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[iCanada]

Anyone know any realtors that might have insight on Jiricek coming here?

I hear Taylor Hall is selling his house here in Edmonton...

 

[Soundwave]

Askarov killing it.

HFOilers eying Blackwood

 

[Fourier]

Stats like this like do lack some context though. The Oilers might be not allowing a lot of high danger shots, but they are definitely leading the league in colossal breakdown freebie goals.

They are in a different class than the rest of the league in "what the hell just happened" and Bouchard, who plays the most minutes on D, is elite class in head scratching decisions

Some of these breakdowns don't even count as high danger chances but they are the most dangerous chances because it's unexpected.

Last night the Jets in the first half hung Hellybuyck out to dry on multiple occasions. He made every stop. I am not sure I buy the argument that the Oilers make so many more egregious errors than other teams justifying the save numbers. At some point the goalies job is to stop those shots. Plus as a I have shown before its not just 5 alarm goals against for Skinner. He is being beaten all over the offensive zone.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

Nvm

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

He's absolute upgrade on Pickard and is very likely upgrade on Skinner.

I think you could move Skinner out East, honestly, because there are competitive teams that could use skill and he's played out their his entire career.

It's absolutely a risk, but this isn't some $6M maybe, it's a guy with a long track record, the issue is he was beaten down by a team that a complete and utter disaster.

Also, Anaheim would absolutely have to eat 50%.

My only worry is Gibson is he is injury prone. Assuming we ship Skinner out, we're playing with fire.

The good news is even at 50 percent retained Gibson shouldn't be that expensive. I think the ducks want "to do right by the player"

 

[Scrapin Ice]

One of the big problems here is that our pro scouts have most likely been detailed to do a detailed analysis of Jiricek but how do you put any faith in what they come back with? This is not something either Jackson or Bowman can do for themselves either.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

My only worry is Gibson is he is injury prone. Assuming we ship Skinner out, we're playing with fire.

The good news is even at 50 percent retained Gibson shouldn't be that expensive. I think the ducks want "to do right by the player"

He is, but he's healthy now and has still played more than Blackwood over the last several years.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

Gibson, Binnington or Blackwood would all be upgrades on the current situation. If management doesn't want to "give up" on Skinner, fine. Trade or waive Pickard.

As for Jiricek, I don't see him as being the answer here, but if we can get him for a reasonable cost, sure go for it.

If we don't move Skinner it gets hard cap wise and we limit our ability to get a defencemen

 

[NotAVacuumSalesman]

Jiříček doesn’t fit the timeline here. He’s not the piece for a team that’s in win now mode.

I’m getting conflicting reports on the return for CBJ. TSN reporting a trade for another high selected prospect (McGroarty for Yager) or a hockey trade for a young forward who can play now (a la Drysdale for Gauthier).

I do like Jiříček, scouts had him comps stylistically to Pietrangelo or McAvoy from his draft report. The potential is huge, scouts were clamouring at his incredible upside. Played men’s top league Czech Extraliga as a 17 year old. He won Extraliga ROTY in 20-21.

He’ll take time to develop like any other big defencemen. I don’t think the Oilers can afford him the development time he needs. He’s only 20.

@Czechboy what’s your opinion?

 

[FlameChampion]

Jiříček doesn’t fit the timeline here. He’s not the piece for a team that’s in win now mode.

I’m getting conflicting reports on the return for CBJ. TSN reporting a trade for another high selected prospect (McGroarty for Yager) or a hockey trade for a young forward who can play now (a la Drysdale for Gauthier).

I do like Jiříček, scouts had him comps stylistically to Pietrangelo or McAvoy from his draft report. The potential is huge, scouts were clamouring at his incredible upside. Played men’s top league Czech Extraliga as a 17 year old. He won Extraliga ROTY in 20-21.

He’ll take time to develop like any other big defencemen. I don’t think the Oilers can afford him the development time he needs. He’s only 20.

@Czechboy what’s your opinion?

Well if he was traded for Savoie or O’Reilly or Akey, they don’t really fit our timeline either.

The good thing with Jirichek is that he is still on an ELC so he’s much easier to fit in cap wise.

Trading for him to expect him to be a RD2 next to Nurse probably isn’t wise.

The team could also make other moves at the trade deadline with the picks they have to obtain a stop gap in the middle of the defense.

I don’t watch Jirichek enough to know what his game is post draft. Young players don’t seem to fit here in well or get much leash so I don’t know if its worth trading for him.

 

[belair]

Jiricek seems risky. His Edge numbers are basically the same as Josh Brown's as far as speed and speed bursts go.

Betting on defensemen that are horrible skaters isn't usually the smartest move.

What Jiricek has between his ears is lightyears ahead of what Josh Brown does.

 

[belair]

While I got so excited about Jiricek my brain stopped functioning someone here kicked in the voice of reason. Yeah if they will take an Akey and a wanner go ahead--dont think they will. But i think we should keep Savoie and O'Really. We have places already lined up for these guys.

You move Savoie in a deal if it means you get Jiricek. What Savoie does in his ELC isn't irreplaceable. He's a secondary winger that's going to get some level of production boost from playing with elites. We've seen how the payscale works in the past.