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[Fourier]

Since you’re the local CBA expert got a question regarding the claim order. Would I be right in assuming the order is as of the time that waivers goes through, ie noon today? Yesterdays results changed the order quite a bit and if I’m not mistaken when Fabbro was put on waivers the Oilers had a worse Points % than Columbus so mainly just curious if they passed on him or didn’t have the chance to.

I have to confess that I am not 100% sure about this but it would really surprise me if it was not at the time of the waiver going through.

 

[JeffSkinner53]

Could've traded a pick for Fabbro

 

[Oilhawks]

Could've traded a pick for Fabbro

Only if Nashville was willing to retain. My guess would be that wasn’t an option

 

[Scrapin Ice]

Back to the drawing board. We still need complementary guy for Nurse. Sooner rather than later.
We should at the very least upgrade our goalies in Bakersfield as well. And maybe plan a bit for the future there as well.

 

[Soundwave]

I really do wonder who it is the Oilers think will be there at the trade deadline for them because Fabbro is a passable no.4.

 

[VeteranPresence]

I really do wonder who it is the Oilers think will be there at the trade deadline for them because Fabbro is a passable no.4.

Murphy or Provorov I guess, though both carry more risk (along with a higher price tag to acquire plus cap hit). I’m afraid we may have just smartest guy in the roomed ourselves again by ignoring a very obvious solution.

 

[Oilhawks]

Murphy or Provorov I guess, though both carry more risk (along with a higher price tag to acquire plus cap hit). I’m afraid we may have just smartest guy in the roomed ourselves again by ignoring a very obvious solution.

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[jukon]

I think it’s based on points %, so they were lower.

Yeah. Based on points % when the player was waived. Not by the end of the day?
If the player was waived on Saturday at 12MT, Oilers were below .500 and Columbus was .500. After Saturday games were played, Columbus was below .500 and Oilers were at .500. It wouldn't have even been up to a tie-breaker.

 

[MessierII]

Why does anyone even want fabbro again? I feel like we went through this discussion in the summer already.

 

[McDNicks17]

Yeah. Based on points % when the player was waived. Not by the end of the day?
If the player was waived on Saturday at 12MT, Oilers were below .500 and Columbus was .500. After Saturday games were played, Columbus was below .500 and Oilers were at .500. It wouldn't have even been up to a tie-breaker.

I'd assume it's based on when the claims are sorted out, so 12 EST or whatever it was today, but I'm not sure.

 

[jukon]

I'd assume it's based on when the claims are sorted out, so 12 EST or whatever it was today, but I'm not sure.

Then teams could lose on purpose to manipulate waiver priority. Not that teams would actually care that much, but it wouldn't make sense.

"Waiver priority is based on the team’s standings at the time of the waiver request, not at the time of the claim."

 

[GOilers88]

Murphy or Provorov I guess, though both carry more risk (along with a higher price tag to acquire plus cap hit). I’m afraid we may have just smartest guy in the roomed ourselves again by ignoring a very obvious solution.

They didn't ignore anything. He got claimed.

 

[Scrapin Ice]

GET UP HORSE! GET UP!

You weren't that good anyways but GET UP!

 

[jukon]

I'm waiting for a report that Fabbro ends up an Oiler because the NHL interpreted their own rules incorrectly regarding waiver priority and we have to pay Columbus a third round pick as a penalty.

 

[guymez]

I'm concerned if there is actually a hangover. The team that actually won the cup, and had gone to the finals the year before that as well has no issue getting their asses in gear to start the season.

I feel like any hangover for the Oilers is just another excuse for another flat start in a string of flat starts every year.

That said, I believe like I do every year that things will work themselves out as the season plays on.

I dont think the hangover has as much to do with the workload. I am thinking that it has more to do with the sheer disappointment of playing extremely high intenisty hockey for 3 months and failing.

So I agree with you that this will work itself out...hopefully that happens sooner rather than later.

Not to nitpick but Savoie is actually taller and has a good 20lbs on Yamamoto. It's always frustrating when fans compare guys to ex-Oilers because they don't watch other teams. Savoie doesn't play the same game as Yamamoto. He's a lot more skilled with the puck, makes plays and thinks the game differently.

I will try and locate the sources i looked at but they clearly showed their height and weight to be exaclty the same.
Of course these things can change for a young man Savoies age so its poosible your info is more current.
I am open to any sources you have that difinitively state that Savoi is taller and heavier than Yamamoto.

 

[Took a pill in Sbisa]

I dont think the hangover has as much to do with the workload. I am thinking that it has more to do with the sheer disappointment of playing extremely high intenisty hockey for 3 months and failing.

