Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | With Klingberg in the Mix Who Are Our 7D After the Deadline?

[McJadeddog]

To be honest, he's not going to tell the media what he's actually going to do. Fans were freaking out before Holland landed Ekholm.

Yeah, I have no idea what they are going to do, and neither does anybody else. Even if they don't do anything regarding a certain position, say goalie that doesn't mean that they weren't TRYING to do something. Putting any weight on what a GM says in public isn't very wise. There aren't many who will come right out and say what they are trying to do after all.

 

[backhandsauce]

Gibson would be an unreal get.

Has a 915 Save % on the Ducks this year.

 

[Jarvi]

If management doesn't make some significant adds, i will have lost faith in them. Skinner is not a cup contending goalie. Klingberg hasn't cemented himself as a good enough partner for Nurse in the top 4. We could use a forward or two.

We made it to the finals last year from generational play by 3.5 guys. I put a half because of Drai's injury effecting him so much in the later rounds. Can we expect Bouchard, who looks worse this year than last, to have one of the best scoring playoffs by a dman ever, again? Can we expect McDavid (who has looked fairly pedestrian by his standards this season) to have one of the best playoff runs of all time? How about Hyman to score 16 goals in a run, again, having a down year. Not to mention the PK we had last year missing significant pieces this time, or some of the youth that really shined for us not there this time around.

We can continue to evaluate Klingberg, for sure. 5 games or whatever isnt enough after his layoff. But with some of the names out there being exactly what we are missing (Dobson, Gibson, Donato, Evans), its ridiculous to just stand pat.

I really hope they are just playing their cards close to their chest.

 

[McJadeddog]

I really don't want to be spending significant assets for even more bottom 6 forwards, we have too many bottom 6 forwards as is. The bottom 6 isn't the problem with the team. If Kane is LTIRed for the regular season and back for the playoffs, that's probably another guy who is going to the bottom 6.

We also have a guy like Philip who could easily step in and play minutes in the playoffs. We could also bring up Savoie for am iddle-6 position. I just don't see anything outside a true scoring winger being a priority in the forwards group at all.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

Gibson would be an unreal get.

Has a 915 Save % on the Ducks this year.

Just wait for some pretzel mathing refuting he is any good.

15 basis points higher than our guy on a top team LMAO

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Gibson would be an unreal get.

Has a 915 Save % on the Ducks this year.

It's his last five years that have me concerned.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

It's his last five years that have me concerned.

Show us his teams last 5 years HDC against SCA VS Edmontons

I will help you out here

This year so far

ANA has given up THE MOST HDC against with 575

Edmonton has given up the 2nd least with 427

Anaheim has given up the 2nd most scoring chances with 1361. Only SJ is worse (Hey, Blackwood!!).

Edmonton has given up 7th least with 1121

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Show us his teams last 5 years HDC against SCA VS Edmontons

I will help you out here

This year so far

ANA has given up THE MOST HDC against with 575

Edmonton has given up the 2nd least with 427

You're right, Anaheim is a worse team than us. But it's the sample size of this year that makes me wonder how sustainable it is. His stats have been in very steady decline the past 5 years including an absolutely horrific 2023-24 campaign.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

You're right, Anaheim is a worse team than us. But it's the sample size of this year that makes me wonder how sustainable it is. His stats have been in very steady decline the past 5 years including an absolutely horrific 2023-24 campaign. View attachment 975559

It's about watching him in a vacuum. His movements. His puck tracking. His poise.

Nobody has time to do it. I have watched 10+ games of Gibson. Looks MILES better than Skinner. Instills confidence. He has had some sh** games too, but he is more consistent. He is pretty quick on his feet, doesn't bobble the puck much.

Then you have intangibles. He would be coming to a contender and have fresh life in him. You cannot quantify drive

Stan is an absolute moron if he doesn't upgrade this position with Gibson or somebody else. Fireable offense.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

It's about watching him in a vacuum. His movements. His puck tracking. His poise.

