News Article: Rutherford and Johnston are staying. Both of them.

[Dipsy Doodle]

Oh, and to emphasize this again, too: Rutherford and Johnston are staying. Both of them.

I reported that in the Friday Insider, having heard it from the very top. I can report right here that I also was told that after this game, by David Morehouse, the team’s CEO and president. In emphatic terms.

The Penguins’ brass sees this season as one that was lost to injury and, even if adding up all the other deficiencies cited above, it’s absolutely true.

http://dkonpittsburghsports.com/2015/04/25/column-these-penguins-could-still-fly-with-wings/

These ***** are really trying to push me to another team.

This season was lost to incompetence, you boobs.

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[systemsgo]

Next up.

David Morehouse fired.

 

[Pancakes]

http://dkonpittsburghsports.com/2015/04/25/column-these-penguins-could-still-fly-with-wings/

These ***** are really trying to push me to another team.

This season was lost to incompetence, you boobs.

Disappointing, but one other thing from that article caught my eye, and that is that Kunitz/Scuderi might be bought out.

That would be a huge positive for us.

 

[canadianguy77]

Of course they are. This is the Penguins organization we're talking about. You know better RRP.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

Disappointing, but one other thing from that article caught my eye, and that is that Kunitz/Scuderi might be bought out.

That would be a huge positive for us.

These goofs still think Lovejoys are the solution and not the problem. Getting rid of Scuderi and Kunitz would be great if I thought this organization had their priorities straight and could replace them with effective players.

 

[KIRK]

http://dkonpittsburghsports.com/2015/04/25/column-these-penguins-could-still-fly-with-wings/

These ***** are really trying to push me to another team.

This season was lost to incompetence, you boobs.

Only Sid and/or Geno asking for a trade can save this franchise from itself.

 

[BigBenSF*]

http://dkonpittsburghsports.com/2015/04/25/column-these-penguins-could-still-fly-with-wings/

These ***** are really trying to push me to another team.

This season was lost to incompetence, you boobs.

Or significant injuries to three of the team's top four defenseman. And a nagging injury that compromised the talents of one of its stars.

Really, the Pens have been incredibly unlucky with injuries. Call it luck, or being injury prone, but it's been more than most:





A Rutherford dismissal would have been an option, but would it even matter? Odds are, he would be replaced by Guerin, and he would take the team in the wrong direction by focusing too much on "grit" and "intangibles".

 

[Darth Vitale]

Disappointing, but one other thing from that article caught my eye, and that is that Kunitz/Scuderi might be bought out.

That would be a huge positive for us.

Once again... is this the compliance buyout thing people keep bringing back from the dead? That option is gone and if it's DK brining it up in that context... wtf. Know your job.

It was only available the summer after the new CBA. I don't think teams can buy players out at this point. They can trade them -- that's about it. And I'd happily take a couple draft picks for them. A 3rd and a 5th you say? Done.

Someone please correct me if there's some other type of mysterious buyout option for teams in this CBA.

 

[td_ice]

http://dkonpittsburghsports.com/2015/04/25/column-these-penguins-could-still-fly-with-wings/

These ***** are really trying to push me to another team.

This season was lost to incompetence, you boobs.

Keep the core 4, and then scorched earth policy for the entire organization. Burn it down. Of course that isn't going to happen, and I wouldn't really trust Mario and Burkle to make better choices anyway.

 

[KIRK]

These goofs still think Lovejoys are the solution and not the problem. Getting rid of Scuderi and Kunitz would be great if I thought this organization had their priorities straight and could replace them with effective players.

Kovacevic's rationalizations of the comical play from that buffoon . . .

 

[tom_servo]

What would be the point of firing them after one season? What did we really expect?

 

[systemsgo]

Also from the article.

I happen to think the ledger came out mostly in favor of Jim Rutherford, though I’m increasingly willing to accept that more should have been culled for Simon Despres — regardless of what one thinks of Despres — than Lovejoy.

Ya think? LOL.

 

[UnderratedBrooks44]

this is the second time I've seen DK say someone told him something put he won't put it in the form of a quote

 

[Pancakes]

Once again... is this the compliance buyout thing people keep bringing back from the dead? That option is gone. I was only available the summer after the new CBA. I don't think teams can buy players out at this point. They can trade them -- that's about it. And I'd happily take a couple draft picks for them. A third and a 5th you say? Done.

No, you can still buyout players I think, but it's just with harsher penalties than the compliance buyouts brought. Now when you buyout Scuderi and/or Kunitz, it will bring cap penalties. Still better than having them on the roster, though.

These goofs still think Lovejoys are the solution and not the problem. Getting rid of Scuderi and Kunitz would be great if I thought this organization had their priorities straight and could replace them with effective players.

True, we'd have to see how they replaced them. Dejan hinted at a push towards youth with guys like Ehrhoff/Martin being let go and guys like Kapanen/Dumo being given a chance.

I'll believe it when I see it since we were promised the same thing this past season and they still stuck with vets.

 

[KIRK]

Once again... is this the compliance buyout thing people keep bringing back from the dead? That option is gone. I was only available the summer after the new CBA. I don't think teams can buy players out at this point. They can trade them -- that's about it. And I'd happily take a couple draft picks for them. A third and a 5th you say? Done.

