Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Where's the Beef?

[belair]

Brannstrom up with Canucks today. $900k cap hit. I think we missed out not grabbing him on waivers and instead signing Dermott.

 

[McDNicks17]

Brannstrom up with Canucks today. $900k cap hit. I think we missed out not grabbing him on waivers and instead signing Dermott.

I don't know. Making the Canucks D isn't the highest bar right now haha.

 

[belair]

I don't know. Making the Canucks D isn't the highest bar right now haha.

He'd probably be one of our better puckmovers.

 

[Cloned]

He'd probably be one of our better puckmovers.

I don’t think our defense needs another slowish smallish defender.

 

[belair]

I don’t think our defense needs another slowish smallish defender.

Average speed. Plays both sides. Which other D on the roster is small other than part time Stetcher?

The issue is that we chose to sign Dermott, who isn't really getting the job done. Nor has he ever really established himself at the NHL level.

Brannstrom was a missed opportunity.

 

[La Bamba]

I'm going to go with 6.75. He's not at the same level as Ullmark, Otter or Swayman.

Stu and his moustache can walk if he asks for 6.75

I'd rather pay 1M for wash up starters like LA than overpay Skinner for no reason by 4M

 

[TheNumber4]

I blame Oilers management much more than I blame Emberson.

I don't want to blame anyone at this point. It just it what it is.

 

[TheNumber4]

You're right not every player gets better with more experience, but he has already proven over a short sample size that he has the ability to be an effective NHL player, and should improve with more time to adjust to the new team and get more comfortable in the NHL

. He played very well for 30 games on a horrifically bad San Jose team, and has now played mediocre to bad on the Oilers for 3 games. Why are you so willing to discount the good 30 games and take the 3 bad ones as who he is as a player?

Seems your mind is made up on him, no matter what he does.

I didn't watch his 30 games with San Jose. Did you? Who's saying he was good there? I'll make my judgements based on what I'm seeing, so far he doesn't look good, but i'm willing to watch more.

 

[Cloned]

Average speed. Plays both sides. Which other D on the roster is small other than part time Stetcher?

The issue is that we chose to sign Dermott, who isn't really getting the job done. Nor has he ever really established himself at the NHL level.

Brannstrom was a missed opportunity.

I mean this basically describes Dermott lol.

 

[belair]

I mean this basically describes Dermott lol.

Dermott is four years removed from having any semblance of ability to handle an NHL workload. Erik Brannstrom earned a raise with his play at that level and essentially met the expectations of it.

Dermott just isn't an NHL defenseman.

 

[belair]

Stu and his moustache can walk if he asks for 6.75

I'd rather pay 1M for wash up starters like LA than overpay Skinner for no reason by 4M

Yeah. It'd be a mistake to overvalue his experience here. Hopefully they can come to the agreement that he's a ~$4m goalie and they can get an extension done.

I've seen it mentioned before, but I like the idea of targeting MacKenzie Blackwood. Athletic goalie with a great glovehand and still some room for growth. A tandem of he and Skinner would be nice to run with if you could lock them up for under $7m combined.

 

[nexttothemoon]

Arvidson played like 15 games and emberson 30. This is a bad take. Our offense is A plus.

Kane 24 in 77 games
Foegele 20 in 82 games
McLeod 12 in 81 games
Holloway 6 in 38 games
Gagner 5 in 28 games
Ceci 5 in 79 games
Carrick 2 in 16 games
Erne 1 in 24 games
Desharnais 1 in 78 games

Games played: 503
Goals: 76
Goals per game: 0.151


Podkolzin 0 goals last year in 19 games
Emberson 1 goal last year in 30 games
Dermott 2 goals last year in 50 games
Arvidsson 6 goals last year in 18 games
Skinner 24 goals last year in 74 games

Games played: 191 games
Goals: 33 goals
Goals per game: 0.173



Fair points... the goals per game from the groups are similar. Problem being that you also have to hope those new players can play close to 80 games as well as the pool of decent players has overall been reduced a LOT when the inevitable injuries hit.


I do think they'll have a harder time this year filling the net than they did last season... but we'll wait and see how their goals per game compares to last year. As I said in other posts... I may be overly pessimistic but as with everything we'll have to wait and see how the team performs once players start to develop chemistry with each other which takes some time.

 

[guymez]

I don't want to blame anyone at this point. It just it what it is.

Its a problem caused by Management.
They really need to resolve it sooner rather than later.

 

[TheNumber4]

Its a problem caused by Management.

I know but like alot of that was mismanagement from before Bowman that lead to our cap issues. Mostly Holland.

 

[guymez]

I know but like alot of that was mismanagement from before Bowman that lead to our cap issues. Mostly Holland.

Completely agree.
I put this at the feet of Holland and Jackson.

 

[Cloned]

Dermott is four years removed from having any semblance of ability to handle an NHL workload. Erik Brannstrom earned a raise with his play at that level and essentially met the expectations of it.

Dermott just isn't an NHL defenseman.

I’m not sure Brannstrom is either.

 

[belair]

I’m not sure Brannstrom is either.

Ottawa certainly got their money's worth.

 

[Cloned]

Ottawa certainly got their money's worth.

Did they?

 

[belair]

Did they?

They did. 20 points, +5, 2nd pair PK and one of their better puckmovers statistically.

 

[Cloned]

They did. 20 points, +5, 2nd pair PK and one of their better puckmovers statistically.

They also deemed him expendable and he’s had trouble finding a team since.

 

[belair]

They also deemed him expendable and he’s had trouble finding a team since.

His QO was $2m. We're less than a dozen games into the next season. There's not much of a 'since' to speak of.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

 

[Oilhawks]

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This one was finally a primary assist

Stud alert, even with the hilarious asterisk to that claim (he began his career here, derp!)

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Up front I'd like to see us upgrade on Podkolzin. The question is though, is it worth paying for an upgrade when he's likely just a placeholder until Kane eventually returns?

 

[Soundwave]

Up front I'd like to see us upgrade on Podkolzin. The question is though, is it worth paying for an upgrade when he's likely just a placeholder until Kane eventually returns?

Klim Kostin basically fits to a tee in that spot.