Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | The Oilers Biggest Roster Need Is?

Oilers Biggest Roster Need?

  • 2nd Pairing RD

    Votes: 44 45.4%
  • Starting Goalie

    Votes: 50 51.5%
  • Top 6 LW (RNH, Podkolzin and Jeff Skinner Aren't Getting it Done)

    Votes: 1 1.0%
  • Top 6 RW (Arvidsson and Hyman Aren't Getting it Done)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 3C

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Physical Bottom 6 Wingers

    Votes: 1 1.0%
  • Other (Post Your Opinion)

    Votes: 1 1.0%

  • Total voters
    97

Jumptheshark

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Oct 12, 2003
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No, people are blaming him because he's been the only consistent part of the no-consistent goaltending for his entire tenure.

He needs to be fired, because they have to do something new.


You take a flyer on a guy making less than $1M, you can carry 3 for a bit, then waive one who doesn't work out.


People just think they know everything when it comes to everything when it comes to coaching, trading and everything else when it comes to hockey. Unless you are in the room you have no idea what is going on
 
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Jimmi McJenkins

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Jan 12, 2006
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The dude has 8 career games in the NHL. You can’t deal Skinner away now for someone as unproven as that.


Ingram has worse numbers than Skinner this year and worse career numbers.

What are we doing here?
Because I think, behind a quality defense, he could get his level of play from a year ago back.

People just think they know everything when it comes to everything when it comes to coaching, trading and everything else when it comes to hockey. Unless you are in the room you have no idea what is going on
No, people can see the glaring problem that has been continual for the entire tenure of a coach who seems to get no scrutiny and seems to have provided little. Like he also works with Tristian Jarry so ...

It's time for him to no longer part of the organization, because they need to do something different, because the goaltending hasn't been good enough overall during his entire time here.
 

Soundwave

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Mar 1, 2007
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People just think they know everything when it comes to everything when it comes to coaching, trading and everything else when it comes to hockey. Unless you are in the room you have no idea what is going on

If your goaltending isn't a strength, I think you should just auto fire your coach every 5 years anyway. Coaches are hired to be fired, the only loyalty should be to someone who is exceptional at their job and that means exception results.
 

brentashton

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Jan 21, 2018
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The dude has 8 career games in the NHL. You can’t deal Skinner away now for someone as unproven as that.


Ingram has worse numbers than Skinner this year and worse career numbers.

What are we doing here?
Grasping at straws and getting worse (if that’s even possible) if we do that type of goalie trade.
 

Soundwave

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Grasping at straws and getting worse (if that’s even possible) if we do that type of goalie trade.

Not really. Even if you pay some peanuts for Ingram at 50% say, who has been bad this year, he has had good numbers (considering the team) the previous two years.

If nothing else is available I'd at least take the shot at least you have a 3rd option.
 
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brentashton

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Jan 21, 2018
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Not really. Even if you pay some peanuts for Ingram at 50% say, who has been bad this year, he has had good numbers (considering the team) the previous two years.

If nothing else is available I'd at least take the shot at least you have a 3rd option.
Fill yer boots.
 

Jimmi McJenkins

Sometimes miracles
Jan 12, 2006
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Fill yer boots.
I mean he's a bit over the top with Skinner, but the concern is huge, because this team is very good, plays very good defense, but can't seem to play level.

Every team makes mistake, but not all those mistakes end up in their net each time. It's something to be examined seriously.
 
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brentashton

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I mean he's a bit over the top with Skinner, but the concern is huge, because this team is very good, plays very good defense, but can't seem to play level.

Every team makes mistake, but not all those mistakes end up in their net each time. It's something to be examined seriously.
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GhostfaceWu

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Feb 11, 2015
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They're sitting one point out of a playoff spot right now with the mandate to make the playoffs. Throwing in the towel this early would cost Yzerman his job. At best we're hoping for months down the line and acquiring a goalie late into the season makes no sense.
Go after Lyon instead
 

belair

Win it for Ben!
Apr 9, 2010
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I wonder if we have interest in Scott Mayfield? He’d be a decent right handed top 4
32, coming off a bad season cut short by a broken ankle and $3.5m for another six seasons. That's a big ticket for a guy that's averaging just over 18 minutes a night and likely not hitting another level offensively.

Needs more of a puck transporter as a favorable partner and he's prone to DZ turnovers and untimely penalties. Sounds like a pricier Desharnais.
 

russ99

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You can look up advanced metrics for yourself, it's clear you don't know anything about them and are operating on a POV that's about 14 months out of date.
Rather than operating on a POV that’s 7+ years old, which is when the Oiloblogosphere invented advanced stats. Even the most savvy math people admit current metrics don’t tell the whole story, only tell the story the best way that math can today.

Like that thing that came out in preseason where the Oilers stats team are looking for context that may not appear in just the pure numbers.

And the outright refusal to come up with new metrics like sortie time, coverage metrics, defender effect on goals and saves, or info from that NHL goal simulation that can be mined and yet stick to shots (and shot derived metrics) like they’re Jesus is what frustrates me the most.
 

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