Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Savoie Gets an Audition With the Trade Deadline Looming

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Henrique was an overpay but he had been relatively productive. Your proposals are outright fleecings for the other teams.

lolz, ok then, Again anytime you want to get over yourself, it will save time and surprise.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

It was a good trade by Holland.
But he still sucked as a GM.

Your premature whining was still epic. Keep it up, maybe it can work again this deadline!

 

[North]

lolz, ok then, Again anytime you want to get over yourself, it will save time and surprise.

I’m not the one who’s full of themselves.

The fact you’re so certain that your proposals are reasonable and argue vociferously for them indicates perhaps it’s you who needs to get over yourself.

 

[foshizzle]

I mean sure, he can also give up softies like the best of them.

Sure, just like last year.

Last year had a historical performances by Bouchard and McDavid. A historically good PK, Historicall PP. They won round 2 being the only team in history to overcome .833% goaltending. Unless all that is going to happen again- an early exit is a very possible outcome

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Last year had a historical performances by Bouchard and McDavid. A historically good PK, Historicall PP. They won round 2 being the only team in history to overcome .833% goaltending. Unless all that is going to happen again- an early exit is a very possible outcome

Sure, which is why they lost in the 2nd round. He has problem, but like things still happened last year, whether you like it or not.

 

[McAsuno]

Your premature whining was still epic. Keep it up, maybe it can work again this deadline!

I'm pretty much on the chilling side until the trade deadline is officially over. No real comment on Bowman yet. If we don't get a new goalie, then yes, I'd happily 'whine' knowing we're going into the post season with two horrible ass goalies.

Me whining during that time doesn't change that Ken Holland was a poor GM.
Outside of Ekholm, was there really much good things Holland did? He's also the same idiot who ignored people in the organization that told him to re-sign both Holloway/Broberg before they could get offer sheeted.

 

[McTonyBrar]

Top 6 forward is WAY more important than a defensemen at this time.

If Klingberg doesn't work out Stetcher is good enough, but our top 6 wingers are not good enough.

Dude our goaltending and defence is our #1 Priority

 

[McDoused]

Man, it's really gone Joe Exotic/Carol Baskin level complaining on here

 

[McAsuno]

You're hilarious. Who cares about Edmonton media - take their opinions with a heap of salt. Continuing whining about it is funny stuff. You give them far too much credit. Keep crying about deadline stuff like the last time when it netted this team Ekholm because the team didn't panic move their core assets. We need your best stuff this year.

Yep, that's why their opinions didn't mess with the likes of Eberle, Hall, Yamamoto, Puljujarvi, Petry, Koskinen, and etc. Weird how Connor himself had to take a moment to talk to Spec after a presser after him trashing on the players couple years ago.

You're yapping about me 'crying' about deadline stuff when I haven't said anything yet other than being neutral on Bowman until this year's deadline officially passes makes no sense either. So once again, cut out your narrative bullshit while I'm still being civilized with you, or I'd just send you happily to the ignore list.

 

[McJadeddog]

Last year had a historical performances by Bouchard and McDavid. A historically good PK, Historicall PP. They won round 2 being the only team in history to overcome .833% goaltending. Unless all that is going to happen again- an early exit is a very possible outcome

Exactly. People keep trotting out the argument "well we almost won the cup last year with the same goaltending" as if its some sort of good argument. Expecting all the other cards to fall like the did last year is hilariously incorrect. The fact that we didn't win, even with all those things going our way, is pretty bonkers actually.

Our specialty teams are a LOT worse this year, and Bouchard is significantly worse as well. In addition, our secondary scoring outside of McDrai is significantly down from last year as well. This is a worse team right now than we were last year, and by quite a bit as well. We are going to need significantly better goaltending to even win a couple rounds, let alone the conference or the stanley. This team, as built, with our current tending, is a first or second round exit.

 

[McAsuno]

Exactly. People keep trotting out the argument "well we almost won the cup last year with the same goaltending" as if its some sort of good argument. Expecting all the other cards to fall like the did last year is hilariously incorrect. The fact that we didn't win, even with all those things going our way, is pretty bonkers actually.