Nobody has time to do it. I have watched 10+ games of Gibson. Looks MILES better than Skinner. Instills confidence. He has had some sh** games too, but he is more consistent.

Okay, so what exactly is different about this year compared to the previous five? That's what I want to know. I read a lot of comments from Ducks fans about him and let's just say the reviews were not very glowing.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

Okay, so what exactly is different about this year compared to the previous five? That's what I want to know. I read a lot of comments from Ducks fans about him and let's just say the reviews were not very glowing.

I am comparing him to Skinner if he was behind our team.

Ducks are a trash garbage team. We are so conditioned to bad goaltending.

I am looking at his movements, his puck tracking, just how he looks overall. Numbers still don't lie. Plus his pedigree

Like it boggles my brain that this management group is even pondering this. It's like I am in the twilight zone.

We are discussing bringing in an apple pie over the feces filled pie we have now

I don't know about you, but I like Apple pie. Wouldn't think of trying the other one. We have smelled that stench for 2 years

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

I am comparing him to Skinner if he was behind our team.

Ducks are a trash garbage team. We are so conditioned to bad goaltending.

I am looking at his movements, his puck tracking, just how he looks overall. Numbers still don't lie. Plus his pedigree

Like it boggles my brain that this management group is even pondering this. It's like I am in the twilight zone.

We are discussing bringing in an apple pie over the feces filled pie we have now

I'm all for upgrading the goaltending if its a sure thing. If this was even a year ago it wouldn't be a question as everything about Gibson screamed that he was toast. Dostal has really good numbers too in Anaheim, which makes me think there's more going on.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

I'm all for upgrading the goaltending if its a sure thing. If this was even a year ago it wouldn't be a question as everything about Gibson screamed that he was toast. Dostal has really good numbers too in Anaheim, which makes me think there's more going on.

What more is going on?

2 goalies playing as well as they can under extreme duress?

Unless the statisticians are fudging numbers?

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

What more is going on?

2 goalies playing as well as they can under extreme duress?

Unless the statisticians are fudging numbers?

Is it the system of the Ducks? Goaltending coach? If anything I'd be far more interested in Dostal.

 

[McDoused]

What about this blockbuster?

Conversely, you could ship one of Arvidsson/J.Skinner out and you could keep Skinner.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

Is it the system of the Ducks? Goaltending coach? If anything I'd be far more interested in Dostal.

If their system is to give up a shitload of scoring and high danger chances, I don't think they should continue that system.

Is it the system of the Ducks? Goaltending coach? If anything I'd be far more interested in Dostal.

Yeah me too. I would blow my load for Dostal, but that is No bueno

And for the contrarians here, yes I know, HDC can all be different, but I have seen a large enough sample size.

I know in one game 10 HDC could be crest muffins from the "high danger area" and in another game 10 could be top corner snipes. It all evens out

 

[jlockhart89]

John Gibson would arguably be the most talented goalie the Oilers have had since Cujo… got get him

 

[CanadasTeam99]

You have to fail in life, usually a few times, to succeed and learn from your lessons.

It's like Edmonton is scared of failing again after Campbell.

He wasn't a good bet.

I understand you can't just throw assets out the window, but I would take this bet and he has another year. They CANNOT go into the playoffs with this tandem.

I would rather fail again than not do anything

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

You have to fail in life, usually a few times, to succeed and learn from your lessons.

It's like Edmonton is scared of failing again after Campbell.

He wasn't a good bet.

I understand you can't just throw assets out the window, but I would take this bet and he has another year. They CANNOT go into the playoffs with this tandem.

It's not just Campbell though. This org has gotten goaltending wrong for almost this entire millennium with a few blips (Talbot in '17, Roloson in '06). This is a fundamental issue for this team, their solutions are always half-assed band-aids that never pan out well in the long term (or in Campbell's case, at all). There's problems deeper than just "Talbot/Smith/Koskinen/Campbell/Skinner isn't good enough".

