Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Post Draft, Pre Free Agent Frenzy

[GOilers88]

Written by someone that doesn't know anything about hockey.

I've been seeing it on HF too. Drai took a big discount, so he deserves a massive raise.

 

[Canovin]

It does, Minny isn't moving Brodin, and you have to re-sign the important players on the team still.

Do the Isles consider moving Pulock I wonder.

I'm not sure. It's just a thought. I'm guessing both players are not untouchable

 

[K1984]

I've been seeing it on HF too. Drai took a big discount, so he deserves a massive raise.

Most of HF doesn't know anything about hockey either.

When he signed that deal everyone laughed about it being an overpay and even people here were pissed (Barkov, a comparable at the time signed a ~$6M AAV deal about a month before). It only became a discount after he outperformed it starting in 18-19.

Dumb people are framing it like he did us a solid, he actually signed a great deal for himself at the time, just shot way above everyone's expectations (and maybe even his own) afterwards.

 

[McShogun99]

Written by someone that doesn't know anything about hockey.

Isn't SI the magazine that's known for putting big girls in bikini's then complain that no one is buying the magazine anymore?

 

[Oilhawks]

Most of HF doesn't know anything about hockey either.

When he signed that deal everyone laughed about it being an overpay and even people here were pissed (Barkov, a comparable at the time signed a ~$6M AAV deal about a month before). It only became a discount after he outperformed it starting in 18-19.

Dumb people are framing it like he did us a solid, he actually signed a great deal for himself at the time, just shot way above everyone's expectations (and maybe even his own) afterwards.

An understated point. A quick venture onto the mains confirms that quite readily.

Basically everything they cling to is emotionally-driven fanboy nonsense

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

The perfect situation for the Oilers is finding a way to trade Nurse for Parayko

I wonder if the Oilers retained a bit, would that get the Blues to bite. I also wonder if Nurse would waive for STL.

 

[Oilhawks]

Isn't SI the magazine that's known for putting big girls in bikini's then complain that no one is buying the magazine anymore?

Yes.

 

[TheNumber4]

I listened to that DFO podcast with him and Serevalli for the first time the other day. It was hilarious.

Gregor: "Like who even is the better player between Stamkos and Guentzel?"

*10 seconds of silence*

Serevalli: "Yeah...definitely Guentzel..."

Lol

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Isn't SI the magazine that's known for putting big girls in bikini's then complain that no one is buying the magazine anymore?

No, SI was sold to a hedge fund, so it's less a sports media magazine anymore and now just a thing some rich guys are gutting.

 

[Canovin]

The perfect situation for the Oilers is finding a way to trade Nurse for Parayko

I wonder if the Oilers retained a bit, would that get the Blues to bite. I also wonder if Nurse would waive for STL.

3 way deal. I don't see Nurse waiving to St. Louis. He wants a shot at the cup

Edmonton - Parayko
NYR - Nurse
St. Louis - Trouba

Add picks and prospects or retain where it's needed

 

[Fourier]

I think their path forward really comes down to Kane’s injury and what recovery times look like. If Kane is willing and they can put off any surgeries until just before the season to coordinate a return with the end of the regular season, that’s probably the best option.

But I think it would be smart to look into trading Ceci for the space to cover what they’re over and the Broberg/Holloway signings and if possible keep Kane off ltir to begin the season to try and accrue cap space. This way you are accruing cap for the deadline and if a sudden need for cap arises you can put Kane on ltir.

@Fourier would likely know what their best option is. But would that be a possibility? If they trade Ceci and can be under the cap without putting Kane on ltir could they accrue cap space throughout the year? And also if for whatever reason they find themselves with a need for cap space can they retroactively or just moving forward put Kane on ltir at that point and if they did so would that wipe out any cap space they had accrued to that point?

Correct me if I'm wrong, It comes down to if the LTIR puts you over the cap or not. So if we trade Ceci, and we are under the cap with or without Kane on LTIR, we can accrue available cap space.

If they were to trade Ceci and end up under the cap even with Kane's salary included they would be able to accrue cap space. If Kane was on IR and they needed to use LTIR they could simply do so retroactively and the accrued space would still be there.

Wrt to the bolded. Technically if they were under the cap they would not have Kane on LTIR but rather just regular IR. But yes, you are correct.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

3 way deal. I don't see Nurse waiving to St. Louis. He wants a shot at the cup

Edmonton - Parayko
NYR - Nurse
St. Louis - Trouba

Add picks and prospects or retain where it's needed

I wonder if this might work, great idea.

 

[WaitingForUser]

I've been seeing it on HF too. Drai took a big discount, so he deserves a massive raise.

Yeah he didn’t take a discount at the time. He took a fair value deal. He absolutely outplayed his contract and then some and does indeed deserve a raise as he has been severely under paid for 6 of the 7 years of his 8 year deal though.

