Ryan Hartman Match Penalty for "Attempt to Injure" on Tim Stützle

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This is probably the first thread I've ever seen where literally everyone agrees on something (it's 100% suspension worthy and wasn't a hockey play).

Kinda nice to see.

It also helps that we've seen Hartman play before. All it takes is a couple games to make you unsurprised by this.
 
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...so it was a wrestling work with fake blood??... :dunno:
Nah. Hartsy wanted to push Stützle down, Stützle wanted to dive. Both combined their forces and the movement going into the same direction led to the hard impact.
Unfortunate for both but luckily not with any serious results.
The Sens would‘ve won either way and Hartman for sure needs to rest.
 
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Dumb choice that he sits for. I don’t think he meant for the result though. He was shoving him down and was making sure he got down. He assumed he wasn’t going to end up putting him face first in the ice and was wrong so he sits.
 
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its not just that it was dirty.

it was clearly pre intent. he was running around like a lunatic
I will caveat this with I did not watch the game however…

It seems it could pre meditated given that only 6 minutes earlier, Stu had a 2 for slashing, and Hartman had 2 for roughing and 2 for embellishment.
 
I know I'm going to sound ridiculous to some, but they need to really throw the whole book at him.

You can't penalize this too lightly. The man legitimately pressed his weight straight onto his opponent's head/neck with force and intent.

A 5 game or less suspension may encourage other lowlife goons to do this to other stars as a last resort.

The league should be starting this suspension with a two digit number starting with a 2, minimum.

We do not want to see another Moore.
 
Suspended twice last season and fined once.
Suspended once in 2023 and fined once.

Pretty much been fined at least once going all the way back to 2021. He'd probably have that streak dating all the way back to 2017 if not for a couple of shortened seasons.

Just give him the rest of the season off. It really doesn't hurt Minny since he looks like he forgot how to play hockey this season anyways.
 
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Hartman is actually smaller I thought but more facetious than sarcastic


i mean the whole Tkachuk family dodges bigger fighters so that's not exactly a tactic unique to Hartman.
Matt maybe but Brady?
he's also skated away from larger fighters. Hartman, i'm positive, has fought someone larger than himself and I'd never try pretending he wasn't a spot picking shit.

That's not called dodging. It's called listening to the pleas of his coaching staff.

Not alot of big fighters in the NHL that have a symmetrical trade off for a 5 min penalty with Brady.
 
In any other sports league this kind of play would have Hartman suspended for the rest of the season. I have no idea why the NHL is like this.
 
In any other sports league this kind of play would have Hartman suspended for the rest of the season. I have no idea why the NHL is like this.
Agree. I have defended many players, home and away, for shit that happens at high speed. People generally don't understand how fast the game is and many knees, elbows, late/high hits and hits from behind are actually the product of a fast physical game.

That being said, this is not a hockey play, it's just plain assault. He should get 41 games and 82 for the next "clear intent to injure" suspension. Especially considering his repeat offenders status.

Losing 10-20% of his career earning might actually keep a mouth breather like this in check.
 
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