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RW Kasperi Kapanen (2014, 22nd, PIT; traded to TOR)

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IHaveNoCreativity said:
I think Sprong is a better prospect.

The issues are: He's Dutch, they have a me first mentality which hinders thier soccer team and well thier own progress at times and that's just their culture. I think that really really rubs people the wrong way, and I think that mentality makes people question how he'll adapt to the pro game because ther Dutch mentality is about personal success first.

Daniels dad is nuts. Daniel didn't play Midget AAA in Quebec because the local team wouldn't invite him to camp due to a rift between the dad and the coaches. He's apparently very involved in Daniels career.

It almost seems like the Pens chose between to boom or bust propects.

I geuss Kapanen is a safer bet for the Leafs because I don't think there's attitude problems.
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I found your posts about it in 2012...it's been 3yrs, I see no issues about it now and Sprong probably has that under control.

The funniest thing is in 2012, people said he was like Kessel and they said he was this year as well as a comparison.

Now we have Kessel and a potential version of him.

Everything is coming up Milhouse!
 
Signed said:
I dont consider Kapanen a grade A prospect. He has excellent vision. His IQ is high but his skating isnt very good for a player that small.

If he improves he can avoid being a PP specialist.
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He's a great skater, and he's listed at like 6'0, 6'1. How's that small? He's not Mats Sundin, but how is anyone over the 6'0 range considered small?
 
Honour Over Glory said:
I found your posts about it in 2012...it's been 3yrs, I see no issues about it now and Sprong probably has that under control.

The funniest thing is in 2012, people said he was like Kessel and they said he was this year as well as a comparison.

Now we have Kessel and a potential version of him.

Everything is coming up Milhouse!
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I think Daneil will be fine. It's the dad that Id be worried about over the next few years. At some point if not already Daniel will definitely have it under control.
 
IHaveNoCreativity said:
I think Daneil will be fine. It's the dad that Id be worried about over the next few years. At some point if not already Daniel will definitely have it under control.
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If it was of any concern at all, it would have been mentioned. O'Sullivan's dad was mentioned right away when he was drafted and he was definitely nuts.

Daniel's dad was an issue, 3yrs ago. Since then, I have not heard a peep. The only issue I have ever read about him is his attempt at getting on the Canadian team with his citizenship stuff because it would be the best for him and his future, that's about it. Kid is a talent, and yeah I like him more than Kapanen as well, not to say I didn't like Kap, I really liked Kap and his boom or bust potential, haven't had one of those in a higher end type in a while.

I have naught concerns about that.
 
Smif said:
I'm sure he looked him up on hockeydb.com which still has him at 5.10 / 171.
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Last year's Pens' roster listed him at 6'0 and 181 lbs. So he's definitely not small. Slender and needs to put on a good 10 or 15 pounds, sure. But he's not small.
 
Signed said:
I dont consider Kapanen a grade A prospect. He has excellent vision. His IQ is high but his skating isnt very good for a player that small.

If he improves he can avoid being a PP specialist.
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:laugh: Thanks for letting everyone know that you've never seen him play.
 
He is also quite the character and tough nut. Im sure he and Toronto media will have a blast. His gotten used to the media spotlight backhome as his 3rd generation as his grandfather Hannu Kapanen and father Sami Kapanen are legends atleast in Finnish hockey. Theyre called the Kapanen clan as kings of Kalpa and Kuopio. Same city that Kimmo Timonen is from and where he will bring Stanley Cup for display this summer. Kasperi got a lot stick and was singled out for blame in media/fanbase after 2 strikes first bad u18 showing last year and u20 failure this year. In liiga there was games where he played superman and only did coast to coast runs all game long withouth even thinking of passing. When he is forced and puts his mind he can be great defensivily specially in backchecking stripping away pucks and physically by tackling. Looked superb in Pittsburgh last preseason running the powerplay on left dot but yet again horrible in wjc same position. Other than the 2 bad tournaments recently he was dominant in youth olympics 2012 when finland won the gold and scored game winning goal against russia in shootout in final. Was also part and on line with Lehkonen Teräväinen in some games at Lake Placid 2013 for the team that won WJC gold in Malmö 2014 but missed the tournament because of injury. Great skater and used european big ice surface to great advantage quite frightening for defensman when faced with full speed Kasperi. Pretty wicked wrister aswell and can dangle on traffic. Yes reminds a bit of Kessel with lower fat percentage. Also his the best english speaking finnish player out there due years spend in philly. Spends this summer training in Kuopio with his fathers. Looking forward to not seeing passing between him and Nylander.
 
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IHaveNoCreativity said:
I think Sprong is a better prospect.

The issues are: He's Dutch, they have a me first mentality which hinders thier soccer team and well thier own progress at times and that's just their culture. I think that really really rubs people the wrong way, and I think that mentality makes people question how he'll adapt to the pro game because ther Dutch mentality is about personal success first.