Our specialty teams are a LOT worse this year, and Bouchard is significantly worse as well. In addition, our secondary scoring outside of McDrai is significantly down from last year as well. This is a worse team right now than we were last year, and by quite a bit as well. We are going to need significantly better goaltending to even win a couple rounds, let alone the conference or the stanley. This team, as built, with our current tending, is a first or second round exit.

Shore up the goalie as a main priority and I would say that helps a lot of the issues. The team shouldn't have to score 3+ goals every game just to win because our current goalies causes the team to chase the game.

 

[Soundwave]

Last year had a historical performances by Bouchard and McDavid. A historically good PK, Historicall PP. They won round 2 being the only team in history to overcome .833% goaltending. Unless all that is going to happen again- an early exit is a very possible outcome

The other thing is you're likely not going to get the same exact match ups, you have to flush the previous playoffs and not just cling to that as the be all/end all.

Last playoffs, it wasn't an easy path, but Skinner especially was f***ing fortunate that he didn't have to play against a MacKinnon or even Eichel level talent until the Finals.

Jason Robertson is OK, but he ain't no MacKinnon or Eichel, not even close. In the Vancouver series, Petterson is a fraud shrinking violent, but JT Miller is alright, nowhere close to a MacK, Skinner almost cost us the series even against just there.

If we have to play a Vegas or Colorado this time around we are likely in considerable danger because I don't think Skinner or Pickard are up for the challenge of facing higher tier forwards like that for multiple games in a row. Skinner is gonna get eaten alive, that last Colorado game could be a very unfortunate preview.

You gotta have another gear in your arsenal to go up against players like that as a goalie. Stu and Picks don't have it.

 

[McAsuno]

The other thing is you're likely not going to get the same exact match ups, you have to flush the previous playoffs and not just cling to that as the be all/end all.

Last playoffs, it wasn't an easy path, but Skinner especially was f***ing fortunate that he didn't have to play against a MacKinnon or even Eichel level talent until the Finals.

Jason Robertson is OK, but he ain't no MacKinnon or Eichel, not even close. In the Vancouver series, Petterson is a fraud shrinking violent, but JT Miller is alright, nowhere close to a MacK, Skinner almost cost us the series even against just there.

If we have to play a Vegas or Colorado this time around we are likely in considerable danger because I don't think Skinner or Pickard are up for the challenge of facing higher tier forwards like that for multiple games in a row. Skinner is gonna get eaten alive, that last Colorado game could be a very unfortunate preview.

You gotta have another gear in your arsenal to go up against players like that as a goalie. Stu and Picks don't have it.

In regards to Robo, he even scored a hatty in that game against Skinner lol. Was gross having to watch Skinner sink that game when the Oilers were having the momentum.
Simply can't rely on these two sieves this year especially with McDavid and Bouchard's new contract looming soon while Drai's new contract will start.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

Yep, that's why their opinions didn't mess with the likes of Eberle, Hall, Yamamoto, Puljujarvi, Petry, Koskinen, and etc. Weird how Connor himself had to take a moment to talk to Spec after a presser after him trashing on the players couple years ago.

You're yapping about me 'crying' about deadline stuff when I haven't said anything yet other than being neutral on Bowman until this year's deadline officially passes makes no sense either. So once again, cut out your narrative bullshit while I'm still being civilized with you, or I'd just send you happily to the ignore list.

Big deal, Connor talked to a rights holder beat writer. We don't have access to the daily media interactions including private coach sessions with rights holders. Spector goes up and down daily like Holland's toilet seat. Take it with a block of salt. If it triggers you, avoid it. News today bird cage fodder tomorrow.

Bowman's deadline began with this summer's decision. It's a defining one made harder that the summer big money decisions have largely not worked. Complaining about this team's best trade deadline trade since the 80's is funny stuff. You were non-stop and had the team been dumb enough to follow your premature panic it would have missed out on a cornerstone defender.

 

[Soundwave]

In regards to Robo, he even scored a hatty in that game against Skinner lol. Was gross having to watch Skinner sink that game when the Oilers were having the momentum.

Yeah. Honestly right now, this very minute I don't think we have a roster that's beating Colorado or Vegas in a 7 game series if we draw that.

