Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Where's The Beef?

[Shanahanigans]

The Oilers spent 10 million dollars to “upgrade” the forwards (Arvidsson, Skinner, and retaining Henrique) and not any one of these guys is on pace to hit 20 goals.

Now apparently we need to spend even moar! On top of the 4 mill total bill on Connor Brown this year.

They pissed away Broberg and Holloway for f*** all and now we are supposed to make OK with this Dollar Store budget goaltending tandem.

Send Henrique’s ass back to Anaheim or Arvidsson out if that’s what it takes to make Gibson’s salary work. They are not bringing nearly enough to the table.

The bottom 6 pisses me off so much man. We got older, slower and less productive for absolutely no reason. Like Skinner was bought out by freaking BUFFALO because he couldn't hack it there. Remember, they have plenty of cap space and would love a good mentor for their young guys, but even they decided he wasn't it. Henrique was demolished at 5v5 as 3C last playoffs. Janmark and Brown were 4th liners last year who were elevated to 3rd line this year. Nuge has fallen off a cliff. What are we spending money on exactly? Mcdrai to carry us like the the pre 2022 Oilers? Even in 2022 a healthy Kane was much more productive than our 4th most productive fwd right now.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Can you provide a 1000 foot scouting report? Just going by numbers (gasp! I said I would never do that!) he seems to have done with a rebuilding PHX team last year, but has really struggled with the mountain air... any ideas what gives?

He got injured and lost him mom this year, so I think there's been a few things.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

The bottom 6 pisses me off so much man. We got older, slower and less productive for absolutely no reason. Like Skinner was bought out by freaking BUFFALO because he couldn't hack it there. Remember, they have plenty of cap space and would love a good mentor for their young guys, but even they decided he wasn't it. Henrique was demolished at 5v5 as 3C last playoffs. Janmark and Brown were 4th liners last year who were elevated to 3rd line this year. Nuge has fallen off a cliff. What are we spending money on exactly? Mcdrai to carry us like the the pre 2022 Oilers? Even in 2022 a healthy Kane was much more productive than our 4th most productive fwd right now.

I still don't understand why they didn't pony up for Holloway. Oilers could've easily matched that then sat him down and asked about what he wants in a role for the team. He's doing very well on the Blues.

 

[North]

The bottom 6 pisses me off so much man. We got older, slower and less productive for absolutely no reason. Like Skinner was bought out by freaking BUFFALO because he couldn't hack it there. Remember, they have plenty of cap space and would love a good mentor for their young guys, but even they decided he wasn't it. Henrique was demolished at 5v5 as 3C last playoffs. Janmark and Brown were 4th liners last year who were elevated to 3rd line this year. Nuge has fallen off a cliff. What are we spending money on exactly? Mcdrai to carry us like the the pre 2022 Oilers? Even in 2022 a healthy Kane was much more productive than our 4th most productive fwd right now.

Skinner was bought out because he was making significantly more than he should have. If he was making three mill he might still be there.

 

[McDoused]

Tell you what. There's an easy way to determine this. Go ask Dustin Schwartz if he thinks acquiring John Gibson is a good idea. If he says yes, then you know it's a bad idea.

That's giving him too much credit. I think he just says "yes" to anyone regardless.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

If he can bring that game at $1.95M on the cap, you're laughing if you're the Oilers. It's a easy fit and I think Utatotes would be willing to do that deal, because they can focus on re-upping Vejmelka and they have Staubber in there as well who's coming along it seems.

He was in Vezina form that year

 

[CanadasTeam99]

I honestly don't think they're going to bring in another goalie. I personally would trade Skinner for Gibson at 50% (Skinner makes 2.6 and Gibson would be 3.2, so not a huge difference). But I don't think a goalie is in the cards by TDL day.



I get it. But I think Gibson is on a whole different talent level than Skinner. Frankly, I think a healthy Gibson on his game his still a top-10 goaltender. That's just me. But I would also note that Skinner is a sub 900 goalie on one of the best defensive teams in the league. And Gibson is on maybe the worst defensive teams in the last decade. That matters.

