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[bucks_oil]

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This was Dubnyk stats during his time in the decade of darkness. It was actually good aside from the early stinkers he lets in. Stuart Skinner with the Oilers playing perfect D shouldn't be compared to Dubnyk.

Schwartz sucks. But he's not entirely a fault when Skinner plays like poop

Dubnyk was solid except for the stinkers agree there.

Our team is playing far from perfect D. I agree we are generally playing a very tight game defensively, but the breakdowns are pretty stark when they do happen (example McD's neutral zone giveaway on the first GA last night created a high quality odd man rush).

Teams like ours can have the effect of punishing SPCT... meaning we have the lion's share of possession, but then inevitable mistakes happen... like they do to every team certainly, but on a high-possession team, the goalie didn't face 15 other perimeter shots to pad his stats. We tend to only give up the gaffers.

That’s not entirely true.

He sucked with the Preds.

He didn’t really start putting it together until he got to Minnesota.

Fair... apparently he had some stuff to work out on the personal front - at least according to the Preds coach or GM at the time (can't quite remember who).

 

[bucks_oil]

Schwartz never coached Dubnyk. Dubnyk was traded in Jan 2014, Schwartz was hired in Nov 2014,

Dubnyk was coached by Fredric Chabot, who was scapegoated(by fans and Mact) back then for similar reasons(the failure of the goaltenders). Amusing sidenote - once Dubnyk settled in Minny, he had the Wild hire Chabot so he could go back to working with him again.

Ok... well I stand corrected. Thanks for that.

Still, I think we can all agree that whatever Edmonton is doing in goal, it isn't quite enough. Whether that's off ice personnel or just on-ice, impossible to really know unless you were on the inside.

I do think in general, the position has been an afterthought all too often. Which is strange considering the old boys enjoyed Moog, Fuhr, Ranford, Cujo, even a few good years of Salo, Roloson.... and then it all fell off a cliff.

 

[Jarvi]

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Oh Jesus Christ- you say look at the quality of teammates Ceci was on the ice with and then totally ignore the QoC. On ice save % is a huge deal too.

I have no clue what your point is with Evander Kane.

Clearly you dont even understand what you posted and your logical conclusions aren’t very logical. Ceci’s xGar- which takes into account all the underlying metrics is 2%. Broberg’s xGA while on ice surpassed Nurse’s.

An excellent article here.

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I laid it out pretty clearly, if you can't understand then that's a you problem. Read slow, sound it out, you'll get it.

Broberg's expected goals against per 60 did not surpass Nurse's. Again I ask, where are you seeing that stat, because money puck says differently. I didn't ignore QoC, it was part of my argument lmao.


I bring up Kane because he had better expected goals against numbers than many, despite playing pretty poorly with his injury etc. It was just pointing out the silliness of basing your entire argument on advanced stats, rather than taking reality into account.

Also I like how your article directly contradicts what you said earlier. It clearly states that Nurse only had somewhat positive results with Broberg, no one else, and that Broberg and Ceci had positive results together as well, better than Nurse-Broberg.

 

[bobbythebrain]

Podkolzin too, but he's not done well at all.

Ahem ahem

 

[foshizzle]

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I laid it out pretty clearly, if you can't understand then that's a you problem. Read slow, sound it out, you'll get it.

Broberg's expected goals against per 60 did not surpass Nurse's. Again I ask, where are you seeing that stat, because money puck says differently. I didn't ignore QoC, it was part of my argument lmao.


I bring up Kane because he had better expected goals against numbers than many, despite playing pretty poorly with his injury etc. It was just pointing out the silliness of basing your entire argument on advanced stats, rather than taking reality into account.

Also I like how your article directly contradicts what you said earlier. It clearly states that Nurse only had somewhat positive results with Broberg, no one else, and that Broberg and Ceci had positive results together as well, better than Nurse-Broberg.

I read it slowly, sounded it out- pretended I was 5 (your age I presume) and your conclusions still made no sense. I’ll break it down for you-

1) you used an expected goals/60. Broberg’s sample size it ridiculously small. You cherry picked a number

2) I guess you didn’t read the article. Showed Broberg didn’t play as awesome as you thought.

3) The article also didn’t say Ceci played well. It was an article on how Broberg performed on his left and right side. I suggest you read slow, sound out the words, you’ll get it.

I’ll go back to the bottom line. Ceci is a bad defenceman- no matter what you say. Broberg didn’t play as well you think- no matter what you say. You said you watch the games with your eyes- maybe get your eyes checked.

Gonna be funny when that Flames hot streak to start the season results in them drafting 10-14 instead of 1-5.

What’s funnier is that now they are talking about trading for a top 6 centre for the playoffs. I live in Calgary. The Flames will forever be locked in mediocrity

 

[Jumptheshark]

I find her obnoxious although I only saw a few of her posts.

She is from Texas(I think) and shoot from the hip

 

[Captain Controversy]

I assume Arvidson will be resting until playoffs.
Oilers should try to acquire kostin so we have 3 bangers.
Kane, podz and kostin.

 

[Jarvi]

I read it slowly, sounded it out- pretended I was 5 (your age I presume) and your conclusions still made no sense. I’ll break it down for you-

1) you used an expected goals/60. Broberg’s sample size it ridiculously small. You cherry picked a number

2) I guess you didn’t read the article. Showed Broberg didn’t play as awesome as you thought.

3) The article also didn’t say Ceci played well. It was an article on how Broberg performed on his left and right side. I suggest you read slow, sound out the words, you’ll get it.

I’ll go back to the bottom line. Ceci is a bad defenceman- no matter what you say. Broberg didn’t play as well you think- no matter what you say. You said you watch the games with your eyes- maybe get your eyes checked.


What’s funnier is that now they are talking about trading for a top 6 centre for the playoffs. I live in Calgary. The Flames will forever be locked in mediocrity

Man, what the f*** are you talking about. You brought up xGA... I went to check the numbers, because I didn't believe you that Nurse was better than Broberg in that regard, and it turns out he wasn't.

Yeah, I read the article. I brought up two notes it made, that back up my points. And I'm not saying Broberg was great, I'm saying he was able to help elevate what was possibly our worst Dman during the playoff run. Also that Ceci in a lesser role, could be of value had we been in on Jiricek as we know he shows up in big games and that he can PK adequately.

Like you are creating a strawman here, my point isn't that either of Broberg or Ceci are elite. I don't know how you got that.

 

[foshizzle]

Man, what the f*** are you talking about. You brought up xGA... I went to check the numbers, because I didn't believe you that Nurse was better than Broberg in that regard, and it turns out he wasn't.

Yeah, I read the article. I brought up two notes it made, that back up my points. And I'm not saying Broberg was great, I'm saying he was able to help elevate what was possibly our worst Dman during the playoff run. Also that Ceci in a lesser role, could be of value had we been in on Jiricek as we know he shows up in big games and that he can PK adequately.

Like you are creating a strawman here, my point isn't that either of Broberg or Ceci are elite. I don't know how you got that.

I said xGA- you went to xGA/60. Different stats.

Dude, you are the one creating the strawman. Go back to my original reply to your comment. Ceci bad. You seem to think he isn’t and you would welcome him back. I’ll go back to my original point. Ceci bad. Broberg didn’t elevate Nurse.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

I assume Arvidson will be resting until playoffs.
Oilers should try to acquire kostin so we have 3 bangers.
Kane, podz and kostin.

Adding Kostin would also hopefully make Beryozkin's transition here easier too (If we sign him).