Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | With Klingberg in the Mix Who Are Our 7D After the Deadline?

[CanadasTeam99]

Ya, sorry to break it to you but players don't evaluate your justifications.. They evaluate games like LA, Buf and Det where Stu was instrumental in wins and points.

They are basically the best team in the NHL right now....you think half the roster thinks STU is a problem?

An easier way to break it to you is....when I saw all the melodramatic and big brain theories that the fans had as to the last playoff loss....I listened to Drai actually break down the significant timeliness and plays in game that happened

Guess what... the two opinions weren't even close. I know who I believe more

Hey, If Drai and co like substandard goaltending, who are we to argue?

Let them lose.

 

[SupremeTeam16]

How pathetic does your life have to be in order to rack up 5000 posts here in 6 months.

 

[harpoon]

we can take a big giant sh** on management. Just absolutely roast them to no end all summer.

For some of us who have been around here for decades, there’s no joy in that anymore. Plug your roster holes, don’t waste cap space on junk and get this city the SC it deserves before the teams best players age out. So far it seems a lot like ‘meet the new boss, only slightly better than the old boss’.

 

[McFlyingV]

They have Connelly, Brisson, Cataford, Karki, Uronen and Sapovaliv as decent-ish prospects to throw around, plus all their 2nds and five 3rd rounders in the next three years. They somehow have more picks than we do. Just a well-run organization that doesn't miss on value in their top 90 picks.



Yawn. Gregor carrying water for Skinner. Nothing new or valuable here.

I almost punched my windshield out when I heard Daniel Nugent-Bowman on Lowetide's show doing the same. Said he's not an elite goalie, but he's in the next tier of very good goalies. Compared Skinner to Crawford in Chicago (who was a good goalie, but not elite) and said that's how Stan Bowman views him. Crawford's numbers in Chicago are what Skinner's numbers should look like behind this Edmonton team if he was a good, but not elite goalie.

I just can't understand how Edmonton sports media tries so desperately to gas light the entire fan base claiming we're all wrong and Skinner is actually a really good goalie.

 

[harpoon]

They are basically the best team in the NHL right now....you think half the roster thinks STU is a problem?

Yes I do. I think everybody on the roster wishes they had a better goaltender.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

I almost punched my windshield out when I heard Daniel Nugent-Bowman on Lowetide's show doing the same. Said he's not an elite goalie, but he's in the next tier of very good goalies. Compared Skinner to Crawford in Chicago (who was a good goalie, but not elite) and said that's how Stan Bowman views him. Crawford's numbers in Chicago are what Skinner's numbers should look like behind this Edmonton team if he was a good, but not elite goalie.

I just can't understand how Edmonton sports media tries so desperately to gas light the entire fan base claiming we're all wrong and Skinner is actually a really good goalie.

Even the guys on GYB who I love were ranking him 9-15th in the league. I just don’t get it.

 

[TheSuperElite]

Ya, sorry to break it to you but players don't evaluate your justifications.. They evaluate games like LA, Buf and Det where Stu was instrumental in wins and points.

They are basically the best team in the NHL right now....you think half the roster thinks STU is a problem?

An easier way to break it to you is....when I saw all the melodramatic and big brain theories that the fans had as to the last playoff loss....I listened to Drai actually break down the significant timeliness and plays in game that happened

Guess what... the two opinions weren't even close. I know who I believe more

the players know more than anyone how below average Stuart is lol.. the interview responses they give about him reflect that. McD after Game 6 vs Dallas: "He does nothing but stand in there and stand tall for us" is another way of saying "he's a living and breathing shooter tutor"

 

[bobbythebrain]

Hey, If Drai and co like substandard goaltending, who are we to argue?

Let them lose.

Hey, remember when St Louis came back and almost beat us? Remember when 98.8888% blamed Stu?

Remember when the actual reason they almost lost is cuz Schenn obliterated everyone in sight and the Oilers got there shit pushed in shift after shift?.....of course you don't, cuz it was ALL STUS FAULT

Now guess what McD and Drai thought that game? You think they blamed Stu for the 2nd cross crease goal after a massive and lengthy possession where they couldn't get it out, or did they simply blame the goalie like these "expert fans" did?

I'm pretty confident I know what they recognized as the real reason St Louis clawed their way back

 

[CanadasTeam99]

Yes I do. I think everybody on the roster wishes they had a better goaltender.

I think Stu is a great teammate and the boys love him and maybe think he can still evolve. Timing is not their friend.

Hey, remember when St Louis came back and almost beat us? Remember when 98.8888% blamed Stu?

Remember when the actual reason they almost lost is cuz Schenn obliterated everyone in sight and the Oilers got there shit pushed in shift after shift?.....of course you don't, cuz it was ALL STUS FAULT

Now guess what McD and Drai thought that game? You think they blamed Stu for the 2nd cross crease goal after a massive and lengthy possession where they couldn't get it out, or did they simply blame the goalie like these "expert fans" did?