Anyways, if Gibson ever gets traded, and he blows the doors of his next team, remember me as one of the guys who said, "I told you so."

It does matter. You can't just list a guys stats when the teams are polar opposites. ANA allows liek the most chances per game. It's a hilarious take.

This is the only thing that matters. Do people think Gibson here playing some more games than Pickard (against tougher teams) would have given us more wins?

Do people think Gibson here over SKinner would have given us more wins?

That is up to our subpar scouts. How does he move? How many High Danger chances does he save? You have to watch all of the video on him.

I think he would steal Skinners job, but they would almost equally split the games

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

He was in Vezina form that year

It's why I'm high on bringing him in, I think he could play really well behind a defense like this.

 

[McShogun99]

Skinner was bought out because he was making significantly more than he should have. If he was making three mill he might still be there.

He's not even worth 3 million right now. He looks like he's completely mailed it in. I'm really hoping that it's just an adjustment period and he comes up huge for us in the playoffs.

 

[soothsayer]

It does matter. You can't just list a guys stats when the teams are polar opposites. ANA allows liek the most chances per game. It's a hilarious take.

This is the only thing that matters. Do people think Gibson here playing some more games than Pickard (against tougher teams) would have given us more wins?

Do people think Gibson here over SKinner would have given us more wins?

That is up to our subpar scouts. How does he move? How many High Danger chances does he save? You have to watch all of the video on him.

I think he would steal Skinners job, but they would almost equally split the games

I've always been a big fan of Gibson, so I might be a bit overly bullish on him. I do think he would be a no-doubter starting goalie on the Oilers, and I do think the Oilers would have more success with him in net. I wouldn't mind Gibson at 50% sharing the crease with Skinner, but then you're adding an extra 2.2M (Pickard is 1M), and I also would be worried about how well Skinner would do jumping in after Gibson goes on a run.

All this said, I gotta reiterate that I don't think they're looking to upgrade in goal. I really don't think so.

 

[frag2]

Skinner was bought out because he was making significantly more than he should have. If he was making three mill he might still be there.

He is now so lets trade him back to Buffalo for a pick, easy peasy

 

[Shanahanigans]

I still don't understand why they didn't pony up for Holloway. Oilers could've easily matched that then sat him down and asked about what he wants in a role for the team. He's doing very well on the Blues.

On pace for 28 goals and 65 points as a 23 year old, and get this, +14 in half a season on a team who isn’t in a playoff spot. Unbelievable young player that we just….let walk.

 

[thadd]

I hear more people complaining that we need a better goalie these days.

Who could we realistically trade for that would be able to force Skinner out of playing any games in the playoffs?

 

[CanadasTeam99]

On pace for 28 goals and 65 points as a 23 year old, and get this, +14 in half a season on a team who isn’t in a playoff spot. Unbelievable young player that we just….let walk.

This was a massive fail, but what can we do now.....Holloway can actually drive play. Nobody really does it besides 97/29

 

[guymez]

The bottom 6 pisses me off so much man. We got older, slower and less productive for absolutely no reason. Like Skinner was bought out by freaking BUFFALO because he couldn't hack it there. Remember, they have plenty of cap space and would love a good mentor for their young guys, but even they decided he wasn't it. Henrique was demolished at 5v5 as 3C last playoffs. Janmark and Brown were 4th liners last year who were elevated to 3rd line this year. Nuge has fallen off a cliff. What are we spending money on exactly? Mcdrai to carry us like the the pre 2022 Oilers? Even in 2022 a healthy Kane was much more productive than our 4th most productive fwd right now.

The Oilers ended up giving Holloways money to these older slower players...ie Skinner.
Thats what grinds me.

 

[Took a pill in Sbisa]

isn't there a separate thread to keep bitching about Holloway?

When are we allowed to move on?

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

isn't there a separate thread to keep bitching about Holloway?

When are we allowed to move on?

It is what it is, but these are Oilers fans, they only got over Parise like a couple years ago lol