Rumor: Rumors & Trade Proposals Thread | Post Mortem '23-24 Season: Who Should Stay, Who Should Go & Who Should We Bring In?

[CycloneSweep]

We don't have the D to win it all with a healthy lineup.

If the Oilers don't revamp/retool, upgrade several slots on the backend, we are writing off another season.

We had the D to win it all this year? Arguably only need to improve on Ceci.

 

[Nunymare]

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[Broberg Speed]

We had the D to win it all with a healthy lineup this year. The team was literally one goal away while our two best players were playing through injuries.

With a little luck we got to game 7 and lost by one goal, that doesn't make our current defence good.

We had the D to win it all this year? Arguably only need to improve on Ceci.

So who do you like, Broberg? Yeah right. We don't have the defense corps to win a Stanley Cup.

 

[Spawn]

With a little luck we got to game 7 and lost by one goal, that doesn't make our current defence good.

Our defense isn't perfect. But as a whole, the team is one of the best defensive teams in the league.

 

[WaitingForUser]

With a little luck we got to game 7 and lost by one goal, that doesn't make our current defence good.

So who do you like, Broberg? Yeah right. We don't have the defense corps to win a Stanley Cup.

Where were you during the historic run? Seems as soon as we lost you cropped back up with a bunch of told you so’s that don’t even align with reality.

 

[Broberg Speed]

Where were you during the historic run? Seems as soon as we lost you cropped back up with a bunch of told you so’s that don’t even align with reality.

I didn't want to funkin jinx it. I posted regular except for the last round. Don't worry about it.

 

[foshizzle]

There is a rather large headache heading our way. In just over 36 hours we can sign Bouchard and Leon to new deals. Leon could be looking at 12+*8 and Bouchard 9*8. I think that could be holding things up. We can not sign players for multi year deals unless there are for 1mil like with our back up I am sure the oilers have some idea of what each player maybe asking and that maybe tying our hands. Oilers can not over spend during the UFA season and we need to shed some cap.

Whomever the new GM is going to be he/she(there are a couple of women that are predicted to be GMS someday) they need to be dynamic.

I blanked on the fact Jeff Jackson played over 200 games in the NHL in the 80's

Servalli, who basis his player values off of analytics company, thinks Bouchard will come in at 10M and Drai at 14. I keep saying it- Oilers can only keep one of Nurse or Bouchard.

 

[soothsayer]

How do you guys need about a Krug for Nurse swap?

Krug would never waive to come to Edmonton in any event. There is a subsection of American players who would rather never win a Stanley Cup than play in Canada. He's in that group.

 

[T-Funk]

Sure- but that’s not the way Knob coaches and not the way the Oilers play. Rishaug asked him numerous times about the physicality in the playoffs and Knob said something along the lines that he wants the team to check with their legs and if the hit is there, take it, but don’t chase it. The myth around “tough guys to keep players honest” died a long time ago. Instigator rule took care of that.

Well knob is not doing what he says because they barely even take the hits that are there. Rookie head coach did well but arrogance like not making his team hit in the playoffs is gonna lead to a couple great playoff runs, no cup, and no job. The Woodcroft hat trick.

 

[foshizzle]

Interesting. I was close to advocating to trade Kane throughout the season, but stopped short because I wanted to see what he could bring in the playoffs. He brought some value in the playoffs, but also hurt us. Overall, not good enough.

Now there are reports he didn’t take his training seriously. At 5M, it’s time to move on.

Now I wonder if this is the cap freeing move Bob hinted at.

I said to trade him at the beginning of the season and TDL and everyone jumped down my throat

 

[StoveTopStauffer]

With a little luck we got to game 7 and lost by one goal, that doesn't make our current defence good.

So who do you like, Broberg? Yeah right. We don't have the defense corps to win a Stanley Cup.

Florida's defense didn't look amazingly better than ours at any point and they won a cup.

Move Ceci for someone better. Puck mover to help lower lines score more imo. Bouchard can't be the only offensive dman.

 

[TheNumber4]

I said to trade him at the beginning of the season and TDL and everyone jumped down my throat

Well ultimately we did need his playoff warrior factor through the first 2 series. He helped neutralize Z according to guys in the room. He ended up helping. But I don't think its too crazy to have considered trading him during the year. There was iffy play throughout with him.

 

[NotASheep]

Servalli, who basis his player values off of analytics company, thinks Bouchard will come in at 10M and Drai at 14. I keep saying it- Oilers can only keep one of Nurse or Bouchard.

