Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | With Klingberg in the Mix Who Are Our 7D After the Deadline?

[Mr Positive]

It’s not like Klingberg was some sort of defensive stalwart before the injury so I’m not sure why some people have their hopes that high.

My hopes are pretty high considering he was the #1D on a team that went deep in the playoffs (bubble playoffs mind you, but still). I am expecting him to be somewhere between that and not good enough for the NHL. My guess is that he will remind us of Stecher, but better. He's not that old for a defenseman.

Also I don't think Nurse needs a great defensive partner. Time has shown that his pairing will do well if the RD on it is mobile and skilled (thats where the aftermath of the surgery is a big factor). Being a complementary fit is a great reason to be optimistic about them doing well.

Also, he's joining a team with a great defensive system with total buy in from every player. If Klingberg has bad habits he will obsess on eliminating him.

The only worry I have about him is his physical condition

 

[foshizzle]

Wait til hell freezes over for all I care

lol.

 

[K1984]

Yeah - if they don't trade Rantanen for Necas they basically have no market for him; only a contender would want him, and no contender really has the cap to make it work outside of Carolina or is in the West which is a shit show. It's a shit show as it is - but like Avs fans would riot if he was traded to Vegas for example.

No non-contender is trading for an expiring Rantanen mid season.

So if they weren't confident on getting a deal done, and Carolina is telling you they're maybe piling the trigger on Miller or EP40 - you're between a rock and a hard place.

I think the better move is still probably keeping Rantanen for the playoffs run and trying to get him signed before ufa, but maybe they had an extreme lack of warm and fuzzies. I see the logic.

But I think it's a huge error in general - they should have had Rantanen locked up in the summer like we did with Draisaitl.

This is a good point. This was probably the only realistic hockey deal out there that could actually return a player that has a chance of making an impact.

Still amazed they didn't re-sign him. I'm looking forward to seeing what they're going to do from here to build out the depth that they think they were restricted from doing by having Rantanen. Will be a test case for all the off season geniuses that were convinced that the Oilers were dumb for re-signing Draisaitl to that deal because "depth!"

 

[Mcnotloilersfan]

Fabbro, Carrier, Kovacevic, Blackwood. The moves were there but Bowman and Jackson were too busy scouring waivers and the rehab pile to part with actual assets.

We weren't in a cap position to make those moves. We all know the majority of deals for us come right at the deadline. We can't make every single trade and waiver claim (although you seem mad that we also did do some. lol)

 

[foshizzle]

Not so sure about this statement. What are you taking and running with? A guy who arguably is not a reliable defenceman day in and day out? A guy who gives up on plays? A guy who in a span of a several games will make the same dumb cross ice pass in his defensive zone when the safer up the boards play is available to him? Are we running with the gut who cannot get himself set up this season for the one time shot which is is his only real marketable asset?

I am sorry, but there are WAY better players who could be available for less money. We are smarter to send a message that we won't tolerate anything but your best. 97 deserves no less as do other teammates.

This has nothing to do with what you have "done" for us in the past. The past is gone. What is he doing now and what will he do moving forward? Based on his resume this year, sweet f all. Only idiots reward that level of stupidity (referring to our management if they do this). I would be ok with a $4.5M bridge deal, but even that....FFS, you can get so much more from others.

Ive shown you his analytics that proved you are just wrong. Go ahead, name the players better. I’ll wait.

 

[Canovin]

Fabbro, Carrier, Kovacevic, Blackwood. The moves were there but Bowman and Jackson were too busy scouring waivers and the rehab pile to part with actual assets.

The same move on the Oilers side was Emberson. He's just not there yet like the others due to age. He's only 24. Give him 2 years.

Our biggest add would most likely be someone like Marcus Petterson.

 

[The Nuge]

lol why be a defender if you can’t defend? It should not be either/ or

The Canucks this year have used Erik Brannstrom, Guillame Brisebois, and Mark Friedman on the PK, rather than put Hughes out there. Does that mean Hughes is crap?

Fabbro, Carrier, Kovacevic, Blackwood. The moves were there but Bowman and Jackson were too busy scouring waivers and the rehab pile to part with actual assets.

The difference is the pieces we acquired fit our cap. You don’t take on a bad contract, and go into LTIR, for a minor upgrade

My hopes are pretty high considering he was the #1D on a team that went deep in the playoffs (bubble playoffs mind you, but still). I am expecting him to be somewhere between that and not good enough for the NHL. My guess is that he will remind us of Stecher, but better.

Also I don't think Nurse needs a great defensive partner. Time has shown that his pairing will do well if the RD on it is mobile and skilled (thats where the aftermath of the surgery is a big factor). Being a complementary fit is a great reason to be optimistic about them doing well.

Ya, the best we ever saw Nurse was with Barrie, to the point where he was in discussion for the Norris. With Nurse already having a bounce back year, I’m hoping Klingberg can elevate him further.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

McCarron I have little interest in, don't know what people see in him outside of being big and stuff, but I'd be really interested in Tanev. Him at a reduced number would be a nice add assuming it doesn't cost more than a 3rd or something like that.

So McCarron is under $1M on the cap, and signed through next year, he plays on the PK and is over 50% in the dot as Right Handed faceoff taker.

I think he could help, but yeah Tanev is very interesting for making the Oilers even more frustrating for teams.

 

[bobbythebrain]

lol why be a defender if you can’t defend? It should not be either/ or

Why be a forward if you can't score?

Yet we've seen Podz have success here simply cuz he retrieves pucks

 

[Mr Positive]

The Canucks this year have used Erik Brannstrom, Guillame Brisebois, and Mark Friedman on the PK, rather than put Hughes out there. Does that mean Hughes is crap?



