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RW/LW Vasili Podkolzin - SKA-Neva St.Petersburg, VHL (2019, 10th, VAN)

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Is a slower Andreas Athanasiou with a better shot a good comparison?

Stylistically I think they're pretty similar.
 
NickH8 said:
What I use to describe him to wings fans is speed and skill of Athanasiou and the grit and defense of Bertuzzi.
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That's pretty accurate, I think. I don't think he's as fast as AA though, but I do think he's got a much better shot.
 
Pavel Buchnevich said:
A lot more skill. Strange comparison. Aside from generating their offense off the rush, their games aren't similar.
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Andreas Athanasiou is incredibly skilled, his hands are among the best in the league.

I think the difference is Podkolzin's work ethic and feistiness, both of which AA lack. Podkolzin's shot is also better.

Stylistically, I'd say they're pretty similar though.
 
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ConnorMcMullet said:
Andreas Athanasiou is incredibly skilled, his hands are among the best in the league.

I think the difference is Podkolzin's work ethic and feistiness, both of which AA lack. Podkolzin's shot is also better.

Stylistically, I'd say they're pretty similar though.
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How skilled can a player be whose in his prime and has a career PPG average of about .5PPG? Is Athanasiou the most unlucky player in the game with having his skill translate to points and he has 60-70 point talent? Not a bad player by any means, but I don't think anyone's drafting Podkolzin and hoping he turns into a .5PPG player. If that was the case, he wouldn't go in the top 25.
 
Pavel Buchnevich said:
How skilled can a player be whose in his prime and has a career PPG average of about .5PPG? Is Athanasiou the most unlucky player in the game with having his skill translate to points and he has 60-70 point talent? Not a bad player by any means, but I don't think anyone's drafting Podkolzin and hoping he turns into a .5PPG player. If that was the case, he wouldn't go in the top 25.
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I used AA as a comparison stylistically, not in terms of potential.

I said that they play a similar game but Podkolzin is more physical, better defensively, and has a superior shot. I think he'll end up the better player.

I have him at 7 behind Kakko, Hughes, Dach, Turcotte, Byram, and Zegras.
 
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ConnorMcMullet said:
I used AA as a comparison stylistically, not in terms of potential.

I said that they play a similar game but Podkolzin is more physical, better defensively, and has a superior shot. I think he'll end up the better player.

I have him at 7 behind Kakko, Hughes, Dach, Turcotte, Byram, and Zegras.
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That's like comparing Hughes to a player like Drouin. Lazy and horrible comparison
 
Legend123 said:
That's like comparing Hughes to a player like Drouin. Lazy and horrible comparison
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Why? I said he plays a similar game. For example, Newhook stylistically is similar to McDavid. Did I say he is going to be as good a player?

Out of curiosity, who do you think a good comparison is for Podkolzin?
 
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ConnorMcMullet said:
I'm sorry, but I don't really see that (assuming you mean Gallagher). They both work hard, but the similarities kind of end there. Podkolzin's points come off the rush, not the cycle.
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Gally is quite good off the rush dude. Pod is also elite along the boards like gally.
Not perfect comparables but one in which I see to some degree
 
I don’t know if they are that similar stylistically. Athanasiou’s best asset is his speed. Podkolzin doesn’t have great speed. He’s a much better stickhandler, passer and shooter than Athanasiou. Both are similar in that their hockey IQ’s aren’t great and they don’t play the most cerebral games. Most of their offense comes off the rush.
 
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Pavel Buchnevich said:
I don’t know if they are that similar stylistically. Athanasiou’s best asset is his speed. Podkolzin doesn’t have great speed. He’s a much better stickhandler, passer and shooter than Athanasiou. Both are similar in that their hockey IQ’s aren’t great and they don’t play the most cerebral games. Most of their offense comes off the rush.
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Agree that Athanasiou's hockey IQ is his greatest flaw.
 
Yep, so the playoffs are rolling about, 1 point in 7 games in VHL playoffs... VHL is a weaker league than Liiga BTW.

Still don't get why he's ranked where he is, not in my top 10.
 
ijuka said:
Yep, so the playoffs are rolling about, 1 point in 7 games in VHL playoffs... VHL is a weaker league than Liiga BTW.

Still don't get why he's ranked where he is, not in my top 10.
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He averaged 7:48 in ice time per game in the playoffs. 3 of the games he barely played. It's not as strong as Liiga but it's also not nearly as friendly to young players.
 
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ijuka said:
Yep, so the playoffs are rolling about, 1 point in 7 games in VHL playoffs... VHL is a weaker league than Liiga BTW.

Still don't get why he's ranked where he is, not in my top 10.
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Well, not such a bad stats for someone getting around 7 minutes of icetime per game.
 
I think there’s a big risk involved in drafting a player who doesn’t play for the first team and still can’t even get big minutes. That’s not to say Podkolzin isn’t good enough to play a bigger role, but can you trust that SKA will develop him well? His lack of minutes can’t be good for his development.
 
Pavel Buchnevich said:
I think there’s a big risk involved in drafting a player who doesn’t play for the first team and still can’t even get big minutes. That’s not to say Podkolzin isn’t good enough to play a bigger role, but can you trust that SKA will develop him well? His lack of minutes can’t be good for his development.
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Better off going where, AHL?
 
If he won't be getting minutes they will just send him to Sochi. That should be the least of anyone's worries.
 
Pavel Buchnevich said:
How skilled can a player be whose in his prime and has a career PPG average of about .5PPG? Is Athanasiou the most unlucky player in the game with having his skill translate to points and he has 60-70 point talent? Not a bad player by any means, but I don't think anyone's drafting Podkolzin and hoping he turns into a .5PPG player. If that was the case, he wouldn't go in the top 25.
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I watch Athanasiou often, as he and Larkin are really the only players on my team worth watching (maybe Bertuzzi as well, but he won't wow you). He has a ton of raw skill, just doesn't think the game well enough. Sometimes he tries to do everything himself and force plays, and he really isn't good in his own end at all.
 

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