Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Where's The Beef?

[VeteranPresence]

That 9M is only for this year.

A $97M cap?

 

[foshizzle]

The bolded is not actually the way it works. If the Oilers put a player on LTIR during the season the cap that they are at at that point becomes the new ceiling. So it they were at $87M when they put Kane on LTIR that would be their new ceiling. TO accrue space they would have to be under $87M.

At the beginning of the this season the Oilers manipulated their cap so that they were almost exactly at the ceiling. Then they put Kane on LTIR setting their new ceiling at just a hair below the $88.5M number. Then the sent down players so that they were under this new ceiling and hence were accruing space.

We are saying the same thing. I just used hypothetical numbers vs the exact numbers.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

I agree with Bruce

 

[Jarvi]

I agree with Bruce

Agreed.

I don't think he is the solution to the D, but it will give us an idea of what our team would look like if we target one of the more offensive, puckmoving LHD rather than a true RHD to partner up with Darnell. Gotta think he is a step or two above Dermott and Brown as well, maybe even Stech.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Smith seems like a guy that needs to get himself established on a weaker team. We don't have time for projects like him IMO. We could use him in the AHL I'm sure but we'd likely have to trade for him once he clears waivers if that's the plan.

 

[TheNumber4]

I never liked Ty Smith. Didn’t like him as a prospect, didn’t like him when he was offered up as a trade target years later. Didn’t think his offence would translate to the NHL. Too reliant on a wrister from the blue line as a prospect. Thought his offensive skills were overrated. And always worried about his size without the necessary skill to overcome it.

That said I can never argue with the cost of FREE. And I always like the home town storyline possibly unlocking something in him. It’s just too bad he’s not a RHD, we’d have a room to take a Flyer on that side. We’re full up on the left side though, doesn’t seem like a fit.

 

[Jarvi]

I never liked Ty Smith. Didn’t like him as a prospect, didn’t like him when he was offered up as a trade target years later. Didn’t think his offence would translate to the NHL. Too reliant on a wrister from the blue line as a prospect. Thought his offensive skills were overrated. And always worried about his size without the necessary skill to overcome it.

That said I can never argue with the cost of FREE. And I always like the home town storyline possibly unlocking something in him. It’s just too bad he’s not a RHD, we’d have a room to take a Flyer on that side. We’re full up on the left side though, doesn’t seem like a fit.

There is smoke out there that we are looking at a #5LHD to platoon with Kulak between anchoring the bottom pair and beside Nurse. I don't love the idea, especially the having Kulak as a #4 part, but this could be a cheap way to test run that idea, trading for a #5 puckmoving LHD rather than a #4 RHD, before the playoffs and see if it's worth investing significant assets into.

Fully healthy, yeah we are stacked at LHD on the main roster. But there is no depth there, 1 injury and we're moving a RH guy to their offside or calling up our only AHL LHD in Cam Dineen. Not ideal. Not that he was anything special, but its why losing Dermott kinda sucked.

 

[TheNumber4]

There is smoke out there that we are looking at a #5LHD to platoon with Kulak between anchoring the bottom pair and beside Nurse. I don't love the idea, especially the having Kulak as a #4 part, but this could be a cheap way to test run that idea, trading for a #5 puckmoving LHD rather than a #4 RHD, before the playoffs and see if it's worth investing significant assets into.

Fully healthy, yeah we are stacked at LHD on the main roster. But there is no depth there, 1 injury and we're moving a RH guy to their offside or calling up our only AHL LHD in Cam Dineen. Not ideal. Not that he was anything special, but it’s why losing Dermott kinda sucked.

Isn’t the theory more-so to test a stay at home 3rd pair LHD vet that could keep one of either Emberson/Stecher afloat in the 3rd pair role. Then see if Nurse-Kulak continues to be a thing?

If Ty Smith just isn’t a viable NHLer at this point I don’t know how much we learn from this experiment. Let’s say he comes in and fails in that role, does it really tell us if say Pettersson or Murphy would fail in that role? I guess we would get a good look at Nurse-Kulak some more though, but we could do that right now.

That said LHD depth as you’ve mentioned isn’t great. So if we can get him through waivers and into the AHL as a depth option maybe the flyer makes sense. I think Ty Smith is a guy who’s going to need to redefine himself, like how Kris Russel was an offensive D-man in juniors and needed to completely change his game to something else in the NHL. That kind of makeover will need time in the AHL. At the cost of free and for a hometown kid, i wouldn’t be opposed to making that bet.