KeithIsActuallyBad
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There's a reason why Klingberg was completely out of the league. Hope he's fixed whatever issues he had.
Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | With Klingberg in the Mix Who Are Our 7D After the Deadline?
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Oh no! We might eat a little bit of money while taking a risk on a player. (A VERY LITTLE BIT OF MONEY).
You are right... it is much much better to leave a hole on D all season for magical beans that might be available later.
But which puckmovers exist at the current moment? We sat on our ass and didn't try for Fowler or Carrier.
Yeah.. that is generally what injuries do... put you out... and what surgery does... fixes issues...
KeithIsActuallyBad
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Like his complete inability to play defense?
If this is the only addition to the defense we see then it's a failure of management.
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Yes, and I hope he's recovered as well, but as PP replacement for Bouchard and just a top-4 guy with a bullet, we might want to slow our roll on that yet is the larger point.
I'm excited for the add, but it still remains to be seen what kind of game he has.
I completely agree. It is an interesting experiment. I just can't believe how salty people are. Like.. if we signed him for 4 million or something, sure, but 1.75 is nothing. If he can give us 75% of what he was before the hips got too bad to play, its a win. I also think that even if his skating is sub par, he will give us more that Stetcher is...
If we were the only team interested, sure. But they’re was multiple contenders, who were interested.
Hyperbole doesn't help. Our defense is excellent currently (other than Stetcher). We don't need a HUGE add. The way you talk you would think the oil were missing the playoffs or something. We are freaking 5th in the league. I feel like people like you are only happy if we are undefeated, have the top 5 scorers, the top rookie and the top three norris candidates.
I mean if he is actually not in pain all the time likes he said, his defensr should be a little better
KeithIsActuallyBad
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Your hyperbole doesn't help either. It's nothing like what you describe. I'm more worried about how thin the defense is if someone gets hurt. And Klingberg does not impress me. He's been a tirefire in his own end for years now.
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Our defense may look excellent now, but come postseason when games are tighter and pressure on, teams forecheck harder and there's less space to make plays, can they actually defend in our zone?
Sure the "denying entry", zone exits, stretch passes, Corsi, etc. looks real good in the regular season, but adding another puck mover in Klingberg who wasn't good defensively before his injury doesn't move the needle.
I'd like to see an own zone crease clearer added on the right side and play with Kulak on the third pair, and be used on own-zone starts, PK and retaining leads in the postseason.
I'm also concerned by all the added minutes Ekholm has been playing carrying two #7 D early in the season and how it's affected his play. If he's not 100% in the playoffs, someone else has to step up in tough minutes, and Bouchard, Nurse and Klingberg all have own zone deficiencies.
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I mean he explained himself why he had such a hard time defending. Why you purposely ignore that his injury clearly had a massive impact on his game the last couple of years is beyond me.
But Klingberg was never a great defender even at his peak. This is just a signing that makes no sense and has very little realistic chance of paying off big.
Unfortunately it also fits the larger pattern of Bowman not wanting/bothering to offer actual assets for actual solutions. He's been a massive disappointment thus far outside the Podkolzin acquisition, you can't be just trading 3rd/4ths or pillaging waivers at this point in our competitive window. You have to go all-in.
KeithIsActuallyBad
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Yes, obviously injuries hurt that. But there's still a thinking part to the game too.
You should worry about Skinner. Our defense has been fine actually
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Couldn't you say that about ANY team. Oh when the game completely changed will the team handle it? We are a team that is rooted in break opportunities. You MUST HAVE good puck movers in that system. It is more critical than anything. It is how our entire team is built. It isn't like we are freaking LA with no stars and no choice but to shut down. THEY need defensive stay at home defensemen. WE need puck movers. You can make the argument that the mix is off because Nurse can't move the puck to save his life - because he can skate it out, but we still need the defence to move the freaking puck while he is out there. We had a big, crease clearing, cycle breaking defenceman last year - how many minutes did he play in the finals? What was our biggest problems in the playoffs? It was goaltending inconsistency and goal scoring.
We couldn't score goals because we couldn't play our game because no one could move the freaking puck.
We are the best in the league at scoring off the rush - that is our bread and butter. We have built a team around offensive juggernauts. We are built to win 5-4. We are built to fly fast and hard.
Your crease clearing defensive defenseman isn't as important as moving the damn puck up to those superstars.
KeithIsActuallyBad
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I'm not the one paid to do that, and the ones that are say he's fine.
But that's not the point. It's team health.
Have you heard his interviews - He LITERALLY says that he couldn't move his freaking body the way he wanted. So he tried to adjust his game for it and it didn't work. Hence deciding on the surgery. He LITERALLY said he couldn't play the way he was thinking the game anymore.
KeithIsActuallyBad
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He wasn't great at defense even before his injuries. I don't know why you're taking such offense to that notion.
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Klingberg just has to be better than Stecher for the signing to be a win, and that's well within the realm of possibility.
I think fans expecting another Ekholm at the deadline are setting themselves up for disappointment, that player just isn't available right now.
I think fans expecting another Ekholm at the deadline are setting themselves up for disappointment, that player just isn't available right now.
I never took offense to that... that wasn't what you were saying.. Are you 12? Realize you are being dumb so try to make it look like you were arguing something else?
Klingberg isn't here to be great at defensive hockey. He's an insurance in case of Bouchard's brainfarts or injuries while also providing offense from the backend. Stecher brings offense as well but he's also a bandaid. You're overthinking it too much.
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Not sure what you were watching, it wasn't moving the puck why we couldn't score its because we overpassed in the offensive zone and nobody would make a tough play in a tough area to get a quality scoring chance. So what will you say when the goals dry up again, as they do in postseason competition and we let in goal after backbreaking goal. Blame the goalie for not being Grant Fuhr at the back?
And I'd hope the OIlers would get someone with a better overall game than Ceci, seems silly that you project his poor second half of the season onto all crease clearing defensemen.
Also, "Offensive Juggernauts" don't win cups since the 80s, solid all-around teams do. Putting all our eggs in the rush offense basket is setting you up for disappointment, besides outside of the top 5 or 6 who really contributes offense on this year's team? Who plays all the rest of those minutes?
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Oilers want D that can move the puck up the ice. He absolutely fits what they are trying to do. There’s a reason why our D is so good on ice but not good on paper.
