RW Kaapo Kakko - TPS, Liiga (2019 Draft) Part 5
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If you were merely claiming the Devils were more successful you would have an argument based off more Cups/year or something, however you said;
which is just shitposting
god bless that the #1 and #2 picks isn't something like Bruins and Leafs somehow. The hellfire would be endlessWas thinking bout using Matthews/Laine here, but for all of our mental healths sakes decided not to
Henkka
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Can't wait on next game, It's Finland-USA on monday.
I expect huge game from Hughes.
I expect huge game from Hughes.
Coincidence or not, no American has ever went 2nd overall after a European player, and 3rd just once.
The Mighty Duck Man
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These kind of milestones seem to be set every year, so if not this year(and I dont think it will), it'll happen soon enough.
But that wasnt what I was referring to. The Devils don't and cant be bothered by what USA Hockey wants, they have to do what's best by them. They won't pass on Kakko simply because Hughes has had years of hype. Guys get hyped all the time and it doesn't always last.
Just to say that when two (or more) top prospects are broadly on par many organizations seem to have a tendency to pick American over European. For a European to go first he might have to be decisively better to be considered the more desirable future face of the franchise.
behemolari
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The mod that locked the thread said in the post that something in the world championships need to happen to change the consensus on 1st OA for the thread to open.
As long as Hughes is the consensus 1OA, you shouldn't publicly talk about Kakko on the Devils' board. You can however use private messages for those purposes though.
Devils will pick Hughes, they can not afford to overlook a potential American superstar no matter how much better Kaapo would be. All Hughes needs is chance to be a superstar, right now he has a realistic chance.
The #1 goal of any team, apart from Lefs and Habs - is to sell tickets, hyped up US #1 overall pick does that better than european #1.
Now for all the media doing stories back and forth - it’s about trying to catch attention, clicks, ad impressions.
Now can we rather focus on the prospect, skills, promise etc than going back and forth on the endless Hughes-Kakko rivalry?
The #1 goal of any team, apart from Lefs and Habs - is to sell tickets, hyped up US #1 overall pick does that better than european #1.
Now for all the media doing stories back and forth - it’s about trying to catch attention, clicks, ad impressions.
Now can we rather focus on the prospect, skills, promise etc than going back and forth on the endless Hughes-Kakko rivalry?
olop
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As a Finn all I can say is that you'll learn to ignore some of the Finnish members . They just like to hype and argue for arguments sake. They will ignore parts of others' posts and twist your words and what you mean just for the sake of the feeling of being right. And if they're wrong they vanish.
Wish we could just enjoy having to see top tier prospects developing into superstars.
Still before they have really added any top class players, it’s just talk and kind of a fantasy.
And although Q has some great merits from the past, he seems to have a bit fallen off the wagon with the recent tendencies of the NHL game. An old very stubborn coach in a similar mold as Babcock (whom is massively overrated as a coach), whom might even be able to have a very positive effect with a team like Florida. But to count on it as a sure thing is a bit naive honestly. They will definitely need to fix their defence with better defencemen.
Well at least exchanging one of the worst coaches in the NHL to Q should anyway be at least some kind of an upgrade - even despite him being a stubborn old dog with not much of new tricks.
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Henkka
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Yep. Business-side will matter on this draft. Kakko could be BPA, but Hughes sells more jerseys.
American organization can't pass Hughes. If Canadian team would have won the lottery, Kakko would go 1st.
The Cannon of Tesoma
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Rather impressive Kaapo hype going on all around today.
Organization/organisation
Nitpicking over the difference of words in translation using literal meaning of noun elin 'organ', when you note that elin can be used also as neutral term for a genitals (men's or women's, but usually men). One must be really "dick" to point out such obvious semantic meaning of
Elimellistys/elimellistyttämistö
Easy. If you want to be really cool and cocky, you can of course change last s of first word to z to make it sound more cool. Everyone understand it easily regardless.
More difficult thing for casual anglophones seems to be the difference between words "to" and "too" in correctly written English.
Amazing what kind plot twist we can invent and generate to the Kaapo Kakko thread #5.
