Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Where's the Beef?

[Soundwave]

I'd like to see


Skinner McDavid Hyman
Podkolzin Drai Arvidsson
RNH Henrique Brown
Janmark Ryan Perry

Ekholm Bouchard
Nurse Stetcher
Kulak Brown
Emberson

The one season Podkolzin had a fair amount of success he was played with other talented players. He can grind on the wall and retreive pucks and hit ... let him just focus on that and then more talented players in the top 6 can get him the puck. It adds more sandpaper to our top 6.

RNH Henrique Brown should be a very good 3rd line.

Josh Brown in brings another big body to our lineup who hits a lot (more than Desharnais). Lets not over react to a freaking pre-season when everyone else was playing like crap too. This guy has 300 NHL games experience and was a plus player on a bad Coyotes squad last year.

 

[Oilhawks]

They wouldn't have to waive anyone, it would just mean they wouldn't accrue as much space with him on the team

Ah, fair enough, I missed that. Thanks

 

[North]

Lolz that doesn't matter, they can claim as many people as they can fit


Lolz ok sure. So the avs front office is just largely not smart then by this logic


His fancies last year, according to cap site we all use now, were passable for a bottom-6 forward.

Jimmi you’re fighting the clouds. Have at it.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Stetcher is a +5 in 9 games with the Oilers playing primarily with like Nurse or Kulak.

Last night he fought a guy half a foot taller than him to stand up for our goalie.

What the f*** does this guy have to do to get a fair shot here? He's probably as good as Ceci is, maybe better in some respects.

He was trending pretty well until his ankle issue knocked him out and then he had a bit of a slow camp, but then again pretty much everyone did.

He's the best fit we've got for that 2RD spot and Nurse plays pretty well with him.

Ek-Bouch
Nurse-Stecher
Kulak-Emberson
Dermott

Let's run with that for awhile and let the pairings get used to each other a bit

 

[TheNumber4]

Don’t know how much patience can be left for Emberson at this point. His turnover last night killed our momentum late in the 2nd period, turned into 4 straight minutes of us looking like clowns (not all Embersons fault, but it snowballed from his play).

There’s only some ability there… but probably not enough reward for the risk of trotting him out there.

 

[Bring Back Bucky]

Don’t know how much patience can be left for Emberson at this point. His turnover last night killed our momentum late in the 2nd period, turned into 4 straight minutes of us looking like clowns (not all Embersons fault, but it snowballed from his play).

There’s only some ability there… but probably not enough reward for the risk of trotting him out there.

Jesus he’s 24 with 30 NHL games. He’s got size and can skate. I don’t think he’s ready to flush after a couple of games.

 

[TheNumber4]

Jesus he’s 24 with 30 NHL games. He’s got size and can skate. I don’t think he’s ready to flush after a couple of games.

Low experience doesn’t always mean he’s gonna get better. The odds are against him in general. Despite age and lack of experience, it’s more likely he is what he is.

But I guess we’ll see. Not like we have a choice in the matter, our RD is a revolving cast of unproven guys at this point.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Jesus he’s 24 with 30 NHL games. He’s got size and can skate. I don’t think he’s ready to flush after a couple of games.

he should be a #7 right now...or play big minutes in the minors

his own former AHL coach doesn't trust him, he only played 10:21 last night...I'd give Dermott a chance at #6 or yes even J. Brown

 

[Heavy Dee]

A guy to keep an eye on is Mackenzie Blackwood.

I have time for him around the deadline...

I predict Pickard won't finish the year with the big club.

Stetcher is a +5 in 9 games with the Oilers playing primarily with like Nurse or Kulak.

Last night he fought a guy half a foot taller than him to stand up for our goalie.

What the f*** does this guy have to do to get a fair shot here? He's probably as good as Ceci is, maybe better in some respects.

It defies common sense. The only thing I can think of is they don't like his size.

 

[McDNicks17]

he should be a #7 right now...or play big minutes in the minors

his own former AHL coach doesn't trust him, he only played 10:21 last night...I'd give Dermott a chance at #6 or yes even J. Brown

He played 10 minutes because over 1/3rd of that game was special teams.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

He played 10 minutes because over 1/3rd of that game was special teams.

Emberson? He should be able to play on special teams, ie the PK, so that's not the good news some want to think it might be. He just might not be an NHL defenseman, early returns to me look that way.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

He played 10 minutes because over 1/3rd of that game was special teams.

so he doesn't PK? why not?

 

[McDNicks17]

Emberson? He should be able to play on special teams, ie the PK, so that's not the good news some want to think it might be. He just might not be an NHL defenseman, early returns to me look that way.

so he doesn't PK? why not?

He did play on the PK, but the 1st unit played like 9 minutes of PK last night.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

He did play on the PK, but the 1st unit played like 9 minutes of PK last night.

? he played a little over 2 mins and you check that time I'll bet you it's all in the front half of the game. He barely played as the game progressed.

 

[North]

Some of you are coming off like you really don’t want Emberson to succeed. Yikes.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

He did play on the PK, but the 1st unit played like 9 minutes of PK last night.

playing almost 4 minutes less than the next lowest defender in less than ideal

 

[McDNicks17]

? he played a little over 2 mins and you check that time I'll bet you it's all in the front half of the game. He barely played as the game progressed.

He played the same amount of 5v5 shifts in all three periods.

Are you sure you guys know what you're upset about?

 

[nabob]

Some of you are coming off like you really don’t want Emberson to succeed. Yikes.

They’d rather be right about all their offseason whining than hope that he ends up as a productive player.

 

[Juxta Position]

Low experience doesn’t always mean he’s gonna get better. The odds are against him in general. Despite age and lack of experience, it’s more likely he is what he is.

But I guess we’ll see. Not like we have a choice in the matter, our RD is a revolving cast of unproven guys at this point.

That makes zero sense. Low experience means exactly that, low experience. the more reps he gets the more he learns the league.....you know, gains experience.

He has the tools to be a good defender and is still young enough to learn how to play in the NHL. It's almost like people don't realize that it can be tough to play against the best players in the world, and that some players don't figure it out in their first game in the league.

To state he already "is what he is" after 33 NHL games is incredibly narrowminded thinking.

 

[Took a pill in Sbisa]

Suddenly $2m doesn't seem like too much to me for Desharnais after watching our PK this year :S

 

[CycloneSweep]

Van fans say that Desharnais was always meant to be a project. Two million per for a project? That’s not smart.

A guy who will be 29 in May is a project?

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Lolz that doesn't matter, they can claim as many people as they can fit


Lolz ok sure. So the avs front office is just largely not smart then by this logic


His fancies last year, according to cap site we all use now, were passable for a bottom-6 forward.

If they claim multiple, wouldnt it put them over the 23 player maximum?

 

[North]

Suddenly $2m doesn't seem like too much to me for Desharnais after watching our PK this year :S

He’s being healthy scratched in Vancouver.

 

[Oilhawks]

He’s being healthy scratched in Vancouver.

They're learning that having a mobile partner in Kulak really helped him along. Oops

 

[Soundwave]

He’s being healthy scratched in Vancouver.

Desharnais -2 in 1 game and healthy scratched
Ceci -2

So far.

If you want these guys back so bad they'll probably be available for peanuts by Christmas at this rate, lol.

Give Troy Stetcher and yeah even Josh Brown and Emberson a chance here. It's not fair to judge them on a basis where the entire team was sleepwalking through most of 3 games.