Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Y'all Got Any Good Goalies?

Oilhawks

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Pittsburgh is making the playoffs


There must be some names we haven't thought about.

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belair

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I’ve been a big fan of Sissons game for a long time and was hoping we would inquire about him last year. He’s having an absolutely miserable season but I think with the needed retention he’d still have a decent acquisition cost.

The issue I see now is that we’ve got a pretty deep lineup and there’s only so many minutes to go around. Underplaying guys can be just as detrimental as overplaying them and I don’t know if we would be maximizing a guy like Sissons effectiveness by playing him the 6-8 minutes a night the 4C in Edmonton is going to be getting. Only way I can see it being worth it is if someone like Arvidsson or Henrique is going out.
I think he'd be a big PK guy and the top RH faceoff guy. He'd lineup as 4C, but probably still finishes the night in the 14-16 minute range. If Derek Ryan is coming out, you need a big faceoff/PK guy knowing how important those have been.

I think the guys who see their minutes diminish in the the playoffs are your Skinners, Podkolzins and Perrys. Guys that aren't primary scorers and minimal special teams.

Aside from the upgrade on Stecher/Emberson, I think that's probably the biggest upgrade that we can realistically make on the current roster. And if the retention is possible, it's a no brainer IMO.
 

94 Oil Drops

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Kane brings one of the most important elements: chaos. Knoblauch's style is all about sticking to the plan. Kane is a disruptor. When the system fails he's the best player on the ice. I bet we would have the cup if Kane were healthy
This is actually an excellent point I haven't thought of before. Evander Kane is sort of like a ballistic missile that can be fired in case of an emergency. He can throw entire opposing lines off their game when he's at his best and that's not a luxury many teams have.
 

Mr Positive

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This is actually an excellent point I haven't thought of before. Evander Kane is sort of like a ballistic missile that can be fired in case of an emergency. He can throw entire opposing lines off their game when he's at his best and that's not a luxury many teams have.
When he's at his best it's like thar Calgary series we had. We got shelled badly in game 1 and Kane was the only noticeable Oiler. He was just getting in their heads and mucking it up
 

foshizzle

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Kane brings one of the most important elements: chaos. Knoblauch's style is all about sticking to the plan. Kane is a disruptor. When the system fails he's the best player on the ice. I bet we would have the cup if Kane were healthy
Chaos hasn’t won him a cup yet. Knob has shown frustration with Kane before. I like Kane but you need players who fit into the system
 

Mr Positive

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Chaos hasn’t won him a cup yet. Knob has shown frustration with Kane before. I like Kane but you need players who fit into the system
Lots of great players never won a cup, and Kane isn't even a core player. Knob hasn't hesitated to play Kane. He even played him when he really shouldn't have, when he was still injured and had to stand at the bench. It's not like he's totally uncoachable. He knows when to mix things up and when to hold back.
 

Trafalgar Sadge Law

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I was the biggest McLeod supporter on the board, but he isn't better than Henrique defensively, the fundamentals of Henrique's defensive game and defensive awareness is markedly better, what McLeod did better was drive possession (mainly through leveraging his skating advantage offensively and defensively) which is what is actually being shown in his analytics.

What I have been arguing for this year is we need to target an upgrade to pair with Henrique who helps him with zone entries and helps stimulate offense and zone possession for his line. Henrique still has offensive chops, but he needs a straw that stirs the drink.
I'm saying that it doesn't matter how good your defensive awareness or positioning is if you can't get the puck out of the zone. Defense isn't about knowing what guy to stand next to, it's about preventing scoring chances. Yeah McLeod sometimes gets caught puck watching or blows the zone early trying to cherry pick, but he's the far more disruptive forward against opposing dmen and forces opposing teams to play less aggressively due to the threat of him stealing the puck and generating an odd-man rush the other way. And it results in less scoring chances against. Henrique is quite frankly, not very good at preventing scoring chances because of how many extended possessions the opponents get due to his lack of speed and inability to use his wingers. I mean come on, if you watched today you'll see exactly what I'm talking about. The team was a possession black hole every time Henrique stepped on the ice and might as well have been on the penalty kill. He was not an NHL caliber player tonight.
 

Soundwave

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Who can we get? and how can we afford him?

Imagine Vegas had this attitude two years ago and decided to just do nothing and stand pat with Broissoit. We are in the 2023 Cup Finals then.

It's not that hard to find a goalie higher than like 60th in the league for GSAA, there's literally 60 options there, get one.

No one says you have to f***ing marry the goalie you acquire, at least have some options. Vegas had an option in our series. It changed the series entirely and got them .930 goaltending all the way to a Cup.
 

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