Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Post Draft, Pre Free Agent Frenzy

[Echodek]

Not expecting the Oilers to do much if anything at all. Just try and tidy up their free agents and that’s about it.

 

[foshizzle]

He was, no exaggeration, the worst possible goalie for us to sign that offseason based on analytics profile and I said as much the weeks leading up to him hitting free agency. Did well into low/medium danger shots and had decent puck freeze stats, near the worst in the league for high danger shots, bad goals saved above expected, bad consistency, bad against tips/deflections. Then he came here and somehow couldn't stop low danger shots or freeze pucks either (probably Dustin Schwartz effect). As for the goalie department thing, we could literally hire the Rangers and Islanders staff combined and it still wouldn't matter b/c Dustin would find a way to ruin them anyway.

Great post

Not expecting the Oilers to do much if anything at all. Just try and tidy up their free agents and that’s about it.

They need a top 4 d man and top 6 winger for Draisaitl. These are critical needs

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Offer him the Ekholm rehab program. I think there’s good potential with him still

And he gets to play with former teammate Bouchard and another young Swedish stud in the making in Broberg.

 

[Fourier]

Boqvist could be a nice buy low candidate.

I agree. If they could convince him to come for under $2M to resurrect his value that would be great.

 

[oil Leaks]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1807456464069374098

 

[McShogun99]

Hockey gods…oilers fans endured, packed the arena when the team sucked…for 10 years and Florida wins. Edmonton and its fans deserved this cup

There's got to be almost 300 people in that crowd. I've seen more turn out to a WNBA parade.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

I agree. If they could convince him to come for under $2M to resurrect his value that would be great.

Another puck mover with some offense, would help the defense be more of threat top to bottom

 

[McShogun99]

I remember being so excited when we signed Campbell. Oh how naive I was.

So was I, even though I thought it was to much for him. I still think he should have gotten a chance under Knob but Skinner has proven he's a starter and you don't need a 5 million dollar backup.

 

[nabob]

Because retention will end sooner. Who says it would be 2.5M? This season they have Brown’s bonus, Perry’s bonus, Neal’s buyout, and now Campbell’s buyout. That’s what 7M? That’s a significant player. That’s just a bad way to do business. All this is my opinion, of course. You are entitled to yours.

Yes it would be great if every move the team made worked out perfectly.

I think everyone agrees with that opinion

If you trade with retention then you still have all those other things but are 99% likely spending more on Campbell

 

[foshizzle]

There's got to be almost 300 people in that crowd. I've seen more turn out to a WNBA parade.

I’ve seen more turn out for my son’s kindergarten graduation

 

[McShogun99]

Friedman said there were rumours Kane was asked to waive.

I think Kane likes it here. Doesn't he spend his off seasons in Edmonton now? If Kane is healthy to start the year he'll be huge for us.

 

[Lay Z Boy GM]

In an alternate universe Marky accepted our UFA offer, and bombed in playoffs, and we bought him out to try again by signing Campbell

Our goalie pro scouting needs to be way better. Hopefully the last inconsistent headcase we go all in on. We tried to go all in on 2 of them in the last 5 years.

I wonder how much is coaching. Bobrovsky is a bit of a head case and I wonder how he would have looked here. Probably would have fallen into one of his slumps and maybe struggled to ever get out of it. Or maybe not.

Glad Campbell is gone, I really didn’t want to sign the guy after such a short sample size as a starter and half of their sample was a disaster. Very foolish signing, of course I hoped it would work out but holy smokes it was worse than I thought.

 

[Broberg Speed]

I agree. If they could convince him to come for under $2M to resurrect his value that would be great.

He was an outstanding junior player and he'd be keeping that London Knights pipeline flowing. Mark Hunter...

Doubtful

72% logic

 

[oil Leaks]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1807463762187690476

 

[syz]

I think Kane likes it here. Doesn't he spend his off seasons in Edmonton now? If Kane is healthy to start the year he'll be huge for us.

Kane hasn't been healthy for like 18 months so that's a big "if."

 

[foshizzle]

Yes it would be great if every move the team made worked out perfectly.

I think everyone agrees with that opinion

If you trade with retention then you still have all those other things but are 99% likely spending more on Campbell

No one is saying every move. How about just the big ones? With analytics and scouting combined- big dollar pays need to work out every time. If there is even a little shadow of doubt- don’t invest.

 

[oXo Cube]

There were red flags with Campbell from day 0. Those discussions are all out there.

That said, I also think it would be unfair not to acknowledge that he turned out to be somehow even worse than his biggest detractors thought he might be.

 

[alphahelix]

There were red flags with Campbell from day 0. Those discussions are all out there.

That said, I also think it would be unfair not to acknowledge that he turned out to be somehow even worse than his biggest detractors thought he might be.

Its true, I was against it from the get go but even I said something like “maybe if we are out on the other Gs and can get him to 4 x 4.75 it’d be alright” . Woulda been an easier buyout I guess but yeesh.

 

[foshizzle]

A lot of potential buy low candidates. This is how Florida built their team. We just need to add finishing touches.

 

[Broberg Speed]

Kane hasn't been healthy for like 18 months so that's a big "if."

hopefully someday the story will come out why he wasn't placed on LTIR

that lack of a move likely cost us a championship

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

Not one of these other teams are supposed to be contenders.

Signing Hyman and trading for Ekholm is more than offset by this buyout and the Nurse contract.

Its like bringing the most 2 beautiful gifts to someone’s wedding and getting a standing ovation but then getting drunk, falling into the wedding cake, throwing up in the punch bowl, taking your pants off and then at the mike making a slurred joke about how the groom was seen kissing the maid of honour in the hallway and how hot the bride is, right before leaving and crashing his car into the wedding limo, ruining the entire day.

Thanks Holland. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

 

[Hollywood55]

Lmao you remember this?

https://x.com/i/web/status/1807446241594298533

 

[Hemsky4pm2]

It is stunning that Campbell was passable in Toronto for a couple of seasons. He seems like an athletic AHL goalie. Best of luck to him, and big congrats to him and his agent for getting about 20M before taxes for, what, 1.1 seasons of sub par NHL goaltending? Set for life with generational wealth.

 

[Sra1974]

At the end of the day we are spending less on goaltending then we did last year and we have the same 2 nhl goalies.

Yes, and this move basically pays for the brown bonus with some left over.

 

[bellagiobob]

Dead cap isn’t an investment when it lowers your overall cap space. Dead cap is literally a punishment for poor management. Calling it an investment is like saying your Tesla stock is down 30% so you’re jumping ship and calling your stop loss an investment. Your overall portfolio is down. You lost money. Sure you freed up some money to buy other stock- but you’re buying power is way less.

Anyways- he’s being bought out- no point discussing further

In both examples, the investment is now a sunken cost. You can lament on how and why it became a poor investment, but then you move on from that and try and maximize your return with what remains of that asset. In the case of Campbell, it’s going to cost you cap space in both of the options, you just have to decide which one fits into your teams overall cap space situation year to year. The Oilers are banking on being competitive this year, another win it all year, and need every dollar of cap space they can muster. A few years down the line when the cap should continue to rise, and we no longer have other dead cap space, the Campbell dead cap hit won’t be as burdensome as his full cap hit would be this year.