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[Jimmi McJenkins]

Yep, Bouchard is going to be crazy expensive. I think people should be prepared for $10m/yr+ with the cap jump. Might be better to bridge him for a few years then decide on what to do with him thereafter. The Oilers cup window is likely over by then anyway.

I mean it's not, it's just not an ideal spot. Who knows.

 

[Heavy Dee]

Yep, Bouchard is going to be crazy expensive. I think people should be prepared for $10m/yr+ with the cap jump. Might be better to bridge him for a few years then decide on what to do with him thereafter. The Oilers cup window is likely over by then anyway.

Trade him then. Walman can run the PP. Bouchard would fetch a ton.

 

[Canovin]

Yep, Bouchard is going to be crazy expensive. I think people should be prepared for $10m/yr+ with the cap jump. Might be better to bridge him for a few years then decide on what to do with him thereafter. The Oilers cup window is likely over by then anyway.

8 x 2 for Bouchard. The cap will be 110M+ when his deal is up. Just enough money to pay him 10M+ and enough picks to offersheet Dvorsky or Snuggerud to extend the cup window

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Trade him then. Walman can run the PP. Bouchard would fetch a ton.

Only worth it if they get a Sorokin or someone at that level in a deal.

 

[PitkanensGitch]

Yep, Bouchard is going to be crazy expensive. I think people should be prepared for $10m/yr+ with the cap jump. Might be better to bridge him for a few years then decide on what to do with him thereafter. The Oilers cup window is likely over by then anyway.

Not sure about that. Chychrun is an insanely good player...finally healthy and dominating the game. Can't imagine Bouch goes for higher, but he is younger so...guess we'll see. Either way, like you said and I've been saying..the Cup window is slim.

 

[Canovin]

Only worth it if they get a Sorokin or someone at that level in a deal.

Bouchard+Stuart for Sorokin and Pulock.

Frederic(4)-McDavid(12.5)-Hyman(5.5)
Kane(5.125)-Drai(14)-Savoie(1)
Pods(1)-RNH(5.125)-Perry(1)
x(1)-Rico(3)-x(1)
x(1)

Ekholm(6)-Pulock(6)
Nurse(9.25)-Walman(3.4)
Kulak(2.7)-x(1)
x(1)

Sorokin(8)
Pickard(1)
Deadweight(2.3)

95.9M

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Bouchard+Stuart for Sorokin and Pulock.

Frederic(4)-McDavid(12.5)-Hyman(5.5)
Kane(5.125)-Drai(14)-Savoie(1)
Pods(1)-RNH(5.125)-Perry(1)
x(1)-Rico(3)-x(1)
x(1)

Ekholm(6)-Pulock(6)
Nurse(9.25)-Walman(3.4)
Kulak(2.7)-x(1)
x(1)

Sorokin(8)
Pickard(1)
Deadweight(2.3)

95.9M

I have a TON of time for exploring this. Losing Bouchard would be massive, make no mistake, but getting an elite-ish goaltender would really make this team dangerous.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Not sure about that. Chychrun is an insanely good player...finally healthy and dominating the game. Can't imagine Bouch goes for higher, but he is younger so...guess we'll see. Either way, like you said and I've been saying..the Cup window is slim.

Yeah, Chychrun is having a solid year and is a good player (good for him getting paid, but he doesn't come close to impacting the game the way Bouchard does.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

9 mill for Chychrun is crazy.

 

[Soundwave]

Yeah, Chychrun is having a solid year and is a good player (good for him getting paid, but he doesn't come close to impacting the game the way Bouchard does.

To be honest a big chunk of Bouchard's points are gravy from the PP, at least probably 10 of his points are gravy PP assists because he plays with McDavid and Draisaitl. Subtract 10 points from his point total and compare to Chychrun and welp.

 

[Soundwave]

9 mill for Chychrun is crazy.

It's actually not bad for us. It basically locks Bouchard in at 8 mill if not lower on a bridge option for us.

Cap is going way up in the coming years.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

It's actually not bad for us. It basically locks Bouchard in at 8 mill if not lower on a bridge option for us.

Cap is going way up in the coming years.

I don’t agree. Bouchards agent is licking his lips looking at that contract.

 

[Soundwave]

I don’t agree. Bouchards agent is licking his lips looking at that contract.

