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Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | With Klingberg in the Mix Who Are Our 7D After the Deadline?

Jimmi McJenkins said:
Maybe, depends on the situation, his game has come around, and more depth is always better.
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Skinner always puts up big points in Montreal. Like every single game. Even though we're rebuilding, I would like to add him as a vet to our young core if he's a cap dump, or to take back salary if you guys were to trade for one of our vets.
 
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Some more nerdy stats for you ladies and gentleman

Today's edition of Stu and another goalie vs Top Teams: Karel Vejmelka:​
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Vejmelka vs Winnipeg .926 (Stu was .615)

Vejmelka vs Dallas; Last Game: .897 & First Game: 905 (Stu was .870 vs them)

Vejmelka vs Washington; Last Game: .938 & First Game: .818 (Stu had an .786)

Vejmelka vs Colorado; Last Two Games:.958 & .943 & First Game: .808 (Stu's last game vs COL: .750, Game previous: .880, First Game: .964)

Vejmelka vs Florida .935 (Stu vs Florida .786)

Vejmelka vs Toronto .914 (Stu vs Toronto .857
Wow.

Consistency:

Vejmelka (34 GP) Games AT or Under .870: 8; Games under .800: 0

Skinner (37 GP) Games AT or Under 870: 13; Games under .800: 5

GSAx:

Vejmelka (minimum 20 Games) - GSAx: 15; GSAx per 60: 16

Skinner (minimum 20 Games) - GSAx: 35; GSAx per 60: 35
 
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BarDownBobo said:


I feel like this was a pretty informative breakdown of how it’s not a sure fire thing that Gibson would immediately be the savior here like many think. Two very specific scenarios that he struggles with that hypothetically would have resulted in 19 more goals against versus the tandem that’s currently here. It’s also a bit of insight into how much deeper of analytics actual teams have over what JFresh and Rono print into easily readable cards that are essentially clickbait.
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Yeah, this is the exact thing that the mgmt group, along with support from their analytics department of course, needs to be doing. Like Skinner is really bad at long distance shots that sneak through him, always has been. I have no idea whether Gibson is better/worse at that, but I'm sure there are relatively easy ways for our analytics guys to figure this out. It's what they are paid to do after all.
 
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26Mats said:
Skinner always puts up big points in Montreal. Like every single game. Even though we're rebuilding, I would like to add him as a vet to our young core if he's a cap dump, or to take back salary if you guys were to trade for one of our vets.
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That's probably an offseason thing, he seems pretty desperate to play playoff hockey, and the Oilers are excellent position to head there.

His game coming around has probably changed how the team is viewing him going forward, if he keeps this level of play up he'll be back to being a regular.
 
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brentashton said:
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I can tell from Leon's statements in there that Skinner really did have to learn "how" to play "Oilers' hockey," but kept working at it, and it looks like he and Draisaitl might be a pair going forward.
 
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McJadeddog said:
Yeah, this is the exact thing that the mgmt group, along with support from their analytics department of course, needs to be doing. Like Skinner is really bad at long distance shots that sneak through him, always has been. I have no idea whether Gibson is better/worse at that, but I'm sure there are relatively easy ways for our analytics guys to figure this out. It's what they are paid to do after all.
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Skinner is also really bad at facing and reading cross-ice-shots and breakaways. I mean like really bad.
 
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Vagabond said:
Skinner is also really bad at facing and reading cross-ice-shots and breakaways. I mean like really bad.
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And pucks moving from behind the net to in-front. It's his anticipation. The aforementioned Woodley mentioned the same during the playoffs. Dubnyk said the same earlier in the season
 
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Interesting to note that Dostal has 10 Games under that .870 mark (and one below .800) compared to Gibson's 4 games under .870 (none under .800) but with nine more games played, so using that .870 metric, that's 31% of the time where Dostal has underperformed, compared to Gibson at only 17% of the time. So Gibson isn't only more consistent than Skinner, he's also more consistent than his own teammate.
 
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Zerotonine said:
Alot of those are are because of the team more so then skinner. Don't get me wrong he certainly stole a game or 2 in the playoffs. But he has certainly cost us way more then that. We were just able to out score the opposition something for whatever reason we haven't be able to do this year. And perhaps that's why Skinner is sticking out like a sore thumb now.....
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Talking about skinners playoff wins is some of the laziest drivel I have ever read lol.

Absolutely lazy

Hey, Jason Caffey won 72 games for the Chicago Bulls in 95-96. You guys know that? Lulz

26Mats said:
Are you guys looking to move Jeff Skinner's cap hit?
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We would not mind purging all of the Skinners here
 
Heavy Dee said:
Verbeek would have seen lots of Savoie. If he is the ask for Gibson 50% retained you need to pull the trigger.
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Absolutely not. Gibson has been trash for a half decade until this season. Offer a 2nd+something small for a goalie that hasn't even been worth even half his contract and if Verbeek wants more, he can go kick rocks.
Imagine giving up your best prospect for a goalie that hasn't posted above a .904 save pct. since Talbot was an Oiler? No, just no
 
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McDNicks17 said:
I'm not sure Kevin Woodley is the right guy to pump tires over analytics. He's the guy that said the Oilers have by far the best goaltending in the division based on those numbers haha.

Then Steve Valiquette, who has access to those numbers too, posted that Skinner has the worst SV% in the league over the past three years against rush shots with left-right movement.
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I remember that Twitter exchange. Steve wrecked him. I like Woodley overall, but his take was laughable.
 
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Canadian NHL goalies, 2024-25 save percentage (minimum 25 starts):

Logan Thompson – .921
Darcy Kuemper – .919
Mackenzie Blackwood – .917
Cam Talbot – 906
NHL AVERAGE – .902

Adin Hill – .900
Stuart Skinner – .900
Sam Montembeault – .897
Jordan Binnington – .897
 
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