Rumor: Rumours & Proposals Thread | Enter Offseason

[ConnorMcNugesaitl]

I don't really see the point in trading both Larsson and Russell. I think there's real value in keeping at least one of them to partner with Jones on the bottom pairing and to give #1PK minutes to.

At best, you're probably going to get a forward with a similar cap hit back for either of them. Do they have space or a need for two decent to not great $3-4M forwards?

I think they move Larsson because even with only one year left he has some value, Russell will be tough to sell unless Vancouver wants him and you can flip him for Sutter.

It'd be nice to move both and bring in one of those mid tier RHD if possible.

I'd rather say Hamonic or Tanev or someone like that over Russell and I think they might come at a similar salary.

That way you still have someone in the top 4 to shelter Bouchard.

 

[Burnt Biscuits]

I think they move Larsson because even with only one year left he has some value, Russell will be tough to sell unless Vancouver wants him and you can flip him for Sutter.

It'd be nice to move both and bring in one of those mid tier RHD if possible.

I'd rather say Hamonic or Tanev or someone like that over Russell and I think they might come at a similar salary.

That way you still have someone in the top 4 to shelter Bouchard.

Russell will be really easy to move at the deadline and could get a semi-decent return at that time, might be sensible to pre-acquire a little more depth d this off-season in preparation.

 

[BigTime99]

Just saw eberle get another point. Turning into a point per game playoff preformer.
Just wondering which oiler gets run out of town next and becomes good player on another team?

Klef
Nurse
Larson
Benning
AA

 

[Oilhawks]

All three have enough value but contracts of larsson and Russell will be a bit more difficult to trade. I would be worried about trading Larsson without a replacement. Sheahan I would keep if there was a good deal. I'd rather trade Benning over Larsson

Ideally we keep Larsson (especially if he's willing to re-sign for less...but would suck to lose him for nothing if not).

I'd like to see all of the below moved or walked away from (assuming the cap can be used for upgrades and young players can take a spot):

Russell
Chiasson (Assuming Neal doesn't get bought out they're redundant players IMO)
Benning (unless he takes a sizable discount)
Khaira (meh, he can mostly be buried if needed)
Sheahan (Haas should have been taking more PK reps, but I think he'll fill 4th line C well)

Leaves Kassian and Neal as inconsistent players with high cap. When both bring it though they're better than the above forwards IMO

 

[McDNicks17]

Larsson for Kapanen
Chiasson for Weal (Weal isn't ideal, but he's likely the best center you could swap a guy like Chiasson for. Right-handed, good for about 20-25 points, good on the draw. Could be worse.)
AA for Montour

Leaves $4.5M to do something at LW and at goalie.

Maybe deal Benning for a #3LW to bump down Neal and then trade Khaira for something. Re-sign Ennis for the McWing spot?

 

[Oilhawks]

Larsson for Kapanen
Chiasson for Weal (Weal isn't ideal, but he's likely the best center you could swap a guy like Chiasson for. Right-handed, good for about 20-25 points, good on the draw. Could be worse.)
AA for Montour

Leaves $4.5M to do something at LW and at goalie.

Maybe deal Benning for a #3LW to bump down Neal and then trade Khaira for something. Re-sign Ennis for the McWing spot?

I like it

 

[McFlash97]

Just saw eberle get another point. Turning into a point per game playoff preformer.
Just wondering which oiler gets run out of town next and becomes good player on another team?

Klef
Nurse
Larson
Benning
AA

Klefbom will never be any better then he us now...ever...

Nurse has low hockey IQ.
He will also not get much better.

These guys aren't exactly Quinn Hughes..

 

[Dazed and Confused]

One name that could be interesting on a value contract: Big Buff. Think like the Shattenkirk contract.

He's use to a western Canadian market, and the Oil could sell him on the idea of being the go-to OFD feeding McDavid and Drai, and mentoring the younger defence of Bear, Jones, and Bouchard.

Nurse-Bear
Klefbom-Larsson/Buff
Jones-Larsson/Buff


Imo, the Oil need to add a legit 45 point defenceman to the blueline, this could be a cost effective way to do it.

 

[BigTime99]

Klefbom will never be any better then he us now...ever...

Nurse has low hockey IQ.
He will also not get much better.

These guys aren't exactly Quinn Hughes..

