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[Took a pill in Sbisa]

Kappo traded to Seattle...that was fast after criticism of the coach.
Something is really rotten there.

Who should we target from NYR?

Schneider I think

 

[TheNumber4]

The poster you're quoting was also banned.

Named Anarchism.

So it wasnt really before his time.

Lol. Mystery solved.

 

[Spawn]

Kappo traded to Seattle...that was fast after criticism of the coach.
Something is really rotten there.

Who should we target from NYR?

Go big or go home. Adam Fox

 

[Jumptheshark]

Apparently he hasn't fit into Calgary's style either as he's been a healthy scratch more often than not.

Unless you are getting 80pts a year, teams expect you to know how to play D

 

[Jumptheshark]

Personally I think the Oilers top priority should be having at least one average goaltender as currently they have 2 below average tenders even though both Skinner and Pickard have been playing better as of late.

It has to be frustrating when the team plays solid D in most games yet gives back a large chunk of that advantage because of less than average goaltending.

I do realize it's easier said than done to get a better than average goalie on this team but honestly that's probably the 1 move that would make the biggest impact.

If they aren't willing to do that... then next priority imo should be improving the team's shooting percentage... ie getting better finish on this team.

They have the most High danger shots/60 of any NHL team... 3rd in Medium danger shots/60... 5th in Low danger shots/60. They are generating chances out the wahoo... but they can't finish well.

13th in High danger shooting pct... 29th in Medium danger shooting pct... 20th in Low danger shooting pct. 21st in overall shooting pct with 10.14%.

If they could have just 1% better finish overall... that would mean an extra 10 GF already as they have over 1000 shots already. 10 extra GF sprinkled over those 31 games would obviously be massive and would likely mean at least a few more wins... they'd likely be near the top of the NHL right now.

Saying all that... over the past 10 games, the Oilers have a shooting pct of 14.01% which is excellent (2nd best only to TB since Nov 22nd).

They also have an excellent save pct since Nov 22nd... 91.87% over that 10 game stretch (2nd only to the Ottawa Senators of all teams).

So signs are definitely pointing upwards and hopefully the offensive finish has truly turned a corner and the goaltending as well is trending towards being at least average again (hopefully).

Still I think goaltending is obviously the area that we can almost unanimously agree is the area that's weakest and 1 decent player brought in can make a huge difference.

Team D has been very good overall (ironically it was even better at the start of the season and is slightly less great in the past 10 games).

The first 11 games of the season the Oilers team defense (based on the quality of their competition) was reducing the expected goals against by an average of .283 GA per game...

...then in next 10 games the Oilers team defense was reducing the expected goals against by .528 GA/game...

...and in the last 10 games the Oilers team defense was reducing the expected goals against by .118 GA/game.

The offensive finish on the team and the goaltending have improved markedly over the last 10 games which has lead to the team having the great run they've been on.

That's why I'd personally lean towards a goalie as the #1 target (as we know how big a factor that can be to have an above average tender). Plus if there's anything left in the asset pile to improve the team... finishing ability could hopefully also be improved... ie a player who can actually snipe... although MAYBE with Arvidsson/Kane coming back that may be helpful as well. Hyman alone regaining some scoring touch is massive as well... so maybe organically this team will elevate that shooting percentage higher and that will take care of itself (again hopefully).


It might seem odd to say that the targets should be:

#1 goalie
#2 sniper

...but I feel overall team D is a strength of the team so I don't know if limited assets should be spent on further improving team defense (although of course ANYTHING that improves the team overall is a good thing).

Kane is the sniper when he returns. We have Nuge, Hyman and Kane all on 5 mill a year. If they are not getting the job done they need to go

 

[harpoon]

You are getting roasted for posting this on the Oilers subreddit lol

Haha … wow. First time visiting that forum and let’s just say I won’t hurry back.

 

[Scrapin Ice]

The guy that had a 893 sv percentage last year in the ahl that's who you're propping up?

He is at .930 this year under Korn and his guys. Plus he is on an upward trend. He has always had the athleticism. If you look at only numbers on goal tenders you will miss very much. Thats what Korn knows and thats why he recommended both Chrona and Murray.
For example look at Devin Cooley currently leading the league with a fantastic save percentage. Then look at his past years. Ask yourself what the difference is? Then reread the article and some of Korn's quotes.

Remember Barrie was a toss in. Reid Svheffer and the 1st were the key for Nashville. Scheffer is doing good in the AHL and Tanner Molendyk is a pt per person in his last year of JR

Tanner does have serious upside but remains to be seen. His play reminds me of a video i seen one time about a cheeta.
Nice butchering of Schaefer's name. What good have 1st's been to us anyways--we either select the wrong guy, trade it away, or haven't got the brains to protect it. Look at the 5 1st's before Sammy. FIVE 1ST s and we have Ekholm.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

So the trade freeze starts tonight?

