Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | With Klingberg in the Mix Who Are Our 7D After the Deadline?

[CanadasTeam99]

It would be the most Oilers thing ever to let a proven starter in this league go by us just because we don't want to offend the hometown kid who is flailing in the job and has been for the better part of two years.

It wouldn't surprise me. Big Braining themselves. Oilers are always the "smartest" in the room.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Gibson has had a tough last few years, he's 31 and so there's risk here.

When the Ducks were good, because they have not been, he was outstanding. I believe behind this team's defense he could get back to level. At $4M or less on the cap for 3 years is a good bet for this team. Especially if the reality of Skinner's struggles against the better team has set in with the team.

Skinner has had success in the NHL, is young, under contract and just went to game 7 of Stanley Cup final. We're frustrated with him, but he should have some value, imo.

Try to make this deal, if the Ducks will bite.

To ANA: Stuart Skinner, Beau Akey, 2025 2nd and 2027 2nd.

To EDM: John Gibson ($2.4M to 50% retained) and Pavel Mintyukov

 

[CanadasTeam99]

Gibson has had a tough last few years, he's 31 and so there's risk here.

When the Ducks were good, because they have not been, he was outstanding. I believe behind this team's defense he could get back to level. At $4M or less on the cap for 3 years is a good bet for this team. Especially if the reality of Skinner's struggles against the better team has set in with the team.

Skinner has had success in the NHL, is young, under contract and just when to game 7 of Stanley Cup final. We're frustrated with him, but he should have some value, imo.

Try to make this deal, if the Ducks will bite.

To ANA: Stuart Skinner, Beau Akey, 2025 2nd and 2027 2nd.

To EDM: John Gibson ($2.4M to 50% retained) and Pavel Mintyukov

So has Skinner, but he is behind a top 10 team.

Going to Game 7 is experience, but lets not act like he took them there. That is some nice "car salesman talk" to get them to take him actually.

Gibson needs retention 100%.

It's about risk evaluation/assessment here.

If we got Gibson retained, will he do worse than 900? Basically, will he be shittier than Skinner has been as a whole? Or will he be, at minimum, the low standard Skinner has set with benefits?

I know which one I would pick. It would be pretty hard to sh** the bed harder than Skinner has.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

To be honest, he's not going to tell the media what he's actually going to do. Fans were freaking out before Holland landed Ekholm.

I disagree. Calling it now that goalies and defence are set. You can still read between the tea leaves

 

[Took a pill in Sbisa]

Nedeljkovic quietly on a run.

0.934 in his last 8gp. Allowed 2 or less goals in 7 of those games.

 

[McAsuno]

 

[McTonyBrar]

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

This can happen for forwards too though, Eberle was getting paid 6 million dollars in 16-17 and had 0 goals for us in two playoff rounds, RNH stank it up too, both got outscored by (checks notes) Anton Slepyshev, who actually had more goals than both of them combined and he washed out of the NHL entirely 50 games later.

We've had tons of whiffs on forwards in the McDavid era too, really the only forward we've signed or traded for after Chia's first year that's been a slam dunk has been Hyman.

Lucic bombed here, Strome bombed, Spooner bombed (lol), Athansiou was a waste of 2 2nds, Neal had to be bought out, Connor Brown was a big whiff at 4 million, Arvidsson is not having a good season, J. Skinner can barely get top 6 playing time. I wouldn't label Henrique a slam dunk either.

We have a terrible win/loss rate on forwards being brought in here too.



I wouldn't expect a GM to telegraph what they are going to do in a pre-deadline interview to any media source. You're better off looking at Bob Stauffer's comments for getting a read on where the management's head is at.

Obviously not, but reading between the lines the defence is set. That is clear as day.

It's also clear as day we only get 1 forward. They don't want to upset the dressing room. So let's hope its not just "Ryan Donato"

The only thing I could see out of left field is goaltending.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

Gibson would win the job within a few days lol.

This is like Kramer fighting those young kids in Karate class in Seinfeld.

The "job" is actually open. We just have Stu trying to jump into that "job" boat. He isn't entrenched in there.

 

[oXo Cube]

Whether Gibson would be willing to waive for Edmonton or not, I'm just happy that the state of the goaltending is being actively discussed. That's a nice change.

 

[K1984]

Getting Gibson at 50% retained might be a good play cap wise too. Skinner has a $5M+ extension on the horizon, even if his game doesn't improve one iota. If nothing else, Gibson extends our "cheap goalie" window another season.

I'll probably get lambasted for even suggesting this, but I think there is still a goalie with Skinner so there is some risk of giving away an asset. The other side of that coin is we risk paying a healthy AAV to a guy that will just never figure it all out.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

Whether Gibson would be willing to waive for Edmonton or not, I'm just happy that the state of the goaltending is being actively discussed. That's a nice change.

This is wishful thinking, but maybe we are in the market for either:

Gibson + Donato type
or
top 6 forward.

Either works for me, but just a bottom 6 forward is pretty lame.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

So has Skinner, but he is behind a top 10 team.

Going to Game 7 is experience, but lets not act like he took them there. That is some nice "car salesman talk" to get them to take him actually.

Gibson needs retention 100%.

It's about risk evaluation/assessment here.

If we got Gibson retained, will he do worse than 900? Basically, will he be shittier than Skinner has been as a whole? Or will he be, at minimum, the low standard Skinner has set with benefits?