Organization/organisation
Nitpicking over the difference of words in translation using literal meaning of noun elin 'organ', when you note that elin can be used also as neutral term for a genitals (men's or women's, but usually men). One must be really "dick" to point out such obvious semantic meaning of
Elimellistys/elimellistyttämistö
Easy. If you want to be really cool and cocky, you can of course change last s of first word to z to make it sound more cool. Everyone understand it easily regardless.
More difficult thing for casual anglophones seems to be the difference between words "to" and "too" in correctly written English.
Amazing what kind plot twist we can invent and generate to the Kaapo Kakko thread #5.
Isä ja ex-valmentajat kertovat: Tällainen on Leijonien nuoren supertähden Kaapo Kakon koko upea tarina - katso suloiset kuvat pikku-Kaaposta!
Some stuff about Kaapo from his parents and old coaches.
- He has always been better than others in his age group. He has been playing against older people from juniors
- When he was young, he build shooting area to his yard and was constantly shooting pucks in there.
- He has ring really close to him and you can find him there practically every night just playing around, skating and practising.
- He is very humble and plays for the team. He doesn't like that people praise him. He wants to win for team.
- There was moment last autumn, where TPS didn't have game at saturday night, so Kakko went to TPS A-juniors locker room and asked who wants to come play hockey around 9.00-10.00 p.m. while everyone else were ready to go have some Saturday night fun (probably drinking).
- He is much like Mikko Rantanen. You can say both to them: "Hey there is a game tomorrow, wanna come play?" And they both would go.
- He really really wants and likes to win. He is competitive as f***.
Some stuff about Kaapo from his parents and old coaches.
- He has always been better than others in his age group. He has been playing against older people from juniors
- When he was young, he build shooting area to his yard and was constantly shooting pucks in there.
- He has ring really close to him and you can find him there practically every night just playing around, skating and practising.
- He is very humble and plays for the team. He doesn't like that people praise him. He wants to win for team.
- There was moment last autumn, where TPS didn't have game at saturday night, so Kakko went to TPS A-juniors locker room and asked who wants to come play hockey around 9.00-10.00 p.m. while everyone else were ready to go have some Saturday night fun (probably drinking).
- He is much like Mikko Rantanen. You can say both to them: "Hey there is a game tomorrow, wanna come play?" And they both would go.
- He really really wants and likes to win. He is competitive as f***.
FinPanda
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Good to see someone else saw the article and was willing to translate it. You did a lot better job than I did (or would have done).
I added your great work to the OP.
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Soo again, did not get an answer for it jet. Is Kakko the youngest guy in history to score hattrick at WC?
The Cannon of Tesoma
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Couldn't find exact article, but I saw such claim in some article today in Finnish media that this is indeed the case. You know, there are quite lot of stuff and news about Kaapo Kakko.
DoubleGold
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He's a tier above everyone else when it comes to Finnish prospects; a freak of nature when you think how physically mature he is for his age. Calder material from the get-go.
One of my work buddies have heard me discuss hughes and kakko at the job, we are also old buddies. However he wrote to me after usa - slovakia game smth like "I dont think Hughes is that good, looks like that little brother that just gotta tag along and play with hes older brother and friends" that was hes take on hughes after 1 game. He is former hockeyplayer so he knows hockey a bit atleast xD
No, Ferdinand Cattini was 17 years and 2 months (5 goals for Switzerland against Belgium in 1934). Jaroslav Drobný was 17 years and 3 months (4 goals for Czechoslovakia against Yugoslavia in 1939).
Kakko being 18 years and 2 months makes him third then, but a full year older than the youngest.
Man, Switzerland defeated Belgium 20-1. Games like that would be fun to see. Youngest since the 30s is still quite good.
The Cannon of Tesoma
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Is this kind situation ever occurred in men's Team Finland that youngest player of the roster performs heads and shoulders above his team mates, some of them 10+ years older than him, while every other player in the team is more or less a part of grey mass? Super hero kid with platoon of grown up "sidekicks" to make my point clear.
Typical, average Finnish male is far from being full grown physically when 18yo, and Kaapo dominates. Freak of nature indeed.
A group of 18yo WHC hockey players in '30s cannot form the most crowded club ever. And even there would be such players, does it really count in terms of modern hockey? Everything before Orr seems to me someway un-hockey, when measured by modern standards.
EDIT: oops. @Albatros clarified the issue already above.
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