So I agree with you that this will work itself out...hopefully that happens sooner rather than later.


I will try and locate the sources i looked at but they clearly shpowed his height and weight to be exaclty the same.
Of course these things can change for a young man Savoies age so its poosible your info is more current.
I am open to any sources you have that difinitively state that Savoi is taller and heavier than Yamamoto.

Florida started last season 10-5 with important players injured for the start of the season after losing to Vegas in Cup Finals

 

[guymez]

Savoie is a burner. However that won't help that much if he plays the kind of way he did in junior. Either he needs to get MUCH stronger or change his game. He can't continue to take part at that kind of level at the professional level without becoming an injury machine--thats why he is being used in the offensive zone as a center for now.
I could see him get a small cup later this year but maybe he would be best served playing this year and most of next in Bakersfield until some of his man strength comes onto him. I forsee an eventual move to RW. With his upside hope they develop him right before he gets to the show.

Appreciate the input. Sounds like you have seen him play more than I have.
Not sure what you mean by "a small cup" though.

Florida started last season 10-5 with important players injured for the start of the season after losing to Vegas in Cup Finals

Might be just an Oilers thing then. Something this particular group of core players struggle with.
This team certainly doesnt look right to me. Even when they are playing well I get the sense that the wheels could fall off at any moment.

 

[Took a pill in Sbisa]

Appreciate the input. Sounds like you have seen him play more than I have.
Not sure what you mean by "a small cup" though.


Might be just an Oilers thing then. Something this particular group of core players struggle with.
This team certainly doesnt look right to me. Even when they are playing well I get the sense that the wheels could fall off at any moment.

This isn't exclusive to coming off last season's playoff run. This team has never been able to come out strong from the gate and maintain a consistent winning pattern since this organization has gotten out of the basement.

 

[Mr Positive]

This isn't exclusive to coming off last season's playoff run. This team has never been able to come out strong from the gate and maintain a consistent winning pattern since this organization has gotten out of the basement.

I hope this year is just that pattern. If it is, then I'm actually fine with it

 

[Took a pill in Sbisa]

I hope this year is just that pattern. If it is, then I'm actually fine with it

I'd much rather get hot towards the end of the year and bring the momentum into playoffs again as well. I just don't want to dig too deep a hole at the start of the year that costs us the division/conference title again.

 

[Mr Positive]

I'd much rather get hot towards the end of the year and bring the momentum into playoffs again as well. I just don't want to dig too deep a hole at the start of the year that costs us the division/conference title again.

I'm there too, and I think getting a conference win or president's trophy would set us better for the playoffs.

It might be that the season is too much of a marathon and that to be hot in the late season and playoffs you can't be consistent

Imo it maybe shows that the team is fundamentally flawed though. Maybe the problem is that the top players have to over exert themselves in order for us to win a lot.

Imo the issue is just the missing 2nd pair RD. Unfortunately it might also be true that we need a goalie too. Then maybe we can be a consistent winner

 

[guymez]

This isn't exclusive to coming off last season's playoff run. This team has never been able to come out strong from the gate and maintain a consistent winning pattern since this organization has gotten out of the basement.

Fair point.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

I dont think the hangover has as much to do with the workload. I am thinking that it has more to do with the sheer disappointment of playing extremely high intenisty hockey for 3 months and failing.

So I agree with you that this will work itself out...hopefully that happens sooner rather than later.


I will try and locate the sources i looked at but they clearly showed their height and weight to be exaclty the same.
Of course these things can change for a young man Savoies age so its poosible your info is more current.
I am open to any sources you have that difinitively state that Savoi is taller and heavier than Yamamoto.

Yamamoto being listed at 179 on the NHL website is laughable.

 

[Scrapin Ice]

What an interesting game today between the sharks and the devils.
Ceci plays top minutes +1. MacBlack with the 44 stop shutout.
Kovacevic plays 3rd most minutes for his side including top PK minutes and d zone starts, 3 shots and wasn't on ice for the single goal against. He is better than the revolving 3 and Kulak.
Likely available for a slight overpay (they need to get Nemec NhL minutes). Skates pretty well passes up out of the zone good (can get the puck to Nursery in the ozone. More importantly can clean up Nurse's poop in the Dzone and can handle the necessary punching in the playoffs when we need Brain Fart on the ice. He makes 765k. Much better than a Fabbro.

We would still have all our cap space at the deadline.

 

[guymez]

Yamamoto being listed at 179 on the NHL website is laughable.

So which site is the authority if not the NHL?