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CupofOil said:
Fabbro is a young ascending player, Klingberg is a much older declining player. I wouldn't count on this guy as anything more than a 3rd pair/2nd PP specialist and even more odd that they'd be pursuing Klingberg because he's pretty much a free asset and not offer a very low pick for the Preds who were waiving Fabbro anyway. I know there was salary considerations but $2.5m was very manageable. Oh well

Anyway, I don't like the idea of a top 4 experiment for Klingberg because there's very little upside to it with it being highly likely that he's well past done as a top 4 Dman and while the Oilers are pretty much locked in to a playoff spot they're in a dogfight for the division and possible Presidents Trophy so I don't think experimenting with a top 4 D with a guy who is a real longshot is the best of ideas.

If he's signed as depth or as a rotation guy then I'm fine with it but if this is a plug and play with Nurse I really don't like it.
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I wonder if Klingberg might be more of a research tool. Seems like they might still be doing some testing on what kind of partner they believe will be best type to fit with Nurse. They called Brown up and have given him some time with Nurse to see how he responds with a stay at home type, now maybe they go out and make a no risk signing to bring in an adept right handed puck mover to see how that type of player impacts Nurses game.

So it could just be them trying to get more data for making a decision on who they want to target for a defensive upgrade.
 
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I kind of really want to get the biggest fish out there up front. Someone who tilts the ice. Where on nights that we load up a top line, this player leads a terrifying 2nd line right after. Will there even be a player like that available?
 
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SupremeTeam16 said:
I wonder if Klingberg might be more of a research tool. Seems like they might still be doing some testing on what kind of partner they believe will be best type to fit with Nurse. They called Brown up and have given him some time with Nurse to see how he responds with a stay at home type, now maybe they go out and make a no risk signing to bring in an adept right handed puck mover to see how that type of player impacts Nurses game.

So it could just be them trying to get more data for making a decision on who they want to target for a defensive upgrade.
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Could be. I honestly don’t know what kind of partner he needs.

I think he has to be able to move the puck well and has to have strong defensive instincts. Probably needs a strong sense of composure. While that sounds pretty simple and straightforward. Thats a difficult player to acquire. Especially on the right side.
 
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Klingberg at under a mil is a no brainer. He isn't going to be our "big" trade deadline Dman acquisition. He didn't even exist a week ago and now we have the opportunity to get him, the upside far outweighs the negative (if any).

This is his last kick of the can in the league, he will be highly motivated....which should never be underestimated.
 
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CupofOil said:
Fabbro is a young ascending player, Klingberg is a much older declining player. I wouldn't count on this guy as anything more than a 3rd pair/2nd PP specialist and even more odd that they'd be pursuing Klingberg because he's pretty much a free asset and not offer a very low pick for the Preds who were waiving Fabbro anyway. I know there was salary considerations but $2.5m was very manageable. Oh well

Anyway, I don't like the idea of a top 4 experiment for Klingberg because there's very little upside to it with it being highly likely that he's well past done as a top 4 Dman and while the Oilers are pretty much locked in to a playoff spot they're in a dogfight for the division and possible Presidents Trophy so I don't think experimenting with a top 4 D with a guy who is a real longshot is the best of ideas.

If he's signed as depth or as a rotation guy then I'm fine with it but if this is a plug and play with Nurse I really don't like it.
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Fabbro and Klingberg have the most important things in common though, as a potential option for our top 4 RD. And sure Fabbro has a brighter future and Klingberg is only a short term option, but I'm looking at this up coming playoffs first and foremost. Also, of course we missed the boat on Fabbro, while Klingberg is right here for the taking, and most assume that it would be for a low enough dollar so that we can still make a run at someone better at the deadline

I agree with you on what we should expect from Klingberg, but no one really knows what he'll be like. He really could be a noticeable upgrade on Stecher.
 
Jimmi McJenkins said:
I'm glad Philp is up, I'm still really hoping for a look for Savoie and Rodrigue before Feb 12th.
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Agree about Savoie if their is an injury. Otherwise we already have too many guys up (Jeff Skinner wasting away on the bench). Rodrigues, I honestly don't see it. After Pickards performance and Skinner getting a shutout, I think what we have currently is better.
 
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McDoused said:
Agree about Savoie if their is an injury. Otherwise we already have too many guys up (Jeff Skinner wasting away on the bench). Rodrigues, I honestly don't see it. After Pickards performance and Skinner getting a shutout, I think what we have currently is better.
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Fair, but honestly if one of those 2 go down, you need to know if he can handle himself and this window until Feb 12th is a good time to "try" guys imo.

I also agree about Skinner not getting in, but Savoie is playing so well he needs a look, because injuries or no, they may need him in the playoffs to change the look.
 
Jimmi McJenkins said:
Yeah, that is a concern, but I would be great just to see if, because if he's not an NHL option into next year, move on imo.
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For sure. You've gotta give the kiddos a chance eventually, otherwise what's the point of drafting and developing? I don't know how many goalies would put up respectable numbers like his and not have an NHL game yet. I think his play has been not so good lately though.
 
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jukon said:
For sure. You've gotta give the kiddos a chance eventually, otherwise what's the point of drafting and developing? I don't know how many goalies would put up respectable numbers like his and not have an NHL game yet. I think his play has been not so good lately though.
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That's tough and I've heard that, but these things ebb and flow in the minors. I think it's been a bit of bad luck for him too, no one has been nicked up, so he hasn't gotten those short recalls.

I don't know, that countdown to the 4 nations break, I know everything really matters, but it's a good chance to see where the kids are before the deadline.
 
Which poster yesterday was lamenting the Oilers Pro scouting, while holding up Colorados as an example.

I know it can’t be the Colorado Pro scouting staff who would of scouted Casey Mittlestadt and liked him so much that Colorado traded a young top 4 defender for him, then proceeded to give him 6M a year so they can play him at 4C

Lol that’s definitely who we should be emulating.
 
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McAsuno said:
To be fair, he's just relaying what the insiders are saying. I don't have the time to always listen to the radio, so I appreciate when @McTonyBrar mentions what they say.
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I do too, I was just joking that we are now posting tweets from users here at HFboards. We have become our own source…haha

FlameChampion said:
Could be. I honestly don’t know what kind of partner he needs.

I think he has to be able to move the puck well and has to have strong defensive instincts. Probably needs a strong sense of composure. While that sounds pretty simple and straightforward. Thats a difficult player to acquire. Especially on the right side.
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He has had the most success with partners who can outlet the puck- because he is terrible at it. The biggest part of that, though, is the faster you can outlet the puck- the less in-zone defence he has to play (where he can get into trouble)
 
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