Daniels dad is nuts. Daniel didn't play Midget AAA in Quebec because the local team wouldn't invite him to camp due to a rift between the dad and the coaches. He's apparently very involved in Daniels career.

It almost seems like the Pens chose between to boom or bust propects.

I geuss Kapanen is a safer bet for the Leafs because I don't think there's attitude problems.
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As a Leafs fan I would prefer Kapanen. He's more creative with the puck. I really like Sprong though. He's a great pick in the second round.

But as a leafs fan you have to take the more talented prospect (Kapanen)
 
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x-Matthews?-marner
x-kadri-Kapanen/nylander
very nice top 6 but i think kapanen or nylander will hve too play on the off wing. A big Centre and i think they are set (can always get a LW like belesky etc from FA) and for the record i dont think marner will be that good at centre and is better suited at winger
Leafs should start concentrating on defense and stockpiling defensive prospects
 
flamesforcup said:
x-Matthews?-marner
x-kadri-Kapanen/nylander
very nice top 6 but i think kapanen or nylander will hve too play on the off wing. A big Centre and i think they are set (can always get a LW like belesky etc from FA) and for the record i dont think marner will be that good at centre and is better suited at winger
Leafs should start concentrating on defense and stockpiling defensive prospects
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Nylanders preferred wing is LW.
 
Very excited for the marlies next year

Leivo - Nylander - Kapanen
Leipsic - Gauthier - Brown
Rupert - Verhaeghe - Hyman
 
Anyone know how he compares to Rantenen only 3 months older but outpaced him marginally . also I've heard people compare him to a young Hossa is this a a fair one looking for people who have seen him play preferable a fin
 
Gamble9 said:
Anyone know how he compares to Rantenen only 3 months older but outpaced him marginally . also I've heard people compare him to a young Hossa is this a a fair one looking for people who have seen him play preferable a fin
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Rantanen is on another level compared to Kapanen. A big winger who can force his way to the net, play solid two way game and is a fantastic playmaker. The only things they have in common are being good to great skaters and both having great hands. Kapanen is faster of course and might have slight edge with the stick but other than that it's Rantanen all the way.

Didn't see Hossa play at that age so can't comment there.
 
Brewsky said:
Marner - CAN
Nylander - SWE
Kapanen - FIN
Matthews? - US

We just need some Czech and Russians.
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Dermott, Bracco, the Swedish Dman, the latvian forward, all have good chances of making their respective teams as well.
 
kelsier said:
Rantanen is on another level compared to Kapanen. A big winger who can force his way to the net, play solid two way game and is a fantastic playmaker. The only things they have in common are being good to great skaters and both having great hands. Kapanen is faster of course and might have slight edge with the stick but other than that it's Rantanen all the way.

Didn't see Hossa play at that age so can't comment there.
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Kapanen is elite skater, Rantanen is "just" good skater. The biggest advantage Rantanen has over Kapanen is his play without the puck.
 
snizzbone said:
Could he make the team? Thought he almost made the Pens last year.
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I think it's best for his development to spend time in the AHL. He needs to work some things out and build his confidence at lower levels first. He might not be there all year though.

Gamble9 said:
Anyone know how he compares to Rantenen only 3 months older but outpaced him marginally . also I've heard people compare him to a young Hossa is this a a fair one looking for people who have seen him play preferable a fin
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He's more like a poor man's Kessel.
 
Why do people keep saying hes like Kessel / he sucks defensively? Every scouting report I've read says he is a two-way player, who can be very good defensively when he tries to be. The issue is that he doesn't always give his all defensively, but hes very capable.
 
snizzbone said:
Why do people keep saying hes like Kessel / he sucks defensively? Every scouting report I've read says he is a two-way player, who can be very good defensively when he tries to be. The issue is that he doesn't always give his all defensively, but hes very capable.
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Couldn't you say the same about Kessel? I mean if Kessel wanted to with his IQ and quickness he could be a good defensive player.
 
snizzbone said:
Why do people keep saying hes like Kessel / he sucks defensively? Every scouting report I've read says he is a two-way player, who can be very good defensively when he tries to be. The issue is that he doesn't always give his all defensively, but hes very capable.
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Because people don't know how to properly compare player styles. Kapanen looks nothing like Kessel when he plays. People read "offensively gifted" and "leaves you wanting more defensively" and immediately think of someone who is all offense and no defence to compare. Actually watching the two players it is very clear that they look and play very different games.

Sprong is definitely more comparable to Kessel stylistically, not so much Kapanen.
 
Hennig said:
Couldn't you say the same about Kessel? I mean if Kessel wanted to with his IQ and quickness he could be a good defensive player.
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Kessel has never shown that he can be a good defensive player. From what I've read about Kapanen, that is not the case. He just doesn't always give his all defensively.
 
Another garbage prospect to the Leafs...

We gave up an elite Sniper for hot garbage... literally nothing. Pathetic.
 
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