I'm pretty confident I know what they recognized as the real reason St Louis clawed their way back

Just to be very clear....

You are fine with the goaltending?

 

[Canovin]

Ya, sorry to break it to you but players don't evaluate your justifications.. They evaluate games like LA, Buf and Det where Stu was instrumental in wins and points.

They are basically the best team in the NHL right now....you think half the roster thinks STU is a problem?

An easier way to break it to you is....when I saw all the melodramatic and big brain theories that the fans had as to the last playoff loss....I listened to Drai actually break down the significant timeliness and plays in game that happened

Guess what... the two opinions weren't even close. I know who I believe more

Drai broke down Stuart’s game play by play? Where? Show me

 

[soothsayer]

I almost punched my windshield out when I heard Daniel Nugent-Bowman on Lowetide's show doing the same. Said he's not an elite goalie, but he's in the next tier of very good goalies. Compared Skinner to Crawford in Chicago (who was a good goalie, but not elite) and said that's how Stan Bowman views him. Crawford's numbers in Chicago are what Skinner's numbers should look like behind this Edmonton team if he was a good, but not elite goalie.

I just can't understand how Edmonton sports media tries so desperately to gas light the entire fan base claiming we're all wrong and Skinner is actually a really good goalie.

Crawford had a career playoff sv% of .918, and the years he won the cup he had a 0.932 and 0.924. That's f***ing elite goaltending. Whoever this Daniel Nugent-Bowman fellow is, he must be a bit of a moron.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

Crawford had a career playoff sv% of .918, and the years he won the cup he had a 0.932 and 0.924. That's f***ing elite goaltending. Whoever this Daniel Nugent-Bowman fellow is, he must be a bit of a moron.

It's like communism here

You will get shit goaltending and you will like it!

 

[McFlyingV]

Crawford had a career playoff sv% of .918, and the years he won the cup he had a 0.932 and 0.924. That's f***ing elite goaltending. Whoever this Daniel Nugent-Bowman fellow is, he must be a bit of a moron.

He's the writer for the athletic that covers the Oilers. He's also just one of a long line of Oilers media who will defend Skinner with as much mental gymnastics as they can until the day they die. That Gregor article is just f***ing hilarious. Talks about all these areas where Gibson gives up a higher percentage of goals then Skinner, makes no mention of all the areas he clearly outperform him given his drastically better sv% and GSAA, and then goes on to say "its impossible to know if Gibson's Sv% and GSAA would perform this well on this Oilers team". HAHAHAHA

 

[VeteranPresence]

He's the writer for the athletic that covers the Oilers. He's also just one of a long line of Oilers media who will defend Skinner with as much mental gymnastics as they can until the day they die. That Gregor article is just f***ing hilarious. Talks about all these areas where Gibson gives up a higher percentage of goals then Skinner, makes no mention of all the areas he clearly outperform him given his drastically better sv% and GSAA, and then goes on to say "its impossible to know if Gibson's Sv% and GSAA would perform this well on this Oilers team". HAHAHAHA

The media circling the wagons like this tells me all is not well in Oilerland. There wouldn’t be this concerted effort to defend Stu otherwise.

 

[SupremeTeam16]

He's the writer for the athletic that covers the Oilers. He's also just one of a long line of Oilers media who will defend Skinner with as much mental gymnastics as they can until the day they die. That Gregor article is just f***ing hilarious. Talks about all these areas where Gibson gives up a higher percentage of goals then Skinner, makes no mention of all the areas he clearly outperform him given his drastically better sv% and GSAA, and then goes on to say "its impossible to know if Gibson's Sv% and GSAA would perform this well on this Oilers team". HAHAHAHA

It’s gonna be funny to watch you guys lose your shit when they trade for a goalie and still play him behind Skinner.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

The media circling the wagons like this tells me all is not well in Oilerland. There wouldn’t be this concerted effort to defend Stu otherwise.

Like I said, I am at my wits end.

The cream always rises to the top

If They do not upgrade the goalie, they will hear it forever.

If they do, and he performs admirably, they can say they gave it a shot.

I swear Oilers brain trust all run on what most humans do

Biggest fear is to fail, rather than just try. That's why most people are too scared to do anything. They freeze and are too scared to fail. You have to fail to succeed.

 

[McFlyingV]

It’s gonna be funny to watch you guys lose your shit when they trade for a goalie and still play him behind Skinner.

In all honesty I'd be fine with that as long as he's a goalie good enough to play consistently well when called upon. Skinner can be good, but he's not good often enough to be this team's only option other than Calvin f***ing Pickard, an AHL goalie who had his career saved by a very good Oilers team who was getting ECHL level goaltending to start that season.

 

[bobbythebrain]

I think Stu is a great teammate and the boys love him and maybe think he can still evolve. Timing is not their friend.