The difference is the pieces we acquired fit our cap. You don’t take on a bad contract, and go into LTIR, for a minor upgrade



Ya, the best we ever saw Nurse was with Barrie, to the point where he was in discussion for the Norris. With Nurse already having a bounce back year, I’m hoping Klingberg can elevate him further.

Ultimately though, we are counting on Klingberg to regain his mobility, and he had a hip surgery. So he could crash and burn. I'd say even if the surgery was a success, but not a big enough success, he could also crash and burn.

 

[The Nuge]

Ultimately though, we are counting on Klingberg to regain his mobility, and he had a hip surgery. So he could crash and burn. I'd say even if the surgery was a success, but not a big enough success, he could also crash and burn.

He’s said his hip is the best it’s been in his entire career, so I don’t think it’s unreasonable to think he’ll have regained his mobility

 

[Mr Positive]

He’s said his hip is the best it’s been in his entire career, so I don’t think it’s unreasonable to think he’ll have regained his mobility

I really do think he could be as good as he was at his peak in Dallas.

And talk about motivation! Everyone loves to rip on him for turning down that 7 million. This is his big chance to rewrite the narrative on him

 

[Mikey71]

I don't think Nurse specifically needs a great offensive OR defensive type of partner. IMHO what he does need is one that plays a consistent and predictable game. Lets face it, Nurse doesn't have the greatest hockey IQ. He has got himself in trouble most often when his partner does something different (Ceci) and Nurse has never been able to read that on the fly and adjust. If and when he gets to settle in and not have to adjust on the fly in game, he is actually a pretty good defenceman. I think the best choice is someone that can keep his game settled down. A Ekholm lite I guess is what I hope for.

 

[McHelpus]

Not to be negative, but Nurse having 1 good season with Barrie during the bubble year doesn't mean he will be good with Klingberg.

I hope im wrong though.

 

[McTonyBrar]

Darren Dreger says Oilers aren't closing the door on them making a big deal. The team still remembers where they lost in the playoffs and, defensively, it is dependent on how Klingberg does until the deadline.

 

[foshizzle]

So McCarron is under $1M on the cap, and signed through next year, he plays on the PK and is over 50% in the dot as Right Handed faceoff taker.

I think he could help, but yeah Tanev is very interesting for making the Oilers even more frustrating for teams.

Frederic and McCarron would be the perfect trade deadline pickups. If we can upgrade Pickard- even better.

My dream scenario is EK65 at 50%, Frederic with retention, McCarron with retention. J Skinner moved to make the cap work. I know there is no way this happens- but one can dream

 

[Canovin]

Frederic and McCarron would be the perfect trade deadline pickups. If we can upgrade Pickard- even better.

My dream scenario is EK65 at 50%, Frederic with retention, McCarron with retention. J Skinner moved to make the cap work. I know there is no way this happens- but one can dream

Imagine having a dream and only dreamt up of 34 year old Karlsson, Frederic and McCarron on the Oilers

 

[foshizzle]

Not to be negative, but Nurse having 1 good season with Barrie during the bubble year doesn't mean he will be good with Klingberg.

I hope im wrong though.

I tend to ignore the bubble. If you look at Nurse- the less he plays in zone defense the better player he is. Ceci couldn’t move the puck to save his life. Klingberg is an excellent puck mover and good at puck retrievals- which allows Nurse to be more aggressive. Knob and Coffey also believe in the possession game- the more you have the puck the less you play defence. Oilers are already first in the league on that front- adding Klingberg will only help. The more you have the puck the less defence you play.

Imagine having a dream and only dreamt up of 34 year old Karlsson, Frederic and McCarron on the Oilers

Dream has to be somewhat realistic. 34 year old Karlsson is still excellent and hasn’t lost a step. The oilers don’t need much

 

[FlameChampion]

What ever happened to Nikita Tryamkin? Why did he leave the NHL?

Tired of Canucks fans and team drama

 

[Spawn]

He’s said his hip is the best it’s been in his entire career, so I don’t think it’s unreasonable to think he’ll have regained his mobility

Klingberg would hardly be the 1st athlete to claim that now they are “healthy” they’re ready to regain past glory.

Of course he’s going to say these things.

 

[Stud Muffin]

Can we please stop this McCarron B.S? He's literally a big Jared Smithson. He sucks point blank.

 

[Da McBomb]

With Klingberg now... that's going to be another player in this lineup that we added without giving any assets away. Along with Kapanen, Philp, and E. Kane... that's 4 additions without any subtractions for the playoffs. Pretty good asset management.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

But then



That's a choice lol

Can we please stop this McCarron B.S? He's literally a big Jared Smithson. He sucks point blank.



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Fair enough, I thought he played better defense.

 

[McTonyBrar]

Yeah, and with a defense corps with one quality own zone defender Ekholm (who looks off and is playing a lot more minutes), that's a concern.

And please spare me the #1 defense nonsense. Yeah they have the best goal share and xG, but when the postseason comes, and the game tightens up, teams forecheck hard and refs swallow their whistles, all the "entry denial", zone exits and stretch passes in the world aren't going to be able to hold a 1 goal lead when penned into our own zone.

Sorry but Nurse and Kulak have been great in the D zone. Emberson has gotten better.

Lol they've been doing it all season. They did it in the playoffs with friggin Ceci in the top 4. Why can't they do it this year?

 

[McTonyBrar]

Fabbro, Carrier, Kovacevic, Blackwood. The moves were there but Bowman and Jackson were too busy scouring waivers and the rehab pile to part with actual assets.

Blackwood has kind of started to stink ever since we beat Colorado



Well that's odd