Teams can buy out players, the traditional way.

I believe under 26, it's 1/3 of the contract value spread over twice the remaining years of the deal.

Over 26 is 2/3.

If it comes to it, I'd rather take 2.4M in dead cap space for the next 4 years to be rid of Kunitz and Scuderi than pay them about 7.2M for the next 2 years to stay.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

Or significant injuries to three of the team's top four defenseman. And a nagging injury that compromised the talents of one of its stars.

Or ****** trades and signings that left the Pens in worse shape than they came into the season.

A Rutherford dismissal would have been an option, but would it even matter? Odds are, he would be replaced by Guerin, and he would take the team in the wrong direction by focusing too much on "grit" and "intangibles".

God forbid they look somewhere else.

 

[KIRK]

Or ****** trades and signings that left the Pens in worse shape than they came into the season.



God forbid they look somewhere else.

This organization is a joke. It really is.

 

[Pantokrator]

For what it's worth, I'm a Flyers fan who was pulling for you guys. I was really annoyed because each game was a one goal game and y'all were missing over half of your Defense. From my perspective, y'all played great considering the circumstances - playing against the #1 team and without defense. Heck, 2 games went to OT. I don't know what the off season will bring, but I think you can be proud of how your team acquitted itself against this Rangers team.

 

[td_ice]

Also from the article.



Ya think? LOL.

Haha....even if we got Lovejoy for free, that proved to be a complete dumpster fire of acquisition. Showing the incompetence of the pro scouts and front office that thought he would a valuable piece for the playoffs.

 

[ColePens]

What would be the point of firing them after one season? What did we really expect?

Words of the organization vs. actions. To steal a little from Rossi article.

Say Shero screwed up, keep most of his staff.
Say we need to get young and play players like Despres, trade Despres and get old.
Say we need culture change, bring in similar inexperienced nhl coach.

Now for your question....

Say we brought in JR. to win the cup, lose first round and also lose badly to end up in eighth in the first place
Say we need nine gms to figure out cap, screw up and have cap issues at end of year.


Somewhere actions and words need to match. If they felt jr could really get this team a cup and made trades such as Despres for lovejoy.....then shouldn't he be fired as he failed? Words need to match actions.

 

[Coastal Kev]

http://dkonpittsburghsports.com/2015/04/25/column-these-penguins-could-still-fly-with-wings/

These ***** are really trying to push me to another team.

This season was lost to incompetence, you boobs.

I posted a response.... I wonder if it gets published in the comments or if he censors it.

 

[td_ice]

Words of the organization vs. actions. To steal a little from Rossi article.

Say Shero screwed up, keep most of his staff.
Say we need to get young and play players like Despres, trade Despres and get old.
Say we need culture change, bring in similar inexperienced nhl coach.

Now for your question....

Say we brought in JR. to win the cup, lose first round and also lose badly to end up in eighth in the first place
Say we need nine gms to figure out cap, screw up and have cap issues at end of year.


Somewhere actions and words need to match. If they felt jr could really get this team a cup and made trades such as Despres for lovejoy.....then shouldn't he be fired as he failed? Words need to match actions.

Hey, once you say goodnight and leave, you just can't jump back into the fray.

 

[BigBenSF*]

Or ****** trades and signings that left the Pens in worse shape than they came into the season.

That's absurd. Perron is better than nothing. Winnik is better than nothing. The difference in current quality between Cole and Bortuzzo is comparable to the difference between Despres and Lovejoy.

I hated the Despres trade when it happened and I still don't like it. But other than that, it's hard to find a firing-worthy trade or signing that Rutherford made.

God forbid they look somewhere else.

Realistically, they wouldn't. They already have a huge management team, why wouldn't they hire from within? It's not likely, so hoping that Rutherford would be fired on the off chance that they hire somewhere else is a waste of time.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

Keep the core 4, and then scorched earth policy for the entire organization. Burn it down. Of course that isn't going to happen, and I wouldn't really trust Mario and Burkle to make better choices anyway.

Sad but true. Almost makes me want to quit wasting time with this team.

What would be the point of firing them after one season? What did we really expect?

Not to get even older despite Lemieux and Burkle's stated mandate, lose in 5 games in the 1st round, and trade one of the org's best young defenseman for a bottom pair guy with experience.

Also from the article.



Ya think? LOL.

Yeah DK. Or they could have, you know, not traded him at all. Would have done wonders for our speed. And size. And physical play. And enthusiasm. And transition. All that useless stuff.

True, we'd have to see how they replaced them. Dejan hinted at a push towards youth with guys like Ehrhoff/Martin being let go and guys like Kapanen/Dumo being given a chance.

I'll believe it when I see it since we were promised the same thing this past season and they still stuck with vets.

Yeah, their words mean less than nothing.

 

[KIRK]

I put this in the gibberish thread. I'm adding it here. http://triblive.com/sports/robrossi/8238685-74/crosby-malkin-hockey#axzz3YHwpI0MX. Yeah, I know, the source. But, aside from this clown and the latest from brain fart of the day Madden . . . eh, I'll take it wherever I can find it, because Baghdad Dejan is just a ******* mouthpiece and apologist at this point.