You cant have or will be able to acquire 6 quinn hughes on ur team. You still have to fill in around him. I doubt any #1 dmen are available through trade. Im pretty sure oilers cant afford pietrangelo. Best case might be to stick with what they have and wait for bouchard and broberg or supplement with secondary options such as vatanen or gustaffsen.

 

[Burnt Biscuits]

What happened to the Zemgus Girgensons fanclub, I've seen 100's of proposals talking about how we should trade for him and now that he found his niche and is becoming a UFA and we can acquire him for only money no one talks about him anymore.

 

[Mez]

Larsson for Kapanen
Chiasson for Weal (Weal isn't ideal, but he's likely the best center you could swap a guy like Chiasson for. Right-handed, good for about 20-25 points, good on the draw. Could be worse.)
AA for Montour

Leaves $4.5M to do something at LW and at goalie.

Maybe deal Benning for a #3LW to bump down Neal and then trade Khaira for something. Re-sign Ennis for the McWing spot?

I don't see Kapanen as a good fit with McDavid...we need a sniper of sorts to burry his feeds...I don't think thats Kapanen.

 

[T-Funk]

What happened to the Zemgus Girgensons fanclub, I've seen 100's of proposals talking about how we should trade for him and now that he found his niche and is becoming a UFA and we can acquire him for only money no one talks about him anymore.

Too many letters in his name.

 

[belair]

Bit of an idea. If Tampa has trouble shedding salary this summer flip Larsson there with another piece, take back Cernak and take one of Johnson, Palat, Killorn or Gourde.

If he's out there, Anthony Cirelli would probably be the acquisition of the summer, but I'm going to assume they're going to fight tooth and nail to hang onto him.

Just thinking that Cernak, while nowhere near as hyped as Larsson, brings the same type of game at a much lower price.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Bit of an idea. If Tampa has trouble shedding salary this summer flip Larsson there with another piece, take back Cernak and take one of Johnson, Palat, Killorn or Gourde.

If he's out there, Anthony Cirelli would probably be the acquisition of the summer, but I'm going to assume they're going to fight tooth and nail to hang onto him.

Just thinking that Cernak, while nowhere near as hyped as Larsson, brings the same type of game at a much lower price.

I don't think they shed enough salary there to be worth it for Tampa.

 

[The Nuge]

So 2 moves I’ve seen get positive response from other fanbases.

Nurse and Neal for Butcher, Zacha, and a 2nd

I’m in no way in the trade Nurse/Klefa camp, but we get a 3C, a decent dman, and clear Neal’s deal.

Kris Russell for Mike Reilly

Both guys are owed 1.5 million next season, and Russell is clearly the better dman, but Reilly’s caphit is only 1.5, and he can slot in as our 7.

Doing both deals leaves us with about 10.5 million for a goalie and a skater. Say Pietrangelo and LB, or Hall and Greiss?

 

[belair]

I don't think they shed enough salary there to be worth it for Tampa.

Depends what Cernak is asking for. If they gave us Palat, they could potentially be shedding between $3-$4m.

Something like Larsson, Puljujarvi and Lagesson could be pretty enticing.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

Larsson for Kapanen
Chiasson for Weal (Weal isn't ideal, but he's likely the best center you could swap a guy like Chiasson for. Right-handed, good for about 20-25 points, good on the draw. Could be worse.)
AA for Montour

Leaves $4.5M to do something at LW and at goalie.

Maybe deal Benning for a #3LW to bump down Neal and then trade Khaira for something. Re-sign Ennis for the McWing spot?

My prediction is a Larsson for Montour deal. Deal shakes up the mix on two d-challenged teams without sacrificing depth. Oil get a better puck mover and PP option in their top two pairings and player that still fits their core age. Buffalo get a character pedigree top four defensive stalwart and doesn't hurt that his Swedish heritage aligns with their franchise young d-man.

I don't see Buffalo a results and character challenged team in disarray taking on AA for a top two pairing defenseman. They need more certainty in talent and character not increasing the question marks.

Kapanen is a tempting potential fit for the Oil. I just don't think they're going to water down the top four d-corp to improve wing position. Veteran Holland I think is too smart to fallback to past team bad practices of trying to plug roster holes by creating holes elsewhere. That approach and bad thinking netted Larsson for Hall.

 

[belair]

My prediction is a Larsson for Montour deal. Deal shakes up the mix on two d-challenged teams without sacrificing depth. Oil get a better puck mover and PP option in their top two pairings and player that still fits their core age. Buffalo get a character pedigree top four defensive stalwart and doesn't hurt that his Swedish heritage aligns with their franchise young d-man.