Just to be very clear....

You are fine with the goaltending?

Just to be clear..STU didn't steal my lunch money or start Covid, like almost everyone here thinks.

The Oilers need to replace and upgrade Pickard at this point in the year. It would be detrimental to trade or turn Stu into the publicized backup right now

Drai broke down Stuart’s game play by play? Where? Show me

Go back and watch Drai breakdown the last few playoff losses compared to what ya'll experts on here said. Biiiiiiiiiiiiiiigggggggggggg difference. And FYI, what he said actually made sense

 

[CanadasTeam99]

Nothing wrong with a bad opinion, but gotta add SupremeTeam to the Skinner brigade.

I appreciate your courage and ego here. and Naievte

Just to be clear..STU didn't steal my lunch money or start Covid, like almost everyone here thinks.

The Oilers need to replace and upgrade Pickard at this point in the year. It would be detrimental to trade or turn Stu into the publicized backup right now



Go back and watch Drai breakdown the last few playoff losses compared to what ya'll experts on here said. Biiiiiiiiiiiiiiigggggggggggg difference

Why though? What has Skinner done for it to be "detrimental"?

This is a business. Not a charity

In business you always cut off the weak links and add people up top. Unless we think "feelings" will play a part into this. Pretty simple. Cut the weak link off. Add an upgarde.

 

[Dirk Dangler]

He's the writer for the athletic that covers the Oilers. He's also just one of a long line of Oilers media who will defend Skinner with as much mental gymnastics as they can until the day they die. That Gregor article is just f***ing hilarious. Talks about all these areas where Gibson gives up a higher percentage of goals then Skinner, makes no mention of all the areas he clearly outperform him given his drastically better sv% and GSAA, and then goes on to say "its impossible to know if Gibson's Sv% and GSAA would perform this well on this Oilers team". HAHAHAHA

He even said that would be foolish to think Gibsons sv% and GSAA would translate on the oilers. He’s straight up calling anyone with that viewpoint a fool. But he is literally doing the exact same thing with his cherry picked obscure stats.

In Gegors world the bad stats can be extrapolated to come up with damning conclusions. But good stats are unreliable. He’s either completely disingenuous or doesn’t realize he’s the fool.

 

[bobbythebrain]

Nothing wrong with a bad opinion, but gotta add SupremeTeam to the Skinner brigade.

I appreciate your courage and ego here. and Naievte


Why though? What has Skinner done for it to be "detrimental"?

This is a business. Not a charity

In business you always cut off the weak links and add people up top. Unless we think "feelings" will play a part into this. Pretty simple. Cut the weak link off. Add an upgarde.

The team isn't fighting for a PO spot and is first in the div.. what aren't you comprehending here?

You really think half the roster despises Skinners efforts right now?

 

[McFlyingV]

He even said that would be foolish to think Gibsons sv% and GSAA would translate on the oilers. He’s straight up calling anyone with that viewpoint a fool. But he is literally doing the exact same thing with his cherry picked obscure stats.

In Gegors world the bad stats can be extrapolated to come up with damning conclusions. But good stats are unreliable. He’s either completely disingenuous or doesn’t realize he’s the fool.

Gregor has a long history of making some of the worst arguments and doing his best to sound smug and like the smartest guy in the room when he does it. He's an idiot.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

The team isn't fighting for a PO spot and is first in the div.. what aren't you comprehending here?

You really think half the roster despises Skinners efforts right now?

Do you think this goaltender can take us through 4 rounds without a record PK or Gretzky breaking records from the top 2?

We don't know what these guys think. I bet half don't give a f*** and love looking at their bank accounts with a ton of zeroes in it. I bet lots of players do.

The ones who REALLY care, I bet they want somebody that is more reliable.

I don't even get this defending of ANY player lol

How does that work? I am fine shitting on drai or McDavid here and there. They are all fair game.

But Stu> noooooooooo. We cannot do that. The last line of defense. It actually reminds of me of this new soft generation.

 

[SupremeTeam16]

In all honesty I'd be fine with that as long as he's a goalie good enough to play consistently well when called upon. Skinner can be good, but he's not good often enough to be this team's only option other than Calvin f***ing Pickard, an AHL goalie who had his career saved by a very good Oilers team who was getting ECHL level goaltending to start that season.

I agree. Pickard is a great insurance policy but they need a legitimate tandem option to pair with Skinner. Maybe Gibson is that guy but if he comes here it’ll be with sizeable retention and the Oilers won’t be giving up a ton for him.

 

[foshizzle]

The management is pinning its entire organization on Skinner. Will McDavid re-sign if it’s a round 1 exit? How many years of McDrai do you want to pin on this goalie?

It’s absolutely embarrassing that incompetent management has prevented those two from winning multiple cups already. I hope Scott and Gretzky aren’t in Boman’s ear.