playoffs he is an elite special teams player and a low impact ES forward. It is what it is. We aren't paying him to be a Draisaitl level of player. When we have a 3rd pairing defenseman making $9.25 million and a goalie making $5 million to be sitting in the minors, Nuge is not a major issue cap wise.
He's the 5th most important guy on the pp. I remember when everyone was so worried Barrie would be irreplaceable and Bouchard far exceeded with his bombs.
He does nothing great and is our Mitch marner when it comes to playoffs.
He does nothing great and is our Mitch marner when it comes to playoffs.
Hey! He proved me wrong. Way to go Nuge. Big last few games. Keep it up.
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Stoneman89
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It took a few years, but Nuge has finally taken a huge step and certified himself in the playoffs, by fire. Tonight solidified it, and I hope he can now continue on this path.
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McDavid's comment was the same thing every coach he has ever had has said...."Even when he is not producing he does so many little things that help you win"... I said this before, but not bad for a ghost. And yet if the Oilers lose a game next series there is a pretty decent chance he will be a target once again.
I found it pretty telling that we have our two best players were pretty quick to defend the bottom six in media appearances, and I don't think it's just cliche "gotta stick up for teammates" sort of way.
Kind of seeing it with McDavid who I think did struggle (especially for his standard) in the past games, but even just the highlight reel has him putting pressure on the opposition that just didn't result in goals.
The Nuge
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And all while being on an absolutely insanely team friendly deal. People complain about him even when he’s PPG+, but he’s our 7th highest paid player.
I agree with all this - though there are times where the criticism is warranted. If McDavid and/or Draisaitl has an off night, it shouldn't be crazy for us to expect him to step up and take over as the offensive leader every once in a while. When the team is firing and he's just quietly going about his business, it's all good, but sometimes I get frustrated that on an off-night for the big guys, he also struggles to get much going. I think it's reasonable to feel this way - just because he's on a team-friendly deal and has good overall production doesn't mean he shouldn't be able to come through with a big goal a bit more often than he has been.
He did the job in game 7. Not meant to be a "dump on RNH" post - just one to point out that being on a team-friendly deal doesn't mean he shouldn't be expected to pick up 29 and 97's slack at certain times.
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The Nuge
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To an extent I agree, but the difference between Nuge having an off night and say Kane having an off night is Nuge still goes out and plays the shutdown role, and leads our PK. Even his off nights you’re still benefiting from having him in the lineup
TheNumber4
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Nuge saving his best for the playoffs. I knew he was phoning it in this year.
Behind Enemy Lines
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Hey guys, Sens fan here; I come in peace! Can any of you guys explain Nuge's one-off random 100 point season last season? This season he reverted back to his norm...Where did that 100 points come from?
Aerchon
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There is one knock on Nuge that has been discussed/speculated. His off season training. He uses his brother as his coach and it doesn't have the high profile intensity that many other players have going into camp like joining biosteel or whatever.
Prior to the 100 point season nuge worked on his shot all summer was the word if inremember correctly. It was a very noticeable improvement and a big part of his 100 point year imo.
Nuge gets praise and rightly so. He is one of my all time favs. Loved watching him in junior. But he pays attention to the small details on the ice "almost to a fualt". That has been said many many times in his career.
If Nuge focused on offense more. Trained more for that aspect of his game... I don't feel I'm exagerating when I say he could have more 100 point seasons under his belt. He just typically doesn't push for offense like most other players.
Drivesaitl
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Bringing it more at the biggest time of the year absolves a season that was lacklustre production wise. Nuge is so talented and thinks the game so well. He has the tools to be a perennial allstar. Sometimes he's a bit shy it seems in going for that.
he's got it all, its hard to explain but he wants to hang back a bit. Would've been interesting to see if thats still case withough McDrai. Not sure. What would Nuge look like as a best player on his team. he would be potentially on some teams. Looking at his first 5 seasons I'm not sure thats where it was tracking. But with man strength coming to him later he appears to be dominant now at times.
he's got it all, its hard to explain but he wants to hang back a bit. Would've been interesting to see if thats still case withough McDrai. Not sure. What would Nuge look like as a best player on his team. he would be potentially on some teams. Looking at his first 5 seasons I'm not sure thats where it was tracking. But with man strength coming to him later he appears to be dominant now at times.
Jimmi McJenkins
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Nuge got 100 pts last year, and this is still the best he's ever played in the league. He's been amazing.
KeithIsActuallyBad
SPEEN!
I want to see McDavid hand the cup to this guy so badly.
Like, as much as I wanted to see Iggy get to lift it.
Like, as much as I wanted to see Iggy get to lift it.
How bad has Nuge been? On pace for 52 points while riding shotgun with Mcdavid. He's dragging the PP down, not noticeable 5 v 5 and will probably disappear in the playoffs.
He needs to be moved down to the 3rd line.
He needs to be moved down to the 3rd line.
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