 

[Burnt Biscuits]

Feels like none of the guys who have moved are an appreciable upgrade over what Kulak is providing right now or just aren’t the right fit. Like Fowler I think is a prime candidate to bounce back, but I don’t think he has any experience on the right side. Also would have been nearly impossible to make him fit.

And then otherwise, for me, it’s just a bunch of mid tier guys who wouldn’t move the needle for us in a meaningful way.

I'll agree I don't see any big upgrades available for our 2nd pairing ATM, but even a modest upgrade to the 2nd pairing is noteworthy just cause it shoves Kulak down a peg to solidify the 3rd pairing and I think all solid SC contenders should have one D-man they are comfortable with as a fill in to the top 4.

 

[TB12]

I mean majority of HFOil lol not just you. I'm assuming you were one of the fans who started panicking?

If I'm wrong, I apologize

I gotta ask an honest question:

You're pretty busy on Twitter posting, you post here a fair bit, you listen to a lot of the oilers radio shows, I hear your name on the Rishaug podcast as you're sending in questions...so my question is: when do you sleep?!? haha. You must be a great multitasker!

 

[McFlash97]

Canucks close to acquiring Bowen Byram. There is no way we can go into the playoffs with our hideous defense. Man letting go of Broberg is officially a massive headache. He was basically Byrams answer for the Oilers. I don't like us going for another 30 plus year old defensive sieve if guys like Byram was available. This Managment better ask Skinner to accept a trade asap. Can't be sitting around getting scraps in March. Make the fn trades and free up cap.

 

[GMofOilers]

Haha … wow. First time visiting that forum and let’s just say I won’t hurry back.

Legit question as he’s the worst goalie in the NHL just has luxury of playing behind the best team in NHL, he would get lit up like a Christmas tree on any other team

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Legit question as he’s the worst goalie in the NHL just has luxury of playing behind the best team in NHL, he would get lit up like a Christmas tree on any other team

You think this is the best team in the NHL? Interesting.

 

[McDNicks17]

Canucks close to acquiring Bowen Byram. There is no way we can go into the playoffs with our hideous defense. Man letting go of Broberg is officially a massive headache. He was basically Byrams answer for the Oilers. I don't like us going for another 30 plus year old defensive sieve if guys like Byram was available. This Managment better ask Skinner to accept a trade asap. Can't be sitting around getting scraps in March. Make the fn trades and free up cap.

If you're looking to improve defensively, I'm not sure Byram is the guy.

 

[Jumptheshark]

So the trade freeze starts tonight?

Thought it 2350 est last night?

 

[CanadasTeam99]

Thought it 2350 est last night?

Pretty sure it is tonight

Canucks close to acquiring Bowen Byram. There is no way we can go into the playoffs with our hideous defense. Man letting go of Broberg is officially a massive headache. He was basically Byrams answer for the Oilers. I don't like us going for another 30 plus year old defensive sieve if guys like Byram was available. This Managment better ask Skinner to accept a trade asap. Can't be sitting around getting scraps in March. Make the fn trades and free up cap.

Good chance they make a trade today. We are competing directly with them for a top 4 D

I don't know, feels like getting a top 4 D for us is impossible

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Canucks close to acquiring Bowen Byram. There is no way we can go into the playoffs with our hideous defense. Man letting go of Broberg is officially a massive headache. He was basically Byrams answer for the Oilers. I don't like us going for another 30 plus year old defensive sieve if guys like Byram was available. This Managment better ask Skinner to accept a trade asap. Can't be sitting around getting scraps in March. Make the fn trades and free up cap.

link?

 

[Jumptheshark]

Pretty sure it is tonight


Good chance they make a trade today. We are competing directly with them for a top 4 D

I don't know, feels like getting a top 4 D for us is impossible

What is the NHL Holiday Roster Freeze? Explaining Why the Maple Leafs Can't Make Any Moves Next Week

If the Toronto Maple Leafs want to add a new player to their lineup before Christmas, they have exactly nine hours (this was published at 3PM). The Maple Leafs

editorinleaf.com

I saw several places say it was the 18th at 23:59.

But I believe players can be waived today but not traded

 

[VeteranPresence]

Canucks close to acquiring Bowen Byram. There is no way we can go into the playoffs with our hideous defense. Man letting go of Broberg is officially a massive headache. He was basically Byrams answer for the Oilers. I don't like us going for another 30 plus year old defensive sieve if guys like Byram was available. This Managment better ask Skinner to accept a trade asap. Can't be sitting around getting scraps in March. Make the fn trades and free up cap.

Sorry, Stan's Busy (TM). With that? No one's really sure, but it doesn't appear to be making our roster substantially better.

 

[Jumptheshark]

Canucks close to acquiring Bowen Byram. There is no way we can go into the playoffs with our hideous defense. Man letting go of Broberg is officially a massive headache. He was basically Byrams answer for the Oilers. I don't like us going for another 30 plus year old defensive sieve if guys like Byram was available. This Managment better ask Skinner to accept a trade asap. Can't be sitting around getting scraps in March. Make the fn trades and free up cap.