He was always gonna get 10+ on a long term deal, people thinking some how it would be lower than that long term have no idea how the salary cap works. The cap is massively rising and Nurse already gets 9.25 on a deal signed when the cap was much lower.

9 for Chychrun is fair, he's having a better season than Bouchard in several respects (more goals, better plus minus, no McDavid/Drai to play with).

 

[Canovin]

9M is more of an indication of what Walman will get than Bouchard. I can see Walman getting 8M x 7 years

11M is where it get stupid for Bouchard as he's more of a McDrai/Ekholm merchant

 

[BarDownBobo]

To be honest a big chunk of Bouchard's points are gravy from the PP, at least probably 10 of his points are gravy PP assists because he plays with McDavid and Draisaitl. Subtract 10 points from his point total and compare to Chychrun and welp.

It’s a pretty worrisome stat to me that Bouchard only has 10 primary assists of his 42 total on the season, not a sign of a guy driving the offense from the back end.

 

[Soundwave]

It’s a pretty worrisome stat to me that Bouchard only has 10 primary assists of his 42 total on the season, not a sign of a guy driving the offense from the back end.

Exactly what the Oilers should point out to in contract negotiations. Chychrun is probably having the better season. A lot of Bouchard's points this year are gravy and then add on all the mistakes he's made this year.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

He was always gonna get 10+ on a long term deal, people thinking some how it would be lower than that long term have no idea how the salary cap works. The cap is massively rising and Nurse already gets 9.25 on a deal signed when the cap was much lower.

9 for Chychrun is fair, he's having a better season than Bouchard in several respects (more goals, better plus minus, no McDavid/Drai to play with).

One good full season and now he’s a 9 million dollar D?

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

To be honest a big chunk of Bouchard's points are gravy from the PP, at least probably 10 of his points are gravy PP assists because he plays with McDavid and Draisaitl. Subtract 10 points from his point total and compare to Chychrun and welp.

Sure, sounds good.

 

[Canovin]

One good full season and now he’s a 9 million dollar D?

To be fair, Bouchard would probably sink in those Arizona teams and arena

 

[Soundwave]

One good full season and now he’s a 9 million dollar D?

He had 14 goals the year prior too, dude scores a lot from the blue line.

9 million being some high water mark is meaningless anyway, the cap is going to $113.5 million in a couple of years from the 88 million it is today. That's like a 29% increase.

A 9 million contract under a $113.5 million cap is what a 6.35 million contract is today.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

He had 14 goals the year prior too, dude scores a lot from the blue line.

9 million being some high water mark is meaningless anyway, the cap is going to $113.5 million in a couple of years from the 88 million it is today. That's like a 29% increase.

A 9 million contract under a $113.5 million cap is what a 6.35 million contract is today.

7 ES goals and being minus a million is nothing to write home about

This line of thinking is exactly how teams get into trouble. It’s projected cap in 3 years, his contract is mostly based off this one great season and the Capitals are the PDO kings this year. It’s a recipe for disaster.

 

[McDNicks17]

I'm a big Chychrun fan, but signing a guy to a big contract while your team is on an insane PDO bender is a recipe for disaster.

Give that team the 5th ranked onSH% and they're seeing a 20% drop in goals scored this year. They're going to crash down harder than the Canucks did.

 

[Canovin]

I'm a big Chychrun fan, but signing a guy to a big contract while your team is on an insane PDO bender is a recipe for disaster.

Give that team the 5th ranked onSH% and they're seeing a 20% drop in goals scored this year. They're going to crash down harder than the Canucks did.

Caps got 14M to sign Mangiapane and 3 bottom 6 players. OV also leaving after next season. Lots of cap space.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Trade him then. Walman can run the PP. Bouchard would fetch a ton.

With this org we'd get a 2nd round pick out of it and Calgary, somehow, would be getting a 3rd.

jk aside this org wouldn't get anything much in value in trade and never does.

I want this org to be making deals about as much as I want Fat Stu Skinner playing the puck..

 

[Trafalgar Sadge Law]

That Chychrun deal is gonna turn into the Caps' version of the Nurse contract. Good player but he's more of a #2/3 guy who is having a career year riding a whopping 105 PDO, giving the illusion that he's much better than he actually is.