Skinner or Pickard will end up getting exposed, our D system is good but it's not good enough to guys like MacKinnon and Eichel off a score sheet. MacK and Eichel and Makar are not Jason Robertson or JT Miller or whoever the f*** LA's best forward is (lol). It's a much different task to win a series against players of that tier when you have a liability in net.

 

[Lay Z Boy GM]

Alright well I’m 99% LT still posts here and I could guess his username lol

I’ve only heard one other person bring up Hellebuycks playoff performance as if that’s a reason to never pursue ANY goalie.

I always liked LT but man, it’s like a friend trying to convince you flat earth is real. Like bro.. no.. please.

 

[soothsayer]

Alright well I’m 99% LT still posts here and I could guess his username lol

I’ve only heard one other person bring up Hellebuycks playoff performance as if that’s a reason to never pursue ANY goalie.

I always liked LT but man, it’s like a friend trying to convince you flat earth is real. Like bro.. no.. please.

Does it start with a D and end with rivesaitl?

 

[McAsuno]

Yeah. Honestly right now, this very minute I don't think we have a roster that's beating Colorado or Vegas in a 7 game series if we draw that.

Skinner or Pickard will end up getting exposed, our D system is good but it's not good enough to guys like MacKinnon and Eichel off a score sheet. MacK and Eichel and Makar are not Jason Robertson or JT Miller or whoever the f*** LA's best forward is (lol). It's a much different task to win a series against players of that tier when you have a liability in net.

If they at least figure out the goaltending part, that would help. I'm not gonna say the likes of Gibson or Vejmelka will be a brick wall and turn into VGK's Adin Hill 2.0 leading to a cup but it would be nice knowing you won't always have your heartbeat beating frantically every time a puck is going to the net.

 

[NeverForget06]

Obviously your post is a bit hyperbolic, but I actually don't think asking for:

- A 1B goalie
- A #4 RD, and
- A 2nd line winger

Is really that outrageous. We've got assets and(assuming Kane stays on IR) cap space. none of those things are especially rare and they don't all need to be game changers on their own.

Agreed - we have two of the greatest players in the game in their prime, who came as close as you can to winning it last year without actually doing it.

Why should we not be willing to part with an unprecedented amount of assets to put them over the top?

This organization should be as far as they can be into win now mode

 

[foshizzle]

Sure, which is why they lost in the 2nd round. He has problem, but like things still happened last year, whether you like it or not.

What?

 

[Soundwave]

If they at least figure out the goaltending part, that would help. I'm not gonna say the likes of Gibson or Vejmelka will be a brick wall and turn into VGK's Adin Hill 2.0 leading to a cup but it would be nice knowing you won't always have your heartbeat beating frantically every time a puck is going to the net.

If we could get like even .906-.910 goaltending in a playoff run with the defensive system we have with Knob, that would pretty much spell the difference between a Cup and no Cup. That's more than enough to tip a couple of series' let alone one.

Adin Hill has been a ridiculous .930+ in the last two playoffs, we'd never lose with that.

 

[Echodek]

I have a horrible feeling management has already decided to sacrifice our postseason to address the goaltending in the summer.

 

[bobbythebrain]

Alright well I’m 99% LT still posts here and I could guess his username lol

I’ve only heard one other person bring up Hellebuycks playoff performance as if that’s a reason to never pursue ANY goalie.

I always liked LT but man, it’s like a friend trying to convince you flat earth is real. Like bro.. no.. please.

Name a goalie that came it at a deadline and turned the team around?

You do realize that goalies typically perform worse their 1st year on a new team?

Expecting a TDL acquisition goalie to become a game changer is HIGHLY unlikely

 

[McAsuno]

If we could get like even .906-.910 goaltending in a playoff run with the defensive system we have with Knob, that would pretty much spell the difference between a Cup and no Cup. That's more than enough to tip a couple of series' let alone one.

Adin Hill has been a ridiculous .930+ in the last two playoffs, we'd never lose with that.

It shouldn't be that hard, seriously. It's just frustrating knowing this club allows the fewest high danger attempts per 60, but our two current goalies are playing at a rec men's club level.

 

[soothsayer]

Name a goalie that came it at a deadline and turned the team around?

You do realize that goalies typically perform worse their 1st year on a new team?

Expecting a TDL acquisition goalie to become a game changer is HIGHLY unlikely