Curious how there us nothing on the canucks or main board about this trade

 

[McDNicks17]

Sorry, Stan's Busy (TM). With that? No one's really sure, but it doesn't appear to be making our roster substantially better.

And that's a good thing.

All these other GMs rumoured to be in on everything, but never actually getting the players is embarrassing.

 

[Canovin]

If you're looking to improve defensively, I'm not sure Byram is the guy.

He's probably going to cost a lot to extend. But I think he would excel here especially under Knob and Coffey

 

[The Nuge]

I'm shocked at how much people are ripping Mike Matheson. I mean guys are you for real? This is a top 4 guy. It's not like we'd be putting Corey Potter with Nurse. Matheson is a legit top 4 defender.

I'm shaking my head reading some of these comments


Then pack it up. Might as well end the season here. Didn't alot of you guys, including me, end the season last year in November?

That’s debatable. He was an overpaid #5 who was dealt as a cap dump, and only started looking like a top 4 guy when Montreal started propping him up with massive minutes. Look at what happened with Karlsson when he went from San Jose to Pittsburgh

In regards to Matheson. Member when Jultz couldn't carry the Oilers defense with a bunch of talented but defensively inept forwards but then went to the Penguins and produced really well in a more realistic role and won the cup. Pepperidge farm remembers

Edited because Pepperidge Farms has Alzheimer's.

I remember when Jultz played like he didn’t give a crap (unlike Petry who was our top dman), and most people said the trade would be a wake up call to get his crap together and that he would probably do well in Pittsburgh.

I would love Matheson on the Oilers. He's an exceptional skater and would fit in well under coffeys system. Our dmen don't sit back and defend the net, they make plays and push the pace of the game. He can play both sides and in all situations.

I don't get all the hate from fans. Is it the acquisition cost? I dont think the cost will be as much as fans think. The warts he does have will keep the cost down which is necessary because the Oilers can't afford to outbid other teams.

The value I really see with Matheson is that he still has an extra year on his contract and at 50% that's only 2.44M against the cap. So if Kulak and Matheson are splitting time he brings value in either spot. The Oilers can't afford to bring in another high price defenceman into the mix with Draisaitl getting his increase and Bouchard getting his.

Keep in mind that playoff rosters aren't the same as regular season rosters. Having Matheson on the bottom pair is a competitive advantage. Sure it might be a luxury but it's not stopping the Oilers from making other moves. Oilers don't need to go after the big name that's going to command a stupid amount of money.

Also everyone on here is complaining that we lost Broberg but Matheson is a better version of broberg thats also cheaper against the cap.

It’s that he’d be going back to a lesser role, on a good team, which is what he was before going to Montreal, and he sucked in that role. Did he have a massive breakout at 28, or is he just being propped up by being the top dman on a bad team? And what’s the cost? Do you have to pay for the 60 point season he had, or is he coming in at the overpaid 25-30 point dman he was before? I’d take him with retention for a second. I’m not giving up like Savoie or anything massive though.

For me Mattiesin is the shiny toy we want for Xmas think it is better than he is. Montreal is doing the pump and dump like Sharks tried with Karlsson two seasons ago.

For me Mattieson is like Justin Schultz, Tyson Berrie and a few other guys where we forget just how much of a liability they are on the ice. We already have bouchard giving us headaches

Agree 100%. If he comes cheap, sure. But this feels like when Montreal propped up Ben Chiarot, and everyone balked at the price, only for Florida to pay it, and get dunked on by everyone around the league. And that worked out horribly

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

You think this is the best team in the NHL? Interesting.

Definitely in the conversation and if you think different then you aren’t paying attention.

 

[Jumptheshark]

That’s debatable. He was an overpaid #5 who was dealt as a cap dump, and only started looking like a top 4 guy when Montreal started propping him up with massive minutes. Look at what happened with Karlsson when he went from San Jose to Pittsburgh



I remember when Jultz played like he didn’t give a crap (unlike Petry who was our top dman), and most people said the trade would be a wake up call to get his crap together and that he would probably do well in Pittsburgh.



It’s that he’d be going back to a lesser role, on a good team, which is what he was before going to Montreal, and he sucked in that role. Did he have a massive breakout at 28, or is he just being propped up by being the top dman on a bad team? And what’s the cost? Do you have to pay for the 60 point season he had, or is he coming in at the overpaid 25-30 point dman he was before? I’d take him with retention for a second. I’m not giving up like Savoie or anything massive though.



Agree 100%. If he comes cheap, sure. But this feels like when Montreal propped up Ben Chiarot, and everyone balked at the price, only for Florida to pay it, and get dunked on by everyone around the league. And that worked out horribly

My biggest issue with Matthieson is come playoff time? We saw how we struggled somes games when the other team played shutdown hockey. MM is not built for a defensive war