 

[McJadeddog]

Most of HF doesn't know anything about hockey either.

When he signed that deal everyone laughed about it being an overpay and even people here were pissed (Barkov, a comparable at the time signed a ~$6M AAV deal about a month before). It only became a discount after he outperformed it starting in 18-19.

Dumb people are framing it like he did us a solid, he actually signed a great deal for himself at the time, just shot way above everyone's expectations (and maybe even his own) afterwards.

I actually still argue that at the time, it was an overpay and had a pretty heavy amount of risk associated to it on the team side. It ended up being a great deal for the team in the end, but that is somewhat revisionist history IMO.

 

[SupremeTeam16]

If they were to trade Ceci and end up under the cap even with Kane's salary included they would be able to accrue cap space. If Kane was on IR and they needed to use LTIR they could simply do so retroactively and the accrued space would still be there.

Wrt to the bolded. Technically if they were under the cap they would not have Kane on LTIR but rather just regular IR. But yes, you are correct.

So I just did some math, with Kane on the roster, Broberg and Holloway at 1M each, Lavoie at 850k, Stetcher and Kemp up and Perry, Ryan and Josh Brown sent down. That is a 22 man roster including Kane and we have about 220k in cap space. But with Kane on IR we are really running with 12 F and 7D so with Kane only on IR would we be able to bring up another F without their cap hit counting? So we would have an extra F but still have that 220K accruing?

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

3 way deal. I don't see Nurse waiving to St. Louis. He wants a shot at the cup

Edmonton - Parayko
NYR - Nurse
St. Louis - Trouba

Add picks and prospects or retain where it's needed

Good Fantasy trade. But all three players have variations of no-trade. Two of the three teams would like to dump salary/create cap space not take on more (Rangers); re-distribute cap from defense to forward (St. Louis); and no indication the Oilers are prioritizing Nurse to move.

Fully agree though that Parayko would be a dream top 4 RD finishing piece for the Oilers Cup window team. Previously on record with willingness to consider waiving for his hometown.

 

[ilovetheshowlost]

Who might be available at the deadline if we leave upgrading our defense until then?

Maybe a guy like Larsson would come back if Seattle is out of the race? Would only be a couple months in Edmonton, perhaps that brief reunion would be something he'd consider

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

I've been seeing it on HF too. Drai took a big discount, so he deserves a massive raise.

Lol everyone outside of Edmonton said he was overpaid when he signed his contract. Now he took a discount?

 

[oXo Cube]

Lol everyone outside of Edmonton said he was overpaid when he signed his contract. Now he took a discount?

Hell, most people IN Edmonton said he was overpaid, and honestly they were right. Leon obviously exploded after he signed his current contract but he's a straight up pioneer for the approach Montreal took the other day with Slafkovsky.

He does deserve a massive raise though that part is hard to argue.

 

[oobga]

Imagine moving out Ceci and then learning that Nurse is the real weak link

Think almost everyone knows, but we can't do anything about it. NMC, buyout proof, top bro.

 

[McTonyBrar]

Kane is a rare player that actually has stories about being called out of shape lol

KHL coach says Evander Kane is out of shape

Another bad sign in a rocky Winnipeg Jets offseason.

www.nbcsports.com

In any case, I'm gonna take time to try to find these quotes from Stauffer and Gregor last week where people said that those guys said he was out of shape in camp this year, using their recorded shows. I never heard it myself.

You actually are making yourself look like an idiot. If you enjoy dishonouring yourself, please continue. It's quite fun seeing you embarass yourself

 

[McTonyBrar]

I can't do Gregor. I've tried for years, can't do it. Doubles down on bad takes all the time.

I shook my head listening to his show so many times I had to stop since I was getting motion sickness. Ceci being better than Tanev was the last straw

Oilers are over the cap now while the Flames currently have the most cap space in the NHL. Tale of two cities.

I just love how they tried so hard to get Arvidsson and Skinner too and failed. I wonder if they tried for Henrique. Hell, Jon Cooper from TB actually called him to convince him to go there and Henrique literally stuck the finger at him over the phone to come to "DEADMONTON". I love what's happening with us now

 

[oobga]

You actually are making yourself look like an idiot. If you enjoy dishonouring yourself, please continue. It's quite fun seeing you embarass yourself

Glad to entertain some fan Bois.

 

[McTonyBrar]

Written by someone that doesn't know anything about hockey.

I've never heard of that website or that guys name in my life. Just a troll trying to stir up trouble AKA make themselves relevant. I trust JJ

 

[CornKicker]

Isn't SI the magazine that's known for putting big girls in bikini's then complain that no one is buying the magazine anymore?

yes, but i think they realized what they did pandering to a demographic that wouldnt never buy anything anyway and reverted back to normal times.....hence the oilers flasher getting a spread