I know which one I would pick. It would be pretty hard to sh** the bed harder than Skinner has.

For sure, but you know who didn't? Jack Campbell.

I'm not suggesting Skinner carried the team to game 7, but he did his part in that run as well, it's kind of ignorant to pretend like he was "just there."

I'm suggesting he has some value to other teams.

Gibson is young enough to be worth the risk, but it is a risk.

 

[soothsayer]

Whether Gibson would be willing to waive for Edmonton or not, I'm just happy that the state of the goaltending is being actively discussed. That's a nice change.

Man, you said it. I question my own sanity when people like Rishaug or Gregor can't even believe people are talking about goaltending.

 

[Tarus]

Interesting

Oilers not only aware of the goaltending issues, but have been considering Gibson as an option all season despite the public votes of confidence in the existing tandem.

Hopefully that'll calm down some of the handwringing over the position until everything plays out at the trade deadline around here

 

[Jarvi]

Obviously not, but reading between the lines the defence is set. That is clear as day.

It's also clear as day we only get 1 forward. They don't want to upset the dressing room. So let's hope its not just "Ryan Donato"

The only thing I could see out of left field is goaltending.

God, I hope not. I was a fan of signing Klingberg, but not to just give him a spot. He has looked okay, but if there isn't some improvement or someone comes onto the market that is a sure thing, it's stupid to call this defense set. I've liked his passing, but he has had some Bouch like fumbles, and outside of the Chicago game he is a minus player so far. I do think we need to give him some more time, but if a deal fell into our lap for Dobson, Pulock, or someone of that caliber, it's silly to turn it down at this point.

That doesn't even consider what would happen if one of our LHD went down. We have zero depth on that side after the main roster.

And rocking the room over a trade where we send out picks/prospects for an upgrade shouldn't be a concern. Colorado just traded one of their best players and look better for it. Vegas won a cup being the most ruthless franchise around. And we're sitting here worrying about Kasperi Kapanen, John Klingberg, or Calvin Pickard's feelings? Joke franchise if that's their mentality.

 

[Soundwave]

Obviously not, but reading between the lines the defence is set. That is clear as day.

It's also clear as day we only get 1 forward. They don't want to upset the dressing room. So let's hope its not just "Ryan Donato"

The only thing I could see out of left field is goaltending.

If Gibson is an add, I wouldn't be surprised to see Dumoulin coming with him. Again I don't think those kinds of interviews have any value because a GM isn't going to tell anyone what they're looking for.

 

[VeteranPresence]

Interesting

Oilers not only aware of the goaltending issues, but have been considering Gibson as an option all season despite the public votes of confidence in the existing tandem.

Hopefully that'll calm down some of the handwringing over the position until everything plays out at the trade deadline around here

I'm not really getting that from what is being said, especially when Friedman point blank mentioned it is not "as likely as it might have been earlier in the season” because they don't want to anoint Gibson the starter.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

For sure, but you know who didn't? Jack Campbell.

I'm not suggesting Skinner carried the team to game 7, but he did his part in that run as well, it's kind of ignorant to pretend like he was "just there."

I'm suggesting he has some value to other teams.

Gibson is young enough to be worth the risk, but it is a risk.

Skinner played well in games too. I do not want to minimize his contribution.

He just is not reliable. He is not the guy who makes timely saves that you need.

Jack Campbell played like a Vezina goalie for 1.5-2 months around November/Dec I believe and then tanked hard. Sub 900 the rest of the year.

Leaf fans were telling everybody this.

And this was on a good team. Not a bad team.

Our big brained management took the bait. Whichever dumbo scouted him and watched "100 hours of video" lol.

 

[McTonyBrar]

I hope we actually get Gibson. At least we know there's at least been some chatter

 

[Soundwave]

Skinner played well in games too. I do not want to minimize his contribution.

He just is not reliable. He is not the guy who makes timely saves that you need.

Jack Campbell played like a Vezina goalie for 1.5-2 months around November/Dec I believe and then tanked hard. Sub 900 the rest of the year.

Leaf fans were telling everybody this.

And this was on a good team. Not a bad team.

Our big brained management took the bait. Whichever dumbo scouted him and watched "100 hours of video" lol.

The fact that the Leafs sent Campbell home in the middle of the season to get his head together even in that "good year" he had should have been an enormous red flag. I've almost never heard of that ever happening.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

I'm not really getting that from what is being said, especially when Friedman point blank mentioned it is not "as likely as it might have been earlier in the season” because they don't want to anoint Gibson the starter.

It's very childish, but if they think this and we go like this going forward, I hope it blows up hard in their faces.

The fact that the Leafs sent Campbell home in the middle of the season to get his head together even in that "good year" he had should have been an enormous red flag. I've almost never heard of that ever happening.

Oilers brass has what we call "tunnel vision"

 

[McTonyBrar]

Whether Gibson would be willing to waive for Edmonton or not, I'm just happy that the state of the goaltending is being actively discussed. That's a nice change.

Honestly, I think knew there would be talk about Skinner and goaltending after what Stauffer said after the last game

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

It's very childish, but if they think this and we go like this going forward, I hope it blows up hard in their faces.


Oilers brass has what we call "tunnel vision"

No they just have a bad case of "Very f***ing stupid."

 

[FlameChampion]

The dude is 31. We used a 40 year old Mike Smith. He has more mobility than a younger Skinner

I was talking about Skinner in my comment in reference to the people thinking he will break out somewhere else.