I don't see Buffalo a results and character challenged team in disarray taking on AA for a top two pairing defenseman. They need more certainty in talent and character not increasing the question marks.

Kapanen is a tempting potential fit for the Oil. I just don't think they're going to water down the top four d-corp to improve wing position. Veteran Holland I think is too smart to fallback to past team bad practices of trying to plug roster holes by creating holes elsewhere. That approach and bad thinking netted Larsson for Hall.

Buffalo has Ristolainen, Miller and Jokiharju at RD currently in addition to Montour. Friedman was also speculating that Buffalo may not even qualify Montour due to his arbitration rights.

If we did manage to deal for Montour, my money would be on Athanasiou straight up.

 

[belair]

What happened to the Zemgus Girgensons fanclub, I've seen 100's of proposals talking about how we should trade for him and now that he found his niche and is becoming a UFA and we can acquire him for only money no one talks about him anymore.

I still like him, but we're not exactly screaming for depth wingers like we were back then. Haas, Nygard, Neal, Chiasson, Archie, Kassian, Benson, Khaira. He's in that group.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

Buffalo has Ristolainen, Miller and Jokiharju at RD currently in addition to Montour. Friedman was also speculating that Buffalo may not even qualify Montour due to his arbitration rights.

If we did manage to deal for Montour, my money would be on Athanasiou straight up.

With the dysfunction of that franchise I highly doubt they are gambling on more questionable talent and character. They have flexibility on their d-corp to make additional moves so to add a high character prime year defender makes way more sense than a question mark winger who had the league's green jacket this year, is already expensive and has arbitration rights. Zero sense for a franchise looking for stability and character. And a new GM coming in with no experience but belief in analytics I don't see AA passing any of the tests Buffalo requires to become better and, unlike Edmonton, regain the trust of its fanbase who don't blindly support the team with hard earned money.

EDIT: I'm not even convinced Monteur is enough value for Larrson who quite likely is better on a better balanced d-corp.

 

[belair]

With the dysfunction of that franchise I highly doubt they are gambling on more questionable talent and character. They have flexibility on their d-corp to make additional moves so to add a high character prime year defender makes way more sense than a question mark winger who had the league's green jacket this year, is already expensive and has arbitration rights. Zero sense for a franchise looking for stability and character. And a new GM coming in with no experience but belief in analytics I don't see AA passing any of the tests Buffalo requires to become better and, unlike Edmonton, regain the trust of its fanbase who don't blindly support the team with hard earned money.

EDIT: I'm not even convinced Monteur is enough value for Larrson who quite likely is better on a better balanced d-corp.

My point is that Montour is completely expendable. They'd also have no room for Larsson.

 

[StreetHawk]

I don't think they shed enough salary there to be worth it for Tampa.

Cernak, sergachev, cirelli need new deals plus Vasilsky new deal kicks in next season for $9 mill. Killorn is the only guy they can move without asking. Palat, Johnson, Gourde all have full trade protection.

they are not in a position to take back contract.

 

[McTonyBrar]

I don't see Kapanen as a good fit with McDavid...we need a sniper of sorts to burry his feeds...I don't think thats Kapanen.

Jarvis or Quinn. Trust me

 

[The Nuge]

Bit of an idea. If Tampa has trouble shedding salary this summer flip Larsson there with another piece, take back Cernak and take one of Johnson, Palat, Killorn or Gourde.

If he's out there, Anthony Cirelli would probably be the acquisition of the summer, but I'm going to assume they're going to fight tooth and nail to hang onto him.

Just thinking that Cernak, while nowhere near as hyped as Larsson, brings the same type of game at a much lower price.

Or you just offer sheet Cirelli. They’ve got like 5 million in capspace before they sign Cirelli/Cernak/Sergachev, and need to fill 5-7 roster spots with it. Offer like 4.5-5 million per for 5 years to Cirelli. Sure it’d cost us our 1st, but that’s the type of guy you move it for. And there’s basically no way for Tampa to match it. Killorn is the only guy they can move really, and even that will be tough if he makes sure any team with capspace is on his no trade list. Even then, at that caphit, they’re still losing capspace if they tried to match on Cirelli. You reach a point where you’re just stuck hoping you can get a decent player with the 1st, and you move on.

Edit: Or is he not actually eligible for an offer sheet yet?

 

[CycloneSweep]

Jarvis or Quinn. Trust me

We are talking about next year not in 3 years.