RW/LW Klim Kostin (2017, 31st, STL, traded to EDM)
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This may just me being super picky because I think he's a top prospect and I love his decision to continue playing domestically and hopefully in the KHL at some point soon but he looks just a tad bit heavy, tad bit labored on the feet, little bit inefficient as a skater. Great set up by Rubstov, both with the skating and the vision.
He wasn't trying to go fast, he wasn't putting any effort I wouldn't read to much into that video.
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Can someone who follows hockey in Russia compare him (in talent level) to other Russian-developed top draftees in previous years like Nichushkin, Buchnevich etc?
Heavy and labored isn't slow. I'm more thinking inefficient. Given his speed and acceleration he appeared to be putting a little more effort in than optimal.
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He is similar to Rubtsov while being a winger of course. Might pan out a bigger talent than Buchnevich, but it's too early. Size hinders evaluation. For now he is a man among boys in his age group. Remains to be seen how he handles the jumps to next levels where opposition's size and skill will be much closer to his.
Steve Kournianos
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Kostin is a complete player. A meaner Puljujarvi. He was noticeable every shift albeit in a bottom-6 role. Easily a top-5 pick at this point, and rising. He was excellent in Hodonin.
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GoBoltz56
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Wow, good thing he stayed in Russia for all that ice time and exposure! Perfect for his development.
His debut, but if he doesn't get more ice time than that he might as well come be the best player on his team in the WHL.
GoBoltz56
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You do not think playing less than 3 minutes in a game is an issue for a 17 year old's development? Any hockey player will tell you, game minutes are completely different than training, practice etc. and nothing can prepare you for them except actually playing.
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No! Never! Any NA player maybe, not any Russian player.
Happens all the time in the KHL. Golyshev played 9 minutes a game for a whole season as an 18 yo, Gusev played about 20 games in his 18/19 y/o seasons at 7 minutes a game, Korshkov a season under 7 minutes a game. These guys are now some of the brightest young stars in the KHL and soon the NHL. Slow, steady, skill development, adaption, sponging off savvy pro veterans all part of the process in KHL rather than the impatient NA attitude ie. if guy doesn't score 40 goals in CHL than he is not developing properly.
KHL management is giving him a taste and a small opportunity in mens hockey. He will then likely be shipped to the VHL I would assume as he likely can handle it and get a more significant role there. If he is struggling there he can go back to the MHL and dominate. Then next season if he is a capable KHL regular but cant crack DYM deep roster, he can get loaned out to weaker KHL team (has been highly successful strategy for several high profile young KHL guys see Gusev, Tkachev, Paigin etc.). Basically he has the ability to toggle between 3 leagues, how is there better option than that! I would rather have this option 1000x before shipping him to the CHL, where if something isn't working out for whatever reason- "player is not good, cant handle NA hockey, weaker than expected etc..."
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Fantomas
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No, I don't think it's an issue for a player's development. But if this was a year-round thing, I would perhaps be concerned.
This is a ridiculous topic that has spread like a bad rash ever since Dallas Stars fans went crazy over Guryanov's icetime (as a way of denying the simple fact that he sucks).
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Deep down I think this recent trend about icetime (sadly reinforced by one of the worst hockey writers currently active - Cory Pronman) reflects the inability of American posters to wrap their head around the fact that coaches outside of US and Canada can make good decisions for their players. Another Americentric phobia of anything foreign.
"Bring him him to the AHL", they yell. That shimmering paradise.
"Bring him him to the AHL", they yell. That shimmering paradise.
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How's is that any different from "Russians are ruined by playing in Canada." Neither side is phobia-free.
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It's different because the "Russians are ruined by Canada" idea has a strong base, and "Russians don't develop in the KHL because Kostin didn't play a lot in his 1st game!" is weak, short-sighted and stupid.
Kostin has 8 career MHL goals. He's 17 years old. He can be a very good player one day, but if he isn't a KHL level player right now, he shouldn't and won't play a lot. At least not right away. And if he is going to play in the MHL, getting several tastes of the KHL at least is really good for a player's development.
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Says you, but there's no strong base in either opinion. They're both based on stereotypes and biases about either sides hockey systems.
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Milos Krasic
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Kostin scored the shootout winner for Dynamo today.
No video yet, but here's the box score:
http://en.khl.ru/game/405/49655/protocol/
No video yet, but here's the box score:
http://en.khl.ru/game/405/49655/protocol/
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