...and no one wants Nurse

 

[Broberg Speed]

We had the D to win it all this year? Arguably only need to improve on Ceci.

So let's get this straight, you like Broberg now, laughing boy? Why do you do that?

You have something to say, say it.

 

[jlockhart89]

A whole lot of blocked posters seem to be back lurking about now that our very positive run has come to an end, tons of quoted messages in this thread I can’t see who are being responded to.

 

[Broberg Speed]

Florida's defense didn't look amazingly better than ours at any point and they won a cup.

Move Ceci for someone better. Puck mover to help lower lines score more imo. Bouchard can't be the only offensive dman.

I don't think the Panthers were all that either. The media sure did. That's all that counts these days.

Servalli, who basis his player values off of analytics company, thinks Bouchard will come in at 10M and Drai at 14. I keep saying it- Oilers can only keep one of Nurse or Bouchard.

Seravalli pops his head out of Bettman's asshole, Draisaitl signs for 14M. 8 more years.

 

[iCanada]

I didn't want to funkin jinx it. I posted regular except for the last round. Don't worry about it.

Wait, it was you that jinxed it?!

And you're in here bashing the team??

(Lol I'm kidding, if that's not clear)

 

[Broberg Speed]

A whole lot of blocked posters seem to be back lurking about now that our very positive run has come to an end, tons of quoted messages in this thread I can’t see who are being responded to.

I sure wouldn't want you to read anything that contradicts your thought.

Wait, it was you that jinxed it?!

And you're in here bashing the team??

(Lol I'm kidding, if that's not clear)

I feel horrible that they lost. I won't get over it soon.

 

[BarDownBobo]

Huh. I would have thought by now we’d have done more than sign Pickard and trade for a late 1st.

I kinda wonder if Jackson’s agent mentality plays into that a bit. I’ve heard some people before saying that they like leaving draft day to the kids drafted to spotlight them, so especially as a former agent I could see him having that mindset. They probably even have another couple extensions agreed to just waiting until tomorrow to announce.

 

[Ritchie Valens]

Leon letting the cat out of the bag? I know he still has a year left but this text he sent O’Reilly just has an undertone to it he’s not going anywhere.

 

[Spawn]

I don't think the Panthers were all that either. The media sure did. That's all that counts these days.

Last three seasons Florida has won a Presidents Trophy, made it to the SCF and then won the SC.

You have a high bar for what constitutes a good team I think.

 

[bobbythebrain]

Statistically this is not true in literally any category except for like a two-three game sample size where Ceci was hard sheltered during the playoffs and before broberg came in for Desharnais.

Across the previous three playoffs runs and regular seasons (read - 99.9% of the body of works) the numbers are starkly the opposite. So...



Are we supposed to know who Holtz is?

I still like to use what's called the eye test. I know many ppl can't comprehend that.

Ceci got massively burned on his own in the corner which lead to his scratch. That was on him. What stats won't show is how many times Nurse lobbed pucks at him in terrible situations. After that tho...

Ceci was much better at breaking up cycles. The last game in particular dude was extra solid in the corners.

In these playoffs his plays were more clutch than Nurses, goals and apples and down low battles

Look no further than to see how last game Nurse flubbed 2 routine passes that f'ed up odd man rushes, meanwhile Ceci assisted the tying goal

I'm not claiming he's some hero mind you, but actually watching the games you can see he was not the victim some make him out to be. Away from Nurse the dude was TOTALLY serviceable. Nurse literally handcuffed him in MANY plays with the ridiculous reverses and no logic passes ignoring streaking forwards

And if you want to talk sample sizes, please check out nurses playoff sample sizes. he's pure junk. Hence why his icetime dropped under a coach who recognized that but was handcuffed with him on the team

 

[bobbythebrain]

We don't have the D to win it all with a healthy lineup.

If the Oilers don't revamp/retool, upgrade several slots on the backend, we are writing off another season.

LOL. They were 1 goal away, and a post away. What nonsense are you spouting this time?

Your takes always have 10% logic

Last three seasons Florida has won a Presidents Trophy, made it to the SCF and then won the SC.

You have a high bar for what constitutes a good team I think.

He said they were massively overated. The poster doesn't know hockey. He has made that clear over and over with his posts. he posts to hear his own voice. Little has to do with fact or logic

 

[McTonyBrar]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1807310381167116398

…was he following him before?…

 

[OilerTyler]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1807310381167116398

…was he following him before?…

I'd imagine they just know each other because they both grew up playing high level hockey in Edmonton. They are two years apart in age but they both played SSAC hockey and then played against each other in the WHL.