 

[foshizzle]

Per Friedman in 32 thoughts...

giving credit to a comphockee_7388 on Reddit for posting as well as the timestamp (42:30)

“He wants a chance to go on a run and prove he’s the guy on a top team….if it’s the Gibson-Skinner combo, I’m not sure that’s gonna appeal to him”

“Gibson to Edmonton I don’t know if it’s still as likely as it might have been earlier in the season for that reason. I heard that could potentially be a factor”

”Early in the season I heard Gibson was a possibility for Edmonton, then I heard maybe less so if it wasn’t as the clear cut number one”

He also adds, Gibson's chosen destinations were Edmonton and the Canes

 

[Jarvi]

That's the whole point. We someone who can adapt to McDavid. Drai can produce with Podkolzin and others fine but giving up Savoie without seeing if he can work with McDavid would be sad

Umm, Hyman scored 70 goals on Davo's wing last year and Davo has averaged like 130pts or something stupid since he got here. We don't need someone to adapt to McDavid, we need the guys on that line who have proved they can produce in the past, to pick it up.

McDavids wingers are pacing for like 50 pts, Drais best is like, 36. Draisaitl is producing despite having low end talent beside him. Podkolzin has no history of being a productive top 6er, and Arvidsson might just be toast after an injury riddled career. Getting Draisaitl a winger that can produce with him is a much higher priority than replacing Hyman/Nuge or whatever your suggesting.

Plus, we want to break Savoie in so he doesn't have to be a savior, but rather where he has the best opportunity to succeed. I think beside our best defensive C, and best scorer is that spot.

 

[McDoused]

Friedman:

"We talked about Ryan Donato on Saturday. I think the Oilers are one of the teams looking at Donato who is a very manageable salary - 2 Million AAV up at the end of the season. Scored his 19th goal the other night."

"One of the things I heard during the season was that Gibson's preferences were Edmonton and Carolina... The Edmonton thing is really interesting because I don't know where it came from last week... what I heard was that Gibson wants a situation where hes gonna be the #1. He wants to be the guy. So I dont know if a Gibson Skinner duo is going to work for him."

"Gibson wants the chance to go on a run and prove he can be the guy on a top team. If its the Gibson Skinner combo, im not sure thats going to appeal to him".

Bukauskas chimes in "I guess the tricky part is if you want to go to a team with a chance to win now, teams usually win now because in some shape or form they have good goaltending. Not taking anything way from Johns resume because hes proven he can be a very good goaltender but does it get to the point where he says ill roll the dice?"

Friedman: "Thats what I would do. I like to bet on myself... I would just take the plunge and go there and win the job. Show what you can do".

 

[VeteranPresence]

Per Friedman in 32 thoughts...

giving credit to a comphockee_7388 on Reddit for posting as well as the timestamp (42:30)





He also adds, Gibson's chosen destinations were Edmonton and the Canes

It would be the most Oilers thing ever to let a proven starter in this league go by us just because we don't want to offend the hometown kid who is flailing in the job and has been for the better part of two years.

 

[soothsayer]

Per Friedman in 32 thoughts...

giving credit to a comphockee_7388 on Reddit for posting as well as the timestamp (42:30)





He also adds, Gibson's chosen destinations were Edmonton and the Canes

Reading between the lines, it sounds like the Oilers may have wanted to bring Gibson in to replace Pickard and give the Oilers a 1a-1b punch with him and Skinner, but Gibson didn't want to go into a situation where he was splitting time. Maybe that trade depends on Gibson bitting the bullet and accepting a 1a role.

A Gibson-Skinner tandem is better than a Gibson- Pickard one. Though I think Gibson will remind everyone that he is a top 10 goalie if given the chance on a competitive team, and he will be the clear number 1 by the start of the playoffs.

 

[foshizzle]

It would be the most Oilers thing ever to let a proven starter in this league go by us just because we don't want to offend the hometown kid who is flailing in the job and has been for the better part of two years.

hahah yes. Happened this Summer when we lost the Sylvain Rodrigue to Florida because theyc ouldn't fire the